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John Clements 
Posted: 09-May-2008, 08:00 PM
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They may have to deal with Justice Dept and the Federal prison system on Civil Rights Issues yet! 

With an election coming I would say say odds are the three are not out of the woods. 

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Patch

From your lips to Gods ears, Patch, but then, that’s only an expression, is it?
JC

It seems that about the only true justice gained is because of some other external force.

Slàinte,     

Patch

Before I retired, I had a sign on my office wall which read:

"Government will ALWAYS do the right thing, after all else fails!"

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That’s funny because it was Winston Churchill who said: You can always count on America to do the right thing, after they’ve tried everything else.
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One of my other framed signs was:

"I'm with the Government and I am here to help you." A common joke at least in Govt. circles.

My oldest Daughter is artistic and did several for me.

My office was like "Casa D' Ice in Pa. though I had to be more careful. If you haven't seen it www.casadice.com

Check his signs (the food is good too!)

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I’ll go with the: Linguini with Mussels, since mine have been shrinking.

JC

I know about the muscle shrinkage. I had lost a considerable amount of weight and was already thin. I am trying to put it back on as muscle before the end of August as that is the tentative date of my trip to Africa. I still can't shoot my heavy rifles. (460 and 375) I have a little over three months to load up on protein and work out.

What did you think os Casa D' Ice?

I was traveling , taking the scenic route, when I found it.

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Patch

Sorry Patch, I missed what you were getting at. If it was the Neon Signage, I think it looks great. I once designed a Neon Bar sign for Forster’s Beer, when I was doing ad concept for them. It was a fun account to work on.

I have to do some push-ups now, catch you later,
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Posted: 10-May-2008, 01:29 PM
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At the Casa D' Ice site there is a link to the "slogans" on his advertising sign out front. He changes it regularly depending the stupid Govt actions at the time. It does not seem to have hurt his business.

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Posted: 10-May-2008, 02:46 PM
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Sorry to interrupt the pleasantries. The coastal region of Myanmar has been under stinking salt floodwater full of wreckage and human and animal corpses for a week, and their own government is still blocking most of the relief efforts; they seized a planeload of emergency food and have only now released it with some hasty stickers on it indicating that it's coming from their own government supplies. France is suggesting an airlift override of the blockade, and damn the junta if they try to resist it; they are in no position to do much meaningful resistance anyway. No one else is responding to France.

What are they hiding, and what is the rest of the world waiting for? Why do we think international law is worth a damn, if a tinpot excuse for a government can do whatever it wants with its own population, as long as the people and the place are not strategically interesting to the powers? The Myanmar government is holding a previously planned referendum this week, cool as you please, as if three million people were not displaced and this year's whole rice crop, their main food supply, not destroyed. I never thought I'd believe FEMA was better than nothing, but this balking at rescue and relief is beyond comprehension.
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I agree with your take. If an airlift was mounted, their govt could only shake their fist's at the planes and run their mouths.

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Posted: 12-May-2008, 08:32 PM
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I agree with your take. If an airlift was mounted, their govt could only shake their fist's at the planes and run their mouths.

Slàinte,    

Patch    

I think an air drop of food and supplies is a good idea. Since our government would accept the help of Cuban Doctors in New Orleans, maybe they should have parachuted in? Nah…We probably would have shot them down, unlike those plains we should have shot down.

Sorry about be so negative guys. It’s just that there isn’t very much to be positive about, these days.

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Posted: 13-May-2008, 09:30 AM
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I agree with your take.  If an airlift was mounted, their govt could only shake their fist's at the planes and run their mouths.

Slàinte,    

Patch    

I think an air drop of food and supplies is a good idea. Since our government would accept the help of Cuban Doctors in New Orleans, maybe they should have parachuted in? Nah…We probably would have shot them down, unlike those plains we should have shot down.

Sorry about be so negative guys. It’s just that there isn’t very much to be positive about, these days.

JC

If there had been no Berlin Airlift, we would be living in a radically different world today. The Russians took potshots at the relief planes then, but they never risked shooting one down for fear of engaging the rest of the allied powers by an act of war and blowing the whole mess open again. With the Burmese junta, there's no telling what lame-brained thing they would do if they could, but they don't have the firepower to fend off an airlift. Logistically it's a horror dropping perishables because of all the water, but watertight pallets could be devised with a little thought to get something through. The military has apparently kept the small amount of high quality food that was brought in and then seized, and is handing out decayed rice to the people.

A government ripe for a turnover -- too bad there's no oil under Myanmar, just a load of fancy rubies; no one in this world ever deposed a totalitarian leader just because the people are suffering. Write that one right out of the books. dry.gif

Edit -- just read that the Chinese are welcoming funds and supplies, but not relief workers after the earthquake. Same story. What in God's name are these people hiding that they don't want the world to see, and how is it more important than the lives of thousands of their people? ALthough I must say, their infrastructure and personnel are in better shape than Burma, and the nature of the disaster is different -- access is better, and they don't lack for hands to shift rubble. But still, medical specialists, trauma specialists -- they could use all that.
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Posted: 13-May-2008, 11:26 AM
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I just heard the Chinese are admitting to 9,000 dead and 18,000 still in the rubble in one city alone. There are many more remote areas that have not been heard from at this time. The Chinese have so many people that they could lose 30 to 60 million people and it would only help their economy!

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Posted: 13-May-2008, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 13-May-2008, 10:30 AM)
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QUOTE (Patch @ 10-May-2008, 05:20 PM)
I agree with your take.  If an airlift was mounted, their govt could only shake their fist's at the planes and run their mouths.

