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Posted by: McRoach 02-Feb-2010, 02:51 PM
I have spoken with some of my own and other clan members about the idea of starting the MK games.

Many here in MK are currently part of a clan and while all the clans here have been at war with one or another at some point, this has the side effect of limiting some players desire to go starting up a battle with another in fear they will lose there clans support and also start new clan wars.

To quench these players thirst for blood I suggest the following, a structured safe haven for players to concede to battle with one another with no political strings attached. Our own virtual MK thunderdome if you will. Two lords/ess enter, one lord/ess leaves.

I as leader of Clan D.A.R.K. declare that any player who wishes to do battle by declaring it here and having it agreed upon with another player will suffer no discipline from me. I do warn however that any player who agrees to battle and then has clan mates get involved in that 1 on 1 fight will be considered a treasonous cowardly act of war.

I call on all other clan leaders to declare likewise in this friendly arena where even those players who are at peace may come and strut there stuff when desire strikes. With that let the games begin!

Posted by: gandolf3339 03-Feb-2010, 10:05 AM
Seems to me that some side betting should be done on these battles, I will put up a 1,000,000 gold prize for the first two players to get into these games(for the winner) and I will bet 1,000,000 gold on one of these two combatants(who I think may win). unsure.gif

Posted by: olorin 06-Feb-2010, 08:41 PM
I remember we tried to put something similar to this together in the past. I was all for it then, and I am all for it now. Perhaps we should call them the "Celtic Games" in a similar fashion to the early olympic games of past. I think there would be no better place to either battle for sport, or perhaps settle a grudge in an amicable way between individuals without the politics antics of clans getting in the way.
I think we should work this idea out in detail, (rules of conduct, length and number of attacks per skirmish, etc.) and figure out a way to have impartial judges to oversee and deterimne the winners of such battles.

I like Gandalf's idea of a cash reward as well. Everyone involved, (be it spectator or participant) would have to contribute for it to work though, so I will take the first step here and double Lord Gandalf's offer.

I put up 2,000,000 for the first two willing to get these games off to a good start, (that's a cool million in gold each folks), and will also put out a 2,000,000 purse for whom I think will win said battle. thumbs_up.gif

A thought comes to mind...after these battles each participant will be weakened to a point. Rules of play should include things like a war exemption, (should a war break out within a certain timeframe after a "game" to protect ones self and allow them to get back in playing shape). Or perhaps a limit set as to how much army and rescources would be allowed per game to limit the possible damage, (again, as a means of protection).

If we think this through I know we could make a fun and sporting event out of this that anyone at any level can enjoy. With some time invested a handicap system could even be developed so that anyone could play and make a game purely of wits and cunning rather than raw power. flex.gif

The more I think about it the more I am getting into the idea! Lets get this rolling!

Posted by: ridgeback77 07-Feb-2010, 09:30 AM
I'd be willing to take on tallerlacuba of Idealand or Showann of Sherwood.

Posted by: Showann 07-Feb-2010, 08:51 PM
Thanks for counting with us Lord Mc Roach.

Of course we are with you in your project.

Showann of Sherwood
Clan Plus Ultra

Posted by: tallerlacuba 08-Feb-2010, 11:37 AM
I don't like war

And I have nothing to lose, I have been attacked until everything in my Kingdom was destroyed.

Rebuilding has been very slow, so I don't think I could "fight" with anybody, because I have a few soldiers, but if someone wants to destroy me again I really don't care.

It seems Lord Ridgeback wants to do it.

just do it

Anyway I won't attack anyone, so I guess I won't win the prize.

thumbs_up.gif note.gif

tallerlacuba of IDEALAND


Posted by: gandolf3339 08-Feb-2010, 05:28 PM
I will match Lord Olorins offer and bump it with 2,000,000 in wood and food for the first 2 participants (1 mill. each for each) to help them rebuild.

Posted by: ridgeback77 08-Feb-2010, 06:23 PM
QUOTE
I don't like war

And I have nothing to lose, I have been attacked until everything in my Kingdom was destroyed.

Rebuilding has been very slow, so I don't think I could "fight" with anybody, because I have a few soldiers, but if someone wants to destroy me again I really don't care.

