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Posted: 26-Jan-2006, 04:34 PM
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For almost three years, the conventional wisdom regarding Iraq WMD’s prior to our invasion was that Saddam never had them, we knew it, Bush lied, and we invaded anyway because we wanted their oil, or to establish military bases, or because George Bush is a meany, or because the Jews told us to, or…just because America is eeeevil and we like to throw our weight around just to remind the Europeans of that fact every once and while.

But something always bothered me about this conclusion, a nagging itch at the back of my mind. And that is the overwhelmingly belief by the world’s best intelligence agencies that Saddam did indeed have stockpiles of WMD in the six months leading up to the war. The French, the British, the Germans, The Israeli’s, the United Nations (UNSCOM and IAEA), not to mention the CIA, DIA, and most politicians here in this country. That’s quite a number of people to be dead wrong about such a huge issue.

Charles Duelfer, a former CIA and State Department expert who also took a turn as an inspector for UNSCOM, in his report on WMDs said:

The CIA’s chief weapons inspector said he cannot rule out the possibility that Iraqi weapons of mass destruction were secretly shipped to Syria before the March 2003 invasion, citing “sufficiently credible” evidence that WMDs may have been moved there.

Then there was a press conference given by Israel’s Ariel Sharon that was shown in December of 2002:

Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria.

Later the UN said, in a report:

U.N. satellite imagery experts have determined that material that could be used to make biological or chemical weapons and banned long-range missiles has been removed from 109 sites in Iraq.

OK. Taken individually, these stories mean nothing. Maybe.

Now we have a former Iraqi Air Force General who says that massive amounts of WMD was flown to Syria prior to the invasion:

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein’s air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, 'Saddam’s Secrets.'

“There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands,”


Next week, General Sada will meet with members of the Senate Armed Services committee. It should be interesting to see what might come out of that meeting although, don’t hold your breath for any bombshells. The last thing the White House wants at this point – even though it would permanently blunt some criticism about the war – is to make Syrian complicity in hiding Iraq WMD an issue.

But, then again, is anyone surprised?

At some weapons depots, we found stocks of empty chemical artillery shells and rocket warheads. A few yards away, we found drums labeled as pesticide which contained the two chemicals Iraq used in their binary formulation of VX. If the “pesticide” had been poured into the chemical shells, it would have been “weaponized”, and CIA would have called it a WMD. Since the nerve gas was found in a barrel next to the empty gas shells, we can’t prove that anyone ever considered using it as a weapon. We have to give Saddam the benefit of presumption of innocence. After all, doesn’t everyone keep their can of Raid in a camoflaged underground bunker?

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  Posted: 27-Jan-2006, 02:44 AM
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If there are WMDs, how come we've been scouring Iraq for almost four years and haven't found anything? You'd think that we would've accidentally found something by now. Who do we have looking for them? O.J. Simpson?


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QUOTE (MDF3530 @ 27-Jan-2006, 02:44 AM)
If there are WMDs, how come we've been scouring Iraq for almost four years and haven't found anything? You'd think that we would've accidentally found something by now. Who do we have looking for them? O.J. Simpson?

Brother Mike,

Sometimes I have to wonder if you are even paying attention? unsure.gif

Which part of the following from Brother S's post did you fail to read or comprehend? sleep1.gif

QUOTE (Shamalama @ 26-Jan-2006, 04:34 PM)
.....Charles Duelfer, a former CIA and State Department expert who also took a turn as an inspector for UNSCOM, in his report on WMDs said:

The CIA’s chief weapons inspector said he cannot rule out the possibility that Iraqi weapons of mass destruction were secretly shipped to Syria before the March 2003 invasion, citing “sufficiently credible” evidence that WMDs may have been moved there.

Then there was a press conference given by Israel’s Ariel Sharon that was shown in December of 2002:

Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria.

Later the UN said, in a report:

U.N. satellite imagery experts have determined that material that could be used to make biological or chemical weapons and banned long-range missiles has been removed from 109 sites in Iraq.

OK.  Taken individually, these stories mean nothing.  Maybe.

Now we have a former Iraqi Air Force General who says that massive amounts of WMD was flown to Syria prior to the invasion:

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein’s air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, 'Saddam’s Secrets.'

“There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands,”


Next week, General Sada will meet with members of the Senate Armed Services committee. It should be interesting to see what might come out of that meeting although, don’t hold your breath for any bombshells. The last thing the White House wants at this point – even though it would permanently blunt some criticism about the war – is to make Syrian complicity in hiding Iraq WMD an issue.

But, then again, is anyone surprised?

At some weapons depots, we found stocks of empty chemical artillery shells and rocket warheads. A few yards away, we found drums labeled as pesticide which contained the two chemicals Iraq used in their binary formulation of VX. If the “pesticide” had been poured into the chemical shells, it would have been “weaponized”, and CIA would have called it a WMD. Since the nerve gas was found in a barrel next to the empty gas shells, we can’t prove that anyone ever considered using it as a weapon. We have to give Saddam the benefit of presumption of innocence. After all, doesn’t everyone keep their can of Raid in a camoflaged underground bunker?....


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