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Posted by: Annabelle 29-Dec-2003, 05:57 PM
I noticed us "chicks" like to talk about things that might be sensitive to guys. So I thought we could warn the guys and jump in here when we want to talk...chick stuff.

I'd love to start it by asking for some help!

My skin has a problem keeping moisture during the winter. I use Estee Lauder moisturizer but nothing I use I feel dry all the time during the winter. Anybody have any suggestions?

Posted by: Dreamer1 29-Dec-2003, 08:33 PM
Hey Annabelle!

I always had the same problem in the winters (and Fall, sometimes too). Try using Oil of Olay Body Wash for extra dry skin. It's heaven!! I don't have to add any lotion afterwards any more! Such a relief!

Happiest of New Years to you, and to everyone, too!!

Dreamer1

Posted by: Annabelle 29-Dec-2003, 09:26 PM
Dreamer I'll give that a try. Now what can I put on the heels of my feet. They are not in very goood shape. Cracked and I don't understand cause I have socks on all of the time. Help Sister Dreamer!

Annabelle

Posted by: CelticRose 29-Dec-2003, 09:53 PM
Good idea Annabelle! Ooh! My kind of topic....skin care! We have someone on this board who is an expert in all this stuff. Hopefully she will see this and come in and help us all out.

I have very sensitive skin that is prone to breakout if I use certain products. So I have to use fragrance-free items. I personally have found that the stuff you buy in the drug store is just as good as the very expensive department store items. I tend to use a lot of Neutrogena products. Cetaphil has an excellent moisturizer for dry, sensitive skin. I use that and when I put that stuff on, I don't need anything else the rest of the day either!

I use a pumpice stone on my heals and then apply plain ole vaseline on my heels with socks on at night and that helps me. There is probably something better though.

Posted by: Richard Bercot 29-Dec-2003, 10:13 PM
It is traditional among my people that any women's council no matter how small must have a male representive present. He is not permitted to say anything or make any kind of jestures or remarks. So you will be having an eye kept on you. unsure.gif

Posted by: CelticRose 29-Dec-2003, 11:25 PM
Ah! I wondered who would be the first guy in here to see what we're gabbing about! tongue.gif You can be our honorary representative. I am sure your wife could give us some advice too! biggrin.gif

Posted by: jaynebylak 30-Dec-2003, 07:59 AM
Hello
I had rough and cracked heels. I started using pumice stone to smooth out then I put a treatment lotion called Kerosel. You can find it where foot care is in Walmart or probably anywhere else.

I am sceptic on new products so I hve to try them before I suggest them to others. I tried the Kerosel. i cant believe how smooth my heels are getting. U use it once a day. I recommend it.
Jayne

Posted by: Elspeth 30-Dec-2003, 09:03 AM
Here's an old-fashioned remedy for really dry skin. My hands crack and bleed in the winter (old house, humididty drops to about 40%)Anyway, I put Bag Balm on my hands before bed. It's greasy, it doesn't have a pleasant smell, but it works. You could use it for calloused heels too, just lather it on and put on some socks.
The stuff was literally made for cows. I know, not too attractive, but if it works, it works. You can buy it in any drug store I think. I've had this tin for a while.

Posted by: oldraven 30-Dec-2003, 09:16 AM
*uses his most girly voice*

It helps to moisurize just after you get out of the shower, while your skin is still wet. This is helping me battle these dastardly dry western winters.

Posted by: JaneyMae 30-Dec-2003, 11:38 AM
I use Eucerin on my face and elbows after I moisture. It's like putting saran wrap on which keeps the dirt out and the moisture in. It's grand and is fragrance free and lovely. When my heels crack I put a lanolin ointment on my feet and put on a pair of white socks when I go to bed. Works great! Also put baby oil on as I step out of the shower. Another great moisturizer. Our weather is very dry so can never have anough lotion, cream, etc lol.gif

Richard, glad to see you are taking such good care of us!

Old Raven, Your voice keeps cracking. Why?

Posted by: RavenWing 30-Dec-2003, 11:54 AM
Suave makes a great body wash called Milk and Honey. It is almost like bathing with lotion. I recommend it.

It's really inexpensive too. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 30-Dec-2003, 02:54 PM
I'm quite fond of the Bodyshop's lotions with hemp.. that's smoothing and moisturising extremely.

My mother makes lotions and stuff herself, I can ask her for a recipe as well.

It helps when you put on Penaten/Nivea Baby-creme in your face before going out into the cold. Compact powder helps against the shiny bits.
If you have to put on make up you might want to take a fat-containing or lanolin (great stuff) containing moisturiser or night cream..

For day to day use I use the L'oreal nature based range or boots botanics range (the wake-up eye cream is great!), a fat or lanolin containing moisturiser for cold days and a simple moisturiser for all others.