It seems Lord Ridgeback wants to do it.

just do it

Anyway I won't attack anyone, so I guess I won't win the prize.

tallerlacuba of IDEALAND


It was nothing against you, you just happened to be the closest to me in score. I hate to see a demoralized player in any game, and as I have now moved ahead of you in the rankings; I'll withhold my attack.

I'll still offer myself up to either Showann of Sherwood or Leelee of Lothlorien.

Posted by: tallerlacuba 08-Feb-2010, 07:27 PM
Thanks my Lord, I appreciate your understanding.

Maybe you would be demoralized if every member of certain Clan had attacked you with no reason. Six or seven against one.

I would like to accept your offer, to deal with real Knights but unfortunately the cowards hidden by the nights destroyed everything and now I have just a bunch of soldiers as I wrote before.

Maybe later WE can play a fair game.

Thanks again.


tallerlacuba

Posted by: Leelee 09-Feb-2010, 06:58 AM
QUOTE
I'll still offer myself up to either Showann of Sherwood or Leelee of Lothlorien.


Say What!!!! ohmy.gif How did I get included in this???? You just may regret these words that you have spoken LOL wink.gif

Posted by: ridgeback77 09-Feb-2010, 07:48 AM
QUOTE
Say What!!!!  How did I get included in this???? You just may regret these words that you have spoken LOL


Well you're now ahead of me in the rankings, and I'm pretty sure I could take you out. Care to find out if that's the case?

Posted by: MacDonnchaidh 09-Feb-2010, 09:15 AM
QUOTE
I'll still offer myself up to either Showann of Sherwood or Leelee of Lothlorien.
......
Well you're now ahead of me in the rankings, and I'm pretty sure I could take you out.


Now I may be taking this out of context, but them sounds like courtin' words! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ridgeback77 09-Feb-2010, 09:16 AM
Mind. Gutter. OUT.

Posted by: Leelee 09-Feb-2010, 08:56 PM
QUOTE
MacDonnchaidh Posted on 09-Feb-2010, 09:15 AM
  QUOTE 
I'll still offer myself up to either Showann of Sherwood or Leelee of Lothlorien.
......
Well you're now ahead of me in the rankings, and I'm pretty sure I could take you out.

Now I may be taking this out of context, but them sounds like courtin' words!


My dear Lord MacDonnchaidh, I fear there is a great misunderstanding here sleep.gif Lord Ridgeback77 was merely challenging me to a wee battle *mmpphh*, a minor technicality.

May I say, Lord, be wary....don't read between the lines....it can get you in trouble rolleyes.gif LOL!!!! laugh.gif

Posted by: McRoach 10-Feb-2010, 02:24 PM
QUOTE (Leelee @ 09-Feb-2010, 08:56 PM)
QUOTE
MacDonnchaidh Posted on 09-Feb-2010, 09:15 AM
  QUOTE 
I'll still offer myself up to either Showann of Sherwood or Leelee of Lothlorien.
......
Well you're now ahead of me in the rankings, and I'm pretty sure I could take you out. 


May I say, Lord, be wary....don't read between the lines....it can get you in trouble rolleyes.gif LOL!!!! laugh.gif

Might this be our first MK challenge? I may interested in making a wager on this one. sly.gif

Posted by: McRoach 23-Feb-2010, 02:54 PM
QUOTE (olorin @ 06-Feb-2010, 08:41 PM)
I remember we tried to put something similar to this together in the past. I was all for it then, and I am all for it now. Perhaps we should call them the "Celtic Games" in a similar fashion to the early olympic games of past. I think there would be no better place to either battle for sport, or perhaps settle a grudge in an amicable way between individuals without the politics antics of clans getting in the way.
I think we should work this idea out in detail, (rules of conduct, length and number of attacks per skirmish, etc.) and figure out a way to have impartial judges to oversee and deterimne the winners of such battles.

I like Gandalf's idea of a cash reward as well. Everyone involved, (be it spectator or participant) would have to contribute for it to work though, so I will take the first step here and double Lord Gandalf's offer.

I put up 2,000,000 for the first two willing to get these games off to a good start, (that's a cool million in gold each folks), and will also put out a 2,000,000 purse for whom I think will win said battle. thumbsup.gif

A thought comes to mind...after these battles each participant will be weakened to a point. Rules of play should include things like a war exemption, (should a war break out within a certain timeframe after a "game" to protect ones self and allow them to get back in playing shape). Or perhaps a limit set as to how much army and rescources would be allowed per game to limit the possible damage, (again, as a means of protection).

