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Posted: 30-Sep-2009, 11:56 AM
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The battle continues: Supreme Court agrees to hear new Second Amendment case

We have just received word that the U.S. Supreme Court will hear another case on the individual rights of gun owners.

A group of Chicago gun owners is challenging a lower appeals court ruling that while the Second Amendment guarantees individual rights on the federal level, it does not bar state or city governments from passing restrictions or outright bans on guns.

Chicago imposes a handgun ban similar to the one the Supreme Court struck down last year for Washington D.C. In that case, District of Columbia v. Heller, the court declared what we have all known: that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to firearms for self-defense and does not merely refer to a state "militia."

However, the 5-4 decision did not address one important question: Does the Second Amendment also apply to states and municipalities?

The new case is called McDonald v. City of Chicago and will probably come before the court as early as this coming January, 2010. The decision may come sometime in June.

We will have more details in the coming days and weeks.

NOTE: Buckeye Firearms Association may be involved in this case as we were in last year's case. We played a part in winning that decision by preparing and submitting a brief for the court. If we participate in the coming case, we will need your financial support. The research, work, and requirements of dealing with the Supreme Court are highly expensive.

Can you donate $100 or $75 or even $50? Give as generously as you are able. Any amount will help. Your donation to the Foundation is tax-deductible.

Mail your check to:
Buckeye Firearms Foundation
15 West Winter Street
Delaware, Ohio 43015

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The Austrailian crime statistics are old but they have continued to climb!

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY


In 1929, the
Soviet Union established gun control.. From 1929 to 1953,
about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
up and exterminated.



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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.



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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total
of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
rounded up and exterminated.



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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million
political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated


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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.



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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated



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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million
educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.


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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
because of gun control: 56 million.



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It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by
new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their
own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500
million dollars. The first year results are now in:

List of 7 items:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!



In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300
percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the
criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the
past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is
unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the
ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public
safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was
expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The
Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes,
gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them
of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens.'



Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew
most Americans were ARMED!

If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message
to all of your friends.

The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in
defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more
important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is
supplemental.



SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!



SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.



SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY

CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!



IT'S A NO BRAINER!



DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS

IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

I'm a firm believer of the 2nd Amendment!


Just think how powerful our government is getting!



They think these other countries just didn't do it right.



Learn from history.

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Posted: 15-Oct-2009, 06:40 AM
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QUOTE (Patch @ 10-Oct-2009, 07:15 PM)
The Austrailian crime statistics are old but they have continued to climb! are old th

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY


In 1929, the
Soviet Union established gun control.. From 1929 to 1953,
about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
up and exterminated.



------------------------------

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.



------------------------------

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total
of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
rounded up and exterminated.



------------------------------
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million
political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated


------------------------------

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.



------------------------------

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated



------------------------------

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million
educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.


-----------------------------



Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
because of gun control: 56 million.



------------------------------

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by
new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their
own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500
million dollars. The first year results are now in:

List of 7 items:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!



In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300
percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the
criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the
past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is
unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the
ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public
safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was
expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The
Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes,
gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them
of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens.'



Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew
most Americans were ARMED!

If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message
to all of your friends.

The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in
defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more
important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is
supplemental.



SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!



SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.



SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY

CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!



IT'S A NO BRAINER!



DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS

IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

I'm a firm believer of the 2nd Amendment!


Just think how powerful our government is getting!



They think these other countries just didn't do it right.



Learn from history.

Slàinte,    

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To clarify the statements on Switzerland. Every male on military age in Switzerland is drafted into the Army and after training the majority do their service in the reserves. The Swiss government has deemed it proper to issue all these reservist full military equipment which they keep at home so that if they are called up they can report fully equipped for duty. It has nothing to do with Crime or Gun Control.



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Yes all males and also many females are reservists in Sweden.

I beg to differ about crime in Sweden. Their govt admits that having a firearm in "nearly" every household contributes to one of the lowest, if not the lowest, crime rates in the world. I will look up the statistics again when I have time though I am certain they did not change much.

Since it is mandatory for most to posess a firearm, I guess it would be a form of "controlling guns." The intent was not to deter crime though that is a pleasant side effect of the mandate. Also, the last I knew, when one was too old for military service, they were still allowed to posess "a" firearm. When one grows up around and with firearms one tends to want to continue to own them.

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When one grows up around and with firearms one tends to want to continue to own them.



As well as being knowledgable and respectful of them. thumbs_up.gif
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I agree, that is an important requirement!

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I spent a pleasant afternoon today at a private range with my son and grandsons. All did excellent. The youngest, at age 6 and shooting for the first time, put 20 shots on the paper and I took 5 rifles for them to try. We burned up a bunch of money but it was enjoyable for all.

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All you gun owners and lovers will be happy to hear that the Canadian Parliament voted last week to repeal the Long Gun Registry. (No Comment)


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Since I had to declare any guns I brought in to Canada it had little effect on me. Many whom I know in the Western provinces and some of the camp owners in Ontario will be happy for sure.

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Police Forces across Canada aren't happy at all.



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I suspect they will notice little change as I knew no one who had registered anything, though that was mostly in western Canada. Criminals will still be armed as they always have been. Guns are the tools of their trade.

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