Posted by: CelticRose 30-Dec-2003, 03:13 PM
QUOTE (oldraven @ Dec 30 2003, 10:16 AM)
*uses his most girly voice*

It helps to moisurize just after you get out of the shower, while your skin is still wet. This is helping me battle these dastardly dry western winters.

lol.gif oldraven you crack me up! too funny! But what you said is really true. I live in the dryest climate in the world, I think! Sometimes putting on baby oil right after a shower really helps. I will have to get some of that Suave body wash though. That sounds really good. smile.gif

Posted by: 3Ravens 30-Dec-2003, 07:02 PM
I agree with AD. Any lotion or creme with hemp in it will help. Slather it on before bed and wear cotten socks or gloves (depending on what part of you was slathered!) Bodyshop has lots of nice products, and they are environmentaly friendly.
My Gramma used to melt and strain chicken fat, and use that on her skin. Depends on how you feel about animal products, I guess. wink.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 30-Dec-2003, 07:23 PM
hemp handcreme is a great thing.. I often need to work something containing fat into my hands to protect & heal them because I work with chemicals alot and I need my hands to feel if a surface is thoroughly dry.

Posted by: Annabelle 30-Dec-2003, 08:40 PM
OldRaven and Richard are just showing off their feminine side.

Annabelle

Posted by: Richard Bercot 30-Dec-2003, 10:29 PM
Just doing my job, no more, no less sweatdrop.gif

Posted by: Elspeth 31-Dec-2003, 09:12 AM
Anyone got any magic for chapped lips?

Posted by: oldraven 31-Dec-2003, 09:13 AM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Dec 30 2003, 07:40 PM)
OldRaven and Richard are just showing off their feminine side.

Annabelle

Tut-tut.

Richard's just watching. I'm just giving my input on the dry skin issue. Believe it or not, men get dry skin too. *gasp*


tongue.gif



p.s.
Even my feminine side has a beard.

Posted by: maisky 31-Dec-2003, 09:18 AM
QUOTE (Aon_Daonna @ Dec 30 2003, 08:23 PM)
hemp handcreme is a great thing.. I often need to work something containing fat into my hands to protect & heal them because I work with chemicals alot and I need my hands to feel if a surface is thoroughly dry.

Bear fat is good for this, too. biggrin.gif

Nothing like putting a sign "no men" on a thread to attract the men! laugh.gif

Posted by: JaneyMae 31-Dec-2003, 10:34 AM
Maisky, why am I not surprised to see you here lol.gif

I have a hemp lip ointment that is marvelous for lips as is plain ol' Blistex. Do like the hemp lip ointment and the hemp hand cream as well. Buy it from my neice. :-)

Posted by: Elspeth 31-Dec-2003, 10:49 AM
Blistex and chapstick just don't cut it for me unless I put it on every ten minutes. I need something good and lasting.
Does anyone know of a hemp lip ointment that I can buy? I'm not going with bear grease, but I have used the bag balm at night (it is mostly lanolin)

Posted by: JaneyMae 31-Dec-2003, 11:06 AM
QUOTE (Elspeth @ Dec 31 2003, 10:49 AM)
Blistex and chapstick just don't cut it for me unless I put it on every ten minutes. I need something good and lasting.
Does anyone know of a hemp lip ointment that I can buy? I'm not going with bear grease, but I have used the bag balm at night (it is mostly lanolin)

Can't remember the kind of hemp ointment I have. I'll look when I get to the valley today and let you know. It is lovely and long lasting. It's some bath and body product or some such thing. It doesn't just rub off like so many do and is very protective. thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: RavenWing 31-Dec-2003, 01:04 PM
QUOTE (Elspeth @ Dec 31 2003, 04:49 PM)
Blistex and chapstick just don't cut it for me unless I put it on every ten minutes. I need something good and lasting.
Does anyone know of a hemp lip ointment that I can buy? I'm not going with bear grease, but I have used the bag balm at night (it is mostly lanolin)

Burt's Bees lip balm is the best I have ever used.

You should be able to find it in a natural food store or something similar.


here's a http://www1.burtsbees.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=10126&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=10001

Posted by: RavenWing 31-Dec-2003, 01:07 PM
I forgot to mention that Burt's Bees has Bay Rum scented shaving and face products for the men out there reading this. My hubby uses it and it is wonderful.

Posted by: RavenWing 31-Dec-2003, 01:09 PM
I keep going on and on about this stuff, but the peppermint soap is great for campers.

OK, I'll shut up now wink.gif

Posted by: CelticRose 31-Dec-2003, 02:16 PM
RavenWing! You're too funny! Never shut up! I learn much from you! I forgot all about Burt's Bees. You can find it also of all places at the local Crackle Barrell restaurant! Really terrific stuff! I use their lip balm too RW.

I also like Aveeno products too.

Posted by: Annabelle 31-Dec-2003, 05:16 PM
Now who's on hormone therapy?