If we think this through I know we could make a fun and sporting event out of this that anyone at any level can enjoy. With some time invested a handicap system could even be developed so that anyone could play and make a game purely of wits and cunning rather than raw power. flex.gif

The more I think about it the more I am getting into the idea! Lets get this rolling!

I have given the gold reward and betting options some thought and due to the construct and nature of this game it would be unfair to allow bets based on exactly who would destroy how many of each unit or building (largely because the contestants could sway it one way or the other). I like the idea that ALL MK players can wager on a match and potentially win a big pot, I was thinking something along the lines of football squares. http://www.printofficepools.com/squares/examplesquares.htm
Call it the total number of troops, buildings, and towers destroyed in battle equals the score of a player. Anyone can buy a square for 1,000,000 each and the winner gets a 90,000,000 pot. The other 10mil? Say 9,000,000 to the Player who destroys the most troops and 1,000,000 to the bookie for managing all of it. How would the total be determined fair? Well here is where some rules and structure would come in.

Both players in Match would have to submit battle reports to either the ref or bookie (their reward for doing so accurately would be a 9% cut of the pot) and so long as they match up on the ref/bookies end, then a winner could be chosen. In the event of fraud on one or both players parts the money would be returned and the contest considered void.

I whole heartedly agree that any player attacking someone within a week of a structured match would be considered a coward and deserve a whomping from every player in MK (Unless of coarse that player started it).

If the square thing works and we can generate enough interest in it maybe we could get King Camelot to throw in a CD or some other spiff from time to time.


Posted by: TheCarolinaScotsman 23-Feb-2010, 03:23 PM
I suppose such a plan might suffice for players lacking the gonads for real combat.

Posted by: McRoach 24-Feb-2010, 02:37 PM
QUOTE (TheCarolinaScotsman @ 23-Feb-2010, 03:23 PM)
I suppose such a plan might suffice for players lacking the gonads for real combat.

Or perhaps for those who don't spend time pushing their entire clan against a few players to make it to the top....sure! I would have figured a clan ranked up so high that it could rarely attack anyone else would be open to the idea of a friendly bought now and then. I guess gathering up resources until the next reset if no one chooses to battle with you is more fun, to each their own I suppose.

Posted by: englishmix 15-May-2010, 02:00 PM
Hear ye, fair members of the dark clan Argyl!

Ye are welcome to become members of the NEW CLAN which I am about to start. Ye have doubtless noticed my rise in Medievalness. I have offered ye all tea and crumpets, but your clan viciously assaults me who makes no threats.

Ye clan assaults me and just adds to my Defense Bonus. It is good training and I thank thee.

But if ye would chose to leave such a yesterday clan as Argyl and join my new noble Clan which I am soon to unleash, you will be treated with great honor and be priviledged to sit at my right and upon my left in the great feast hall. No longer will you be a lacky kingdom of Argyl.

What say ye? Send a courier message to my austere Kingdom Hall and we shall soon reign together as FAIR LORDS of this entire realm. This, of course, is a limited time offer.

Ye know well that I have not attacked any clan of Argyl on my ascendancy to this very day. I await your dispatches from those who are noble in the passing Clan Argyl. Your communiques will be kept in the strictess of confidence, I assure you.

The illustrious and most humble,
Laird Englishmix of Kilkerran
Scotland

Posted by: englishmix 15-May-2010, 02:53 PM
Now you see, where did all of Piob's Battering Rams go?... Smashed like toothpicks. And yet, I have attacked no one. Is that the kind of leader you wish to follow? If not, send me a message. We can change this game for the better.

Lord Englishmix

Posted by: TheCarolinaScotsman 15-May-2010, 03:09 PM
Dear Mutt Boy

Why should we care to align ourselves with that which even a dung beetle refuses to touch. As for your "new clan", will it be propped up with resources from DARK as you are yourself at this moment? We shall never rest in our efforts to rid the fair MK of the foul pollution that you bring.

Posted by: piobmhorpiper 15-May-2010, 04:58 PM
QUOTE (englishmix @ 15-May-2010, 03:53 PM)
Now you see, where did all of Piob's Battering Rams go?... Smashed like toothpicks. And yet, I have attacked no one. Is that the kind of leader you wish to follow? If not, send me a message. We can change this game for the better.