Slàinte,    

Patch    

I think an air drop of food and supplies is a good idea. Since our government would accept the help of Cuban Doctors in New Orleans, maybe they should have parachuted in? Nah…We probably would have shot them down, unlike those plains we should have shot down.

Sorry about be so negative guys. It’s just that there isn’t very much to be positive about, these days.

JC

If there had been no Berlin Airlift, we would be living in a radically different world today. The Russians took potshots at the relief planes then, but they never risked shooting one down for fear of engaging the rest of the allied powers by an act of war and blowing the whole mess open again. With the Burmese junta, there's no telling what lame-brained thing they would do if they could, but they don't have the firepower to fend off an airlift. Logistically it's a horror dropping perishables because of all the water, but watertight pallets could be devised with a little thought to get something through. The military has apparently kept the small amount of high quality food that was brought in and then seized, and is handing out decayed rice to the people.

A government ripe for a turnover -- too bad there's no oil under Myanmar, just a load of fancy rubies; no one in this world ever deposed a totalitarian leader just because the people are suffering. Write that one right out of the books. dry.gif

Edit -- just read that the Chinese are welcoming funds and supplies, but not relief workers after the earthquake. Same story. What in God's name are these people hiding that they don't want the world to see, and how is it more important than the lives of thousands of their people? ALthough I must say, their infrastructure and personnel are in better shape than Burma, and the nature of the disaster is different -- access is better, and they don't lack for hands to shift rubble. But still, medical specialists, trauma specialists -- they could use all that.


I’m aware of the Berlin air lift, as I’m sure most of us are.

Tell you what I think, (read mimicking WC Fields).

“What we have here is… “Assisted Genocide”! Or Genocide by Nature, don’t you know that all governments love it, (including ours), because it’s a whole lot cheaper! And they can say…Hey, we did the best we could”?

Of course they don’t want our people in there, so they can manipulate the goods and take money, and also stop outsiders from putting bad ideas in their heads. Little do they know…it’s all the same thing.

You got it Patch.

Got to go get my hands dirty, later,
JC

PS: Oh I almost forgot, for those of you who don’t know, us conspiracy thinkers call 911 a “Coupe”.
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The news this AM indicated they finally reached a village of 10,000 at the epicenter of the Chinese quake and only 2300 survived. The death toll is rising rapidly in the rest of the area and many small communities have not been reached yet. I am guessing that this could equal Myamar. It is certain the Chinese will not allow outsiders in to help. I wonder if they are loaning us money to send relief?

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There is always the U.N. R.T.P. (Right to Protection) resolution which China voted for. That will stir up the pot.

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I do not expect China will will allow anyone in to help and it will cost tens of thousands of lives. I am not familiar with the U.N. R.T.P resolution but sometimes things come back to bite you.

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They are now projecting the death toll in China to be over 50,000 and in Myanmar at over 128.000. I doubt with the latter they will ever know for sure how many perished.

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O... My... G-d!

There has been enough Hele Stone weathering of the Jeremiah Ezekiel described lion head, calf head, and face as a man (clockwise) Stone carvings of Heel Stone throughout the millennia, and of those flying eagle's wings centering them on the Heelstone southwest face.

Now vandals are destroying what is left of the Stone which the builders rejected that Jesus Christ described in the Holy Bible Gospel, whereunder rests Daniel the Prophet identified Ancient of days throne described in the Revelation of Jesus Christ by Saint John the Divine.

Well hopefully these vandals did not cause even further Heel Stone damage to that lion head, calf head, face as a man (clockwise) and flying eagle's wings (centering) of the southwest face of Heelstone that faces the King James Bible described seven (7) Stone Archway.

The head of the corner Stone of the Avenue has been weathered enough!
The head of the corner Stone of the Avenue has been destroyed enough!
The head of the corner Stone of the Avenue has been damaged enough!

Save the Heel Stone! Save the Heelstone!

G-d

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/7529895
http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/sal...2281183.0.0.php
http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/head..._stonehenge.php
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O... My... G-d!

There has been enough Hele Stone weathering of the Jeremiah Ezekiel described lion head, calf head, and face as a man (clockwise) Stone carvings of Heel Stone throughout the millennia, and of those flying eagle's wings centering them on the Heelstone southwest face.

Now vandals are destroying what is left of the Stone which the builders rejected that Jesus Christ described in the Holy Bible Gospel, whereunder rests Daniel the Prophet identified Ancient of days throne described in the Revelation of Jesus Christ by Saint John the Divine.

Well hopefully these vandals did not cause even further Heel Stone damage to that lion head, calf head, face as a man (clockwise) and flying eagle's wings (centering) of the southwest face of Heelstone that faces the King James Bible described seven (7) Stone Archway.

The head of the corner Stone of the Avenue has been weathered enough!
The head of the corner Stone of the Avenue has been destroyed enough!
The head of the corner Stone of the Avenue has been damaged enough!

Save the Heel Stone! Save the Heelstone!

G-d

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/7529895
http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/sal...2281183.0.0.php
http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/head..._stonehenge.php



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I read this AM that Crude peaked at $135 plus over night. Ford announced that they are cutting production for the rest of the year due to instability in the market place. The lay off will cause more instability. ALSO, the maximum crude recovery cost on this continent is about $60 a barrel. That is for "oil shale" in this country and "oil sand" in Canada. There is a gigantic deep water reserve off the coast of South America which would cost $90 a barrel to pump.

At some point if the people do not get mad, we will be eating grass and shoe leather as happened during the Irish potato famine!

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