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Posted by: Camac 12-Feb-2008, 10:20 AM
12/02/09

Hey JC.

From some of the post I am reading by those on the Right it seems to me That "Conservatism is next to Godliness". and "Liberalism is the Devils Handmaiden"
Last time I looked I AIN'T NO MAIDEN.

Camac.

PS: Of course you realize that back in the 50's and 60's we had God living in Canada. His name was John Diefenbaker.

Posted by: oldraven 12-Feb-2008, 11:13 AM
This isn't a thread, it's a Personal Message. Try that option next time, please. smile.gif There is no question and no topic, just a retort.

Posted by: John Clements 12-Feb-2008, 04:35 PM
QUOTE (Camac @ 12-Feb-2008, 11:20 AM)
12/02/09

Hey JC.

From some of the post I am reading by those on the Right it seems to me That "Conservatism is next to Godliness". and "Liberalism is the Devils Handmaiden"
Last time I looked I AIN'T NO MAIDEN.

Camac.

PS: Of course you realize that back in the 50's and 60's we had God living in Canada. His name was John Diefenbaker.

Camac, Your bad! Speaking of observations, (being glad that you maid that observation about your main hood, instead of me) does anyone know who won the democratic primary in New Mexico, (as it was to close to call when the poles closed), and I still have yet to hear who won? Given that, and the fact that Bill Clinton “himself”, spent the evening with Bill Richardson, (the x candidate, and Governor of New Mexico) watching the Super Bowl. It makes me wonder if Bill Clinton wasn’t offering Bill Richardson the VP spot, if he could “some how” swing the election in Hillarie’s direction? So does anybody know, if Hilary or Obama won the primary in New Mexico, or should I just keep wondering?
JC

Posted by: maisky 13-Feb-2008, 06:39 AM
New Mexico results.

Clinton 51 delegates and Obama 42 delegates.

Posted by: Camac 13-Feb-2008, 08:33 AM
13/02/08

JC:
It looks like the Democrat selection of candidate will go right down to the wire. Methinks Obama just might take it. This is very interesting as I personally thought that the U.S. would elect a woman before an Afro-American. "The times they are a changing" and it is long overdue. Hopefully the U.S. can put all the racial B.S. behind them.

Camac.

Posted by: stoirmeil 13-Feb-2008, 02:03 PM
QUOTE (Camac @ 13-Feb-2008, 09:33 AM)
I personally thought that the U.S. would elect a woman before an Afro-American. "The times they are a changing" and it is long overdue. Hopefully the U.S. can put all the racial B.S. behind them.


You know, this is a little simple-minded as an assumption, and also a little insulting. What have you got up there as a lingering problem you could all put behind you so easily, just by electing one man or woman?

Posted by: oldraven 14-Feb-2008, 12:57 PM
Stoirmeil, just spend some time talking to Quebecers and you'll see how far we have to go to rid ourselves of racists here in Canada. The same goes for most Ukrainian Canadians I've met as well.

Wow, all that kind of makes me look like a bigot too.

Posted by: stoirmeil 14-Feb-2008, 01:50 PM
QUOTE (oldraven @ 14-Feb-2008, 01:57 PM)
Stoirmeil, just spend some time talking to Quebecers and you'll see how far we have to go to rid ourselves of racists here in Canada. The same goes for most Ukrainian Canadians I've met as well.

Wow, all that kind of makes me look like a bigot too.

Well -- I can let you off the hook a little, I guess. I'm middle aged, and I come straight from the purest "Canuck" stock, even though I was born in the States. I remember plenty of conversations around my elders and kin, and yes, they were pretty critical and spoke in derogatory manner of other ethnicities. They were good people and solid citizens, but they had their opinions and they were very up front about voicing them.

I guess I just jumped a little salty. sad.gif

Posted by: Camac 14-Feb-2008, 02:43 PM

14/02/08

stoirmeil

I'm a bit older than you but I grew up with the same and it wasn't until I was in my late teens that I realized that was there way not mine.

Camac.

Posted by: Camac 14-Feb-2008, 02:47 PM
14/02/08

oldraven;

My ex is Quebecois and her attitude towards immigrants still shocks me and she married one.

Camac.

Posted by: Antwn 14-Feb-2008, 03:01 PM
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 14-Feb-2008, 02:50 PM)
I guess I just jumped a little salty. sad.gif

I don't think so, I think you made a good point. Entrenched problems don't disappear instantaneously because a particular type of candidate is elected.


Posted by: SCShamrock 15-Feb-2008, 03:23 PM
QUOTE (Antwn @ 14-Feb-2008, 04:01 PM)
I don't think so, I think you made a good point. Entrenched problems don't disappear instantaneously because a particular type of candidate is elected.

In fact the election of one person has a better chance of creating new problems or exacerbating existing ones.

Posted by: oldraven 16-Feb-2008, 12:10 AM
QUOTE (SCShamrock @ 15-Feb-2008, 02:23 PM)
In fact the election of one person has a better chance of creating new problems or exacerbating existing ones.

Exactly. If anything Racism or Sexism would be brought to the surface.

Posted by: stoirmeil 16-Feb-2008, 12:54 PM
QUOTE (oldraven @ 16-Feb-2008, 01:10 AM)
Exactly. If anything Racism or Sexism would be brought to the surface.

Except I think the sexism would still be tolerated more, or people would feel freer to voice it up front, than racism. I remember talking with some friends this week, about these issues in the election, and one of them mentioned the "iron my shirt" Hillary-heckling radio prank of several weeks back before the New Hampshire primary. My friend commented on what a furor would have been raised if it had been Obama, and the hecklers had shouted "Shine my shoes!" Nobody would have found that cute, and I doubt Obama would have answered so blithely either. It appears that the "twin" issues of race and gender that are so evident in this election campaign are really not loaded the same way.

Posted by: Nova Scotian 18-Feb-2008, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (oldraven @ 14-Feb-2008, 01:57 PM)
Stoirmeil, just spend some time talking to Quebecers and you'll see how far we have to go to rid ourselves of racists here in Canada. The same goes for most Ukrainian Canadians I've met as well.

Wow, all that kind of makes me look like a bigot too.

The French Canadians I've encountered ,for the most part, have been pleasant people. Of course, I'm told I can get along with just about anyone. Down here in Florida a few years back there were some Quebecers eating at a restaurant and were complaining to each other on how the menus weren't available in French. A friend who was with me who is Acadian overheard them and they were quite surprised when they were told in Acadian French not to even try to bring their battle here. I was shocked at the time I but laughed every time I thought of the look on their faces afterward.

Posted by: John Clements 20-Feb-2008, 01:50 PM
As most of you probably already know, Michelle Obama is taking a lot of heat for having said, (and I quote). “For the first time in my adult life time, I am “really” proud of my country” (really being the operative word) and “really” being the very word that Fox News has “cut out” of the video, which CSAN has been running. (Like I said before, we don’t get news, we get lies, and they’re not even good at it)!
Once again these people are trying to make a laughing stock of us)!


http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=49244

Posted by: oldraven 21-Feb-2008, 07:16 AM
At the same time, Nova Scotian, you just showed the staggering difference between an Acadian and a Quebecer. Sorry, many Acadians and many Quebecers, not all.

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