Lord Englishmix

My Clansmen follw me because they are faithful to Clan Argyle. They would never sit at your side in any clan that your are associated with. The Dark Clan must be thrilled with you right about now, trying to ally yourself with their deadliest enemy and offering to start a new with Clan Argyle members! You sir are laughable. You have been taken to task by Clan Argyle because you fly the DARK Clan flag, rose high in the rankings very quickly, and became a threat that was dealt with. I shall waste no more time or words with you.
King Piobmhorpiper
Clan Argyle Chieftan

Posted by: englishmix 15-May-2010, 08:11 PM
Ah, now all of Medievalness from the lowest to the highest see what Clan Argyl has become! Yet still I have not attack any in Argyl - as you know full well.

I am where I am from hard work and honest words. As former king of Medievalness, I look to the throne again with a new clan and a new day. And am encouraged by some communique from Argyl as well as the rest of players. There is still time to join a new noble clan.

By early this new week, my Clan shall arise. If you pummle my kingdom to Rank 8, what is that? Have I not ascended from Rank 20 to frighten you all like silly women? And yet, I have not attacked any of you. But it is your ranking you ought to be concerned about soon - those who follow the ilk of Clan Argyl!

Lord Englishmix of Kilkerran


Posted by: piobmhorpiper 17-May-2010, 03:49 AM
Lord Englishmix, you are a LIAR. You have attackes an Argyle Clansmen in the past and here is the battle result post to prove it.

(Archive from old clan post)
14-Feb-2010 10:07pm
We were attacked by an army from the kingdom 1:8:3. The enemy managed to secure a hill overlooking the battlefield. The enemy forces were led by "Duke Howarth".

We lost 668 Guard Tower to the enemy Trebuchet.
Our Guard Tower annihilated the attacking Swordsmen.
Our Guard Tower annihilated the attacking Pikemen.
Our Guard Tower killed 10,087 enemy Infantry.
Our Guard Tower killed 4,157 enemy Militia.
We lost 1,303 Swordsmen to the enemy Longbowmen.
Our Longbowmen annihilated the attacking Infantry.
Our Longbowmen killed 4,754 enemy Militia.
We lost 740 Infantry to the enemy Archers.
Our Archers killed 2,432 enemy Militia.
Our Pikemen killed 2,347 enemy Knights.
We lost 2,467 Cavalry to the enemy Spearmen.
Our Spearmen killed 983 enemy Cavalry.
We lost 8,340 Archers to the enemy Cavalry.
Our Cavalry killed 5,153 enemy Archers.
We lost 1 Swordsmen to the enemy Knights.
Our Swordsmen killed 6,186 enemy Spearmen.
Our Infantry killed 7,648 enemy Militia.
The enemy Militia annihilated our Archers.
We lost 793 Militia to the enemy Militia.
Our Militia killed 1,231 enemy Archers.
We lost 778 Gold Mine to the enemy Battering ram.

Posted by: TheCarolinaScotsman 17-May-2010, 10:28 AM
As of 7:00 this morning, Englishmix has no mines and no farms. He is reduced to begging for the very food on his table since he can niether grow it nor buy it. A common begger.

Posted by: CelticSpecter 18-May-2010, 12:31 PM
Not only a liar but a coward too.

16-May-2010 10:37pm
The army from the kingdom of Kilkerran (1:8:3) has been recalled.

16-May-2010 10:13pm
An army marches upon us from the kingdom of Galafray (2:1:5). It should arrive within 7 months.

16-May-2010 09:06pm
An army marches upon us from the kingdom of Kilkerran (1:8:3). It should arrive within 4 months.

Posted by: englishmix 18-May-2010, 04:28 PM
Ah, what dear historians ye make! I had well arisen in this fair Spring with no hostilities - except me offering you tea & crumpets when you come and visit. And yet the thugs of Argyl attack. Point is made. Ruse was given, and you took to it well enough.

I will say, that the members of Argyl are very loyal. You do have that! A loyal band of skallywaggers, the likes of which all else in Medievalness should oppose as rouges.

PS:
If I am a common begger, then what makes are those Argyl members who are below me??? ... common scum, which ain't arisn to the top, me thinks. Argh!
smile.gif

Posted by: CelticSpecter 18-May-2010, 05:24 PM
You have been exposed for what you are by your own activities, no one else. And that makes us scum? You, sir, are nothing more than a demagogue of the lowest order.

