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Posted by: Nova Scotian 22-Oct-2010, 12:14 PM
Juan Williams was fired from NPR. I don't agree with a lot of what Juan has to say but fire him? NO WAY! The NPR are hypocrits!!!!

Posted by: Patch 22-Oct-2010, 12:53 PM
I do not listen to public radio channels or for the most part public TV. They were stupid to fire him when they were about to start their fund raising and this also benefits the Tea Party movement. I suspect this will be in the news long after the elections are over.

It may also result in litigation as the "head" of NPR suggested publicly that Juan might need help with his mental health! As I recall, someone made that allegation on this politics forum not too long ago.

It certainly appears that the left has nothing more to run on.

Slàinte,    

Patch     


Posted by: MacEoghainn 22-Oct-2010, 05:01 PM
NPR is now just another Soros front organization.

Posted by: Dogshirt 22-Oct-2010, 06:17 PM
I don't always agree with the man, BUT, he is ALWAYS honest and forthcoming with his thoughts and opinions, and I CANNOT disagree with that!


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Posted by: MDF3530 22-Oct-2010, 07:18 PM
NPR was his employer. They have a personal conduct policy, saying that if you're going to represent them in public you will conduct yourself in a manner befitting them. They felt he failed to do that.

BTW, this was not his first scrap with NPR. They continually asked him not to refer to himself as "NPR Correspondent" during his other media appearances.

Posted by: MDF3530 23-Oct-2010, 12:39 AM
Per NPR's Ethics Code:

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10. In appearing on TV or other media including electronic Web-based forums, NPR journalists should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist. They should not participate in shows electronic forums, or blogs that encourage punditry and speculation rather than fact-based analysis.


http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/ethics/ethics_code.html#outside

Posted by: Patch 23-Oct-2010, 04:11 AM
Strange that they did not hold other employees to the same standard. They ruined their fund raising and at the beginning too. Unless Soros is willing to take over the expenses, this could be the beginning of the end of NPR. There appears to be a taste on both sides of the isle to cut federal funding and many states will cut funding too.

Slàinte,    

Patch     

Posted by: Nova Scotian 23-Oct-2010, 04:36 AM
Well if what he did was ohhhhhh! Soooooo bad!? Then what about that woman, who still holds a job there, who wished aids on a politicians child. Can someone tell me if that's ok to wish on someone?

Posted by: Jillian 23-Oct-2010, 07:33 AM
I missed that one. Who on earth said that?

Jillian

Posted by: Patch 23-Oct-2010, 09:00 AM
I will try to find her name again but the legislator was Jesse Helms and she extended it to his grand children too. Another instance was involving religion and the rapture. They felt that if 6,000 Christians disappeared the world would be a better place and they laughed.

It is pretty hard to have "ethics rules" when you have NO ethics. We talked about this at lunch yesterday and even the D's at the table felt NPR was trash.

Slàinte,    

Patch     

Posted by: MacEoghainn 23-Oct-2010, 10:49 AM
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Posted by: MacEoghainn 23-Oct-2010, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (MDF3530 @ 23-Oct-2010, 02:39 AM)
Per NPR's Ethics Code:



http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/ethics/ethics_code.html#outside

According to very competent attorneys that clause is void and unenforceable because NPR has failed to enforce it either consistently or evenhandedly, both with Mr. Williams and others on their staff.

Posted by: Patch 23-Oct-2010, 01:53 PM
We tossed that about over lunch (two attorneys in the group) and he is a fool if he does not sue! Also today, it was discovered that Soros had given over 2M to NPR.

Slàinte,    

Patch     

Posted by: Jillian 24-Oct-2010, 04:14 PM
And Totenberg is NPR's award-winning legal affairs correspondent?

That may be one of the most despicable comments I've seen (including the d-bag laughing in the background of the above clip). Wow. It's not bad enough that she wishes God strike Helms w/AIDs through transfusion, but then has the audacity to add "and maybe his grandkids"? Are you kidding me?

...I'm just glad I stopped listening to NPR long, long ago.

Jillian

Posted by: Antwn 24-Oct-2010, 05:23 PM
QUOTE (Patch @ 23-Oct-2010, 05:11 AM)
They ruined their fund raising and at the beginning too. Unless Soros is willing to take over the expenses, this could be the beginning of the end of NPR. There appears to be a taste on both sides of the isle to cut federal funding and many states will cut funding too.

  

I don't think it will have any significant impact on their funding. Soros' $2 million is a drop in the bucket of an approximately $168 million budget, and government funding is only 2% of that according to a CBS story on the affair. Still the vast majority of NPR funding is from public donations, hence National PUBLIC Radio. I think it will go on as before.

Posted by: Patch 25-Oct-2010, 12:59 AM
It has been reputed that Williams got a better contract with Fox than he had at NPR and with no restrictions too! NPR's action gave Williams more celebrity than he had pre termination thus increases his viewers share on Fox.

With all of their "money," NPR can not come close to topping Limbaugh, O'Riley Hannity and Beck for audience share.

Federal support pales in comparison to state funding and the states that provide the most are in the greatest financial peril now so that is not a reliable source of money either. The worst outcome will be the legislative debate and media coverage that will take place even if the funding remains in place.

publicly this termination now seems to be perceived as being racial and that does not sit well in even the most left leaning states. Thus, it will be interesting to watch as it continues to develop.

This election was not a a good time for this to happen as it relates to preception of D candidates.

Slàinte,    

Patch     

Posted by: Nova Scotian 25-Oct-2010, 07:32 AM
QUOTE (MacEoghainn @ 23-Oct-2010, 11:49 AM)
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This is SICK!!!! If she said that about my child or grandchild, I'd make sure she NEVER said it again!

Posted by: Nova Scotian 25-Oct-2010, 07:35 AM
QUOTE (Patch @ 25-Oct-2010, 01:59 AM)
It has been reputed that Williams got a better contract with Fox than he had at NPR and with no restrictions too! NPR's action gave Williams more celebrity than he had pre termination thus increases his viewers share on Fox.

With all of their "money," NPR can not come close to topping Limbaugh, O'Riley Hannity and Beck for audience share.

Federal support pales in comparison to state funding and the states that provide the most are in the greatest financial peril now so that is not a reliable source of money either. The worst outcome will be the legislative debate and media coverage that will take place even if the funding remains in place.

publicly this termination now seems to be perceived as being racial and that does not sit well in even the most left leaning states. Thus, it will be interesting to watch as it continues to develop.

This election was not a a good time for this to happen as it relates to preception of D candidates.

Slàinte,    

Patch     

This is very true Patch. He'll be just fine.

Posted by: Patch 25-Oct-2010, 03:33 PM
It should be interesting to see if this moves his perspective more toward the right. With friends like the far left NPR, he does not need any enemies!

Slàinte,    

Patch     

Posted by: Dogshirt 25-Oct-2010, 08:08 PM
I like the man. AAs I said, I don't always agree with him, but he gives HIS opinion
without trying to spin it. It's good to hear both sides without that!


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