What do you think of the man?
What do you think of his works & writings?
Is/was he truly evil or are the stories about him just propaganda?
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| Posted by: Angel Whitefang (Rider) 12-Apr-2004, 10:57 PM |
| I have heard several opinions about this man but, only a few sources do I value, you guys would be one of them. What do you think of the man? What do you think of his works & writings? Is/was he truly evil or are the stories about him just propaganda? |
| Posted by: barddas 13-Apr-2004, 07:07 AM |
| Aleister Crowley was many of the things that were printed about him. Many were his own creation. Yes, he was a drug, and sex addict. And loved ALL forms of experamentation of those things. But you also have to look at what he did in the age that he was doing those things. The turn of the 20th century. When Victorian conservity, and pre 20th century expressionism were colliding! His writings and studies on Magick is what should be looked at. I personally recommend his book - 'MAGICK in theory and practice' That is where I would start...... then maybe to '777 and other Quabalistic writings' |
| Posted by: barddas 13-Apr-2004, 07:15 AM |
I only half answered your question. As a person Aleister was a little 'out there'. Even for todays standards.... Just think the stir he made back in his day!  But I think a lot of it was his own hype. As an Occultist his writings are very text book, and precise. You can tell by his words that Magick was his passion. I like his works.... many have a problem with it...... It works for me...... |
| Posted by: Arianrhod 13-Apr-2004, 07:33 AM |
| I'll say this.. Ozzie wrote a song about him... In Service to the Dream, Paula |
| Posted by: Raven 13-Apr-2004, 08:18 AM |
I used to love his PBS specials  Peace Mikel |
| Posted by: RavenWing 13-Apr-2004, 11:24 AM |
| I am fascinated with Crowley. You have to weed out they hype from the oh, how do I say it, serious things he did. he definitley had a narcissistic streak. Some of the stuff he did was pure baloney. |
| Posted by: RavenWing 13-Apr-2004, 11:24 AM |
| I think some of his best stuff was when he was with the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. |
| Posted by: barddas 13-Apr-2004, 11:30 AM | ||
He was his best PR person!!!! LOL! |
| Posted by: Shadows 13-Apr-2004, 12:20 PM |
| Legend in his own mind; pure fabrication! All spin and no substanance! |
| Posted by: Angel Whitefang (Rider) 17-Apr-2004, 10:58 PM |
| Thanks all, I appreciate your insite, any other comments on him??? Barddas, I am trying to find a copy of the first book you reccomended Bardy but, as of yet, no luck. Do you have an Idea where I could get a copy? Shadows, Have you read any of his books that you would reccomend to me? RW, What is your fascination with him exactly? Is it his works of Magick or something else? Ari, which song are you refering to? Raven, HEHEHEHAHAHA! Your such a nut ! Much Love, |
| Posted by: barddas 18-Apr-2004, 05:47 PM |
| Here ya go, Angel. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0486232956/qid=1082331964/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-5559284-0594505?v=glance&s=books |
| Posted by: Arianrhod 18-Apr-2004, 09:54 PM |
| Song Title.. Mr Crowley .. In Service to the Dream, Paula |
| Posted by: RavenWing 20-Apr-2004, 09:56 AM | ||
I am mainly fascinated with his brain. I wonder how someone gets to that point. You could say the man was a genius, you can also say he was a lunatic.  |
| Posted by: Angel Whitefang (Rider) 21-Apr-2004, 12:23 PM |
*bounds in all happy Faceish* Great News, Barnes & Nobel had 4 Books written by A.C. !! I have ordered them and am now just waiting. Thanks Bardy babe, I appreciate the link, it gave me exactly what I needed  *Looks for that song* Genious or Lunatic huh? hmm sounds like Nikola Tesla but on a more spiritual plane. It is amazing to me how when these men were alive they were put down and made fun of. Their reputations ruined because of other men and their arrogance. Yet now in this day and age we find that what they said or did was actually fact & correct in alot of ways. Are we more open minded physically or is there a deeper spiritual truth being shown to us? It's a good question, I think. Many many to each of you |
| Posted by: barddas 21-Apr-2004, 12:52 PM |
| I think it's a bit of both. Today Magick is less Arcane, than in the day when, Aleister was practicing. At that time magick was done in 'secret' societies, ie The Golden Dawn. And he broke that mold, with his group O.T.O. But I think his obsession with being an adventurer, took its toll on him. He lost his son to Scarlette Fever, while they were on one of his trips...... I think he was a bt obsessive about the things he was into. And that on top of his drug habits....... gave him some of his reputaion. |
| Posted by: Angel Whitefang (Rider) 22-Apr-2004, 02:29 PM |
| hmmmmmmm, you could be right, but even I get obsessive over some things. Like my Art work or my Dragons. Heh Just part of being me I guess. |
| Posted by: aiwassa 11-Nov-2004, 03:35 PM |
| well, my father loved crowley so much he named me aiwassa- the a on the end to make it feminine! |
| Posted by: Shadows 15-Nov-2004, 11:09 AM |
| I find nothing about him or his works that even come close to true Magick or paganism... he was out to make a buck and a name for himself and he did just that! You "could" call him the father of these "dressed in black kids" at the malls that don't have a clue! |
| Posted by: freekenny 29-Nov-2004, 10:26 PM |
| O'siyo, ~ Personally, I believe he was nothing more than a Master of Propaganda and a Master of Manipulation  Far from being anything Magical in my opinion..oh and let us not forget he was a major drug abuser...claims he needed them for his 'visions' and to 'receive messages'....hmmmm don't buy that either! I believe he was a miserable, insecure little man..~~ Sty-U  |