I will not waste anymore of my time dealing with someone of your ilk. You can take your tea and crumpets and stick them where the sun don't shine.

Posted by: piobmhorpiper 18-May-2010, 05:37 PM
Honorable Lords and Ladies of MK, never have my clansmen or I, have ever run across such a demon, as englishmix. He comes on a gentleman, pretendinding to be a peaceful lord, wishing only to share his tea and crumpets. He lets on that he has nary an agressive bone his his body. When in fact he is a spineless whinnig imbecile that even when presented proof that he has in the past attacked Argyle denies it. Clan Argyle has noticed, that englishmix is the only member of Clan Dark that insults and taunts us, let alone carries on like a two year old. My Lord take your ball and go home, for when playing with us you will get hurt and go running back to your mommy.

Posted by: olorin 27-Jun-2010, 02:32 AM
I take no side with either clan concerning any of the above statements. But the fact of the matter is that Argyle will attack anyone that dare to even pass by your "territories". You attack whether provoked or not; ruthlessly and mercilessly, and you will not stop at any cost until you feel you have completly broken the spirit of those who dare try to occupy any land amongst you. The runaway train created by your mass ownership of resources allows you the freedom to just swat away anyone in your path like a fly without even so much as a dent in your stockpike. While this strong arm tactic clearly works, it has gotten to the point to where it is just taking the fun away from the game for some of us.

Congradulations, you own Medieval Kingdom...but at what cost?

I know you will likely rant at length about how your "prowess" and "supreme knowledge" of the game gave you the ability to build your clan to the undeniable power that you have become. I'm sure we'll also hear about how we can blame ourselves for our own shortcomings and perhaps even how mine and other clans failed leadership contributed to this landslide. Even if some of this holds partial truth, it doesn't change the fact that the game has now become stale.

Call me or my clan cowards, liars, or whatever you wish; I honestly don't care and wont reply to such silliness. And please, save any so called "pity" you may wish to throw down to us pesants, I have no need for any petty acts of good will or "assistance" from anyone in your clan.

Rest assured my intent was not to stir up a fight or call anyone dishonest by any means; I came her with but an opinion, and I have made it clear.

Posted by: Heartless75 27-Jun-2010, 11:37 PM
Forgive my words if they are unwanted or if they displease anyone, but I believe the problem not to be the fault of anyone. It is not that our clan has too much power and strikes at those who get close in that strength. With power, will always come paranoia. It is only natural that Argyll does its best to prevent the power being taken. Were I in another clan, I would see this reaction by Argyll as a challenge and therefore, I would use the current time and do my best to develope a strategy that would rip Argyll from the throne no matter the tactics they employed. It would cause so much havoc if the entire heirarchy of MK was unseated.

Therefore, and not as provocation, I would like to challenge the other clans to use this current time to develope strategies that may unseat Argyll. I personally have thought of a few myself that, were I in another clan, I would attempt them myself. I am already sure that many of you know clan Argyll's tactics which should help in your endeavors.

I again mean no offense and simply wish to raise the spirits of others. Also, if you can build an unstoppable force, we may finally learn what happens when it clashes with an immovable object. And, I would like to see that for myself.

Posted by: TheCarolinaScotsman 03-Jul-2010, 07:09 AM
My dear Olorin, I respect you and your opinion even if I disagree with you. It is my opinion that the goal in any game is to win. I would call total domination by one clan a clear win. Would you have us "let" an opponent beat us? What challenge is that? If you were to be the one who was "allowed" to win, would you feel accomplished or pandered to? Perhaps the game needs a set goal that clearly delineates a winner and when that goal is reached, the game is reset. Would this keep the challenge fresh enough for you? Or maybe there should be a time limit between resets. I believe the true challenge is to study the game and then develop a strategy to not just win, but to dominate. No strategy is perfect though. Someone can always come up with an effective counter strategy. The game is not just about throwing armies at each other, but is a mental challenge to develop strategies and tactics. Sometimes, it may take a while to figure out a successful answer to one clan's dominance, but it can be done and there in lies the challenge. So I challenge you sir to use your mental prowess, which I believe to be great, to find a way to beat us. We too grow tired of continued dominance, but rolling over "for the good of the game" is no answer. We are waiting for the one who will catch us off guard with a new and surprising tactic. Come on, knock us off the mountain.

Posted by: olorin 04-Jul-2010, 11:44 PM
I see your point my friend and it was never my intention at all to have you just roll over and play dead, there would be no fun in that whatsoever. I will readily admit though that I both admire and despise your position there, (I am a tad jealous after all, who wouldn't be?). I think I am mad at myself more than anyone for letting this happen to begin with. I have been here long enough and know the tactics of you and your ilk all the way back to MacInne, yet after the reset I jumped the gun like a young inexperienced warrior while you and your clanmates quietly waited and readied yourselves for the right time to move. This very simple tactic set into motion everything that you have now and I kick myself in the arse daily for not following suit; clearly I should have, (and did) know better.

Concerning your reset ideas I think something of that nature could work, though it would likely tick off some of the newer players who had worked really hard to get where they are. I do believe us veterans would enjoy the fresh start from time to time though so maybe a partial reset could be a option? I think a good idea would be to implement something into the game to make this runaway resource train problem much harder to achieve, because once someone gets that advantage it's almost impossible to overcome it. I mean seriously, how many farmers from the celtic era do you think owned millions of farms or had trillions of gold coin lying about? I think it would be fair to say those are not very realistic numbers. cool.gif Perhaps they should put a cap on the amount of resources you can own or maybe limit how much you can earn per day/week/month. Maybe stiffen the taxes and broaden that idea across all resources as a sort of equalizer. This would level the playing field substantially and would make the game more of a battle of wits than brute strength. There would still be clear winners and losers but the possibility for a rival clan to rise up and capture the throne from it's rulers would not be such an insurmountable task as is the case at this time.

For now I suppose we shall have to see if we can live up to your challenge and devise a way to overcome the seemingly impossible; to rise up and storm your great empire. For I personally would like to see up close what happens when an unstoppable force clashes with an immovable object; the results would be quite a sight to see I am sure of it.

Posted by: wiramc 21-Jul-2010, 12:13 AM
Allow me to introduce myself, I am Wiramc of Harnett. I am new to Medieval Kingdom, but have heard much of the battles fought here. In due time, I shall join in some of those battles. I do not expect to win all, but I shall win my share. I may befriend some along the way and I am sure to make bitter enemies, but through all, I shall uphold the honor of my self and my clan, Clan Mack. When the time is right, I shall come calling, in the meantime, let us lift a flagon to this fine land we now call home.

Posted by: englishmix 21-Jul-2010, 04:33 PM
Lord Wiramc,

Nice to read your post and your noble adventure of a Clan. You are to be congratulated at achieving over 2 trillion in resources at Rank 83. That is a fine feat. It may even suggest that you have allies high above you that are not in your immediate Clan. Time will tell. So be wary the rest of you lot if you are thinking of assaulting Lord Wiramc's kingdom.

If you send warning and attack, you should be okay for the skirmish. But if you do so with Clan Argyl, they will heap vengence against you until they have to rename their Clan again [Argh, ha, ha, ha...] laugh.gif That's just the sort they are.

Anyway, keep up the posts!

The noble, fair and most illustrious Lord Englishmix
Kilkerran, Scotland

Posted by: wiramc 21-Jul-2010, 11:05 PM
I can assure you that I have no connection to Clan Argyle other than the fact that I have studied the history of the game and observed their tactic. They bided their time, aparently building resources in secret, until they were ready to make an appearance. This seemed a good strategy, unlike some who seem to have no strategy but whinging to prove their worth. I give fair warning to any cowardly complainers, Sir Englishmix, that I will become a force to be reckoned with.

Posted by: englishmix 22-Jul-2010, 08:18 AM
Fare thee well, Wiramc!

Posted by: olorin 30-Jul-2010, 02:48 AM
Fair thee well indeed Lord Wiramc; the latest kingdom to appear in our lands.

Will it be friend or foe? gossip.gif

Posted by: piobmhorpiper 30-Jul-2010, 12:37 PM
If Lord Wiramc has any sense about him, and I think he does, he alresdy knows who to ally with and who to stay a swords length away from. Lord Wiramc you are wiser than your years and well informed. I bid you and your kingdom well.

King Piobmhorpiper
Argyle Clan Chieftan

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