A

Posted by: Annabelle 31-Dec-2003, 05:23 PM
Maisky we put "women only" on here knowing there are some "soft" guys who like to listen. Some people call that "noisy body's" and really we know one of two things apply to you:
1. You are afraid we will chat about you
2. You might miss something so you enter here (ha ha)

Really we wait for all unprepared men who enter here and we catch and yoke them and put them to work doing our honey do lists. (evil laughter)
Well we've got you, Richard and OldRaven to start with. heeeeeeeeeee! death.gif evil.gif flex.gif

You are our's my pretties!
A

Posted by: CelticRose 31-Dec-2003, 05:46 PM
Annabelle! I am using Progest (progesterone)cream which is a natural progesterone. I am very much against taking Estrogen from all the reading I have done. Too much estrogen is what causes cancer and so I opted for natural progesterone cream. I know there is a bit of debate about all this. Just my tuppence. smile.gif

Posted by: JaneyMae 31-Dec-2003, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Dec 31 2003, 05:16 PM)
Now who's on hormone therapy?

A

Have been for 21 years. Keeps my fangs from growing and I don't have to shave nearly as often lol.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 31-Dec-2003, 07:56 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Dec 31 2003, 11:16 PM)
Now who's on hormone therapy?

A

Since I haven't actually went thru MEN. just starting unsure.gif so the dr. says, I take Black Cohosh to keep the flashes away. I'm not on any prescription meds. I do take alot of herbs and vitamins. I just started on Super Omega Complex with fish oil, borage oil, flax seed and CLA. It has the Omega-3-6-9 Fatty Acids. I also take a calcium supplement, since milk products and me don't get alone. Also green tea extract, boron, primrose oil which helps with the mood swings. One time I was a sweet person until the evil twin came out awhile back. wink.gif I also take saw palmetto. Good for your nerves and muscles. Also good for a man's prostate if any of you guys are interested. biggrin.gif Also I take Vitamin C.

This is a very enlightning place to visit. Ha! The guys just couldn't keep out. A typical male trait! flex.gif Can't live with them, but can't live without them. Bless their little pea pickin hearts.

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Elspeth 01-Jan-2004, 09:40 AM
OK guys - I'm giving you fair warning here. I'm about to start a discussion that isn't for the faint of heart. So here's your last chance - don't walk - run, screaming back to your fishing rods, your pints of ale and your dart boards before it's too late.

For any guys who didn't take my warning - you're on your own. No Apologies. cool.gif

I'm now 42 and things are beginning to change. I know there is this vast and mystical experience of menopause looming before me, beginning with what is now labeled premenopause.

Those of you who have gone through it or are going through it, what can I expect? Share your stories. And if you'd rather not share publicly, send me a pm. (not a pms laugh.gif )

This is where the old ways and customs are sorely missed. Women used to gather to perform tasks and talk. But we're now in the computer age, so we post.

OK, wise women - talk to me. But don't scare the pants off of me! fear.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 01-Jan-2004, 09:48 AM
They only got one shop in the US but more in Canada wink.gif
But thank goodness you can buy online as well. It's a bit expensive overseas but Ladies (& Gents) it's worth it.

http://www.lush.co.uk
The use natural ingredients whenever possible and their massage bars are soooo good, not talking of their soaps and all their other stuff.
If you have very sensitive skin (like my BF has) try the Fresh Farmacy. It's really really good for removing make up and stuff.

Also, don't be afraid of shampoo bars, they are class! their skin treatments are the right things to spoil yourself rotten, as I will do tomorrow, because I'm going to visit their shop on princes street and get all sorts of great and lovely stuff I have been missing for some time!

Posted by: valpal 59 01-Jan-2004, 12:05 PM
Hey Elspeth, I am 44 and started the premenopause about a year ago. Hormones really started going nuts. Night sweats came first. I really hate these. Then came the hot flashes in the day time. These really suck in the summer at work. (I manage a dry cleaners.) Almost passed out twice last summer. Next I have lost all control over my emotions. One extreme to the other. PMS is worse than it ever has been. It really takes everything I have not to be a total *****. I really feel sorry for Rob. It's not fun living with me at the moment. I don't like what I read about hormone therapy, so I bought New Phase at Wal-Mart. Supposed to be all natural. It took about a month to build up in my system,but it has helped. The night flashes are not as bad, Hot flashes don't come as often, and emotions have leveled out. (a little) I WANT THIS TO BE OVER NOW!!!!! LOL My mother said she was 50 when she was done. Hope this helps. Good Luck ! smile.gif

Posted by: CelticRose 01-Jan-2004, 03:34 PM
Hi Elspeth and ladies! I am 49 and like my sisters I started premenopause at age 40. I first noticed palpitations a lot. The mood swings, night sweats, hot flashes. There were times my emotions got so out of control I thought I was losing my mind! Plus, the weight gain! All of a sudden my metabolism slowed and I could no longer just eat anything I wanted! Then insomnia! Oh that was so terrible. One other thing, but I best PM you with that one with men reading this. wink.gif

I went the natural way with herbs and vitamins and natural progesterone cream. All that helped tremondously. I am now considered post-menopausal now and the worst of the symptoms are gone now......thank God! You do survive, believe it or not! wink.gif

Posted by: CelticRose 01-Jan-2004, 03:40 PM
Oh, I can't believe I forgot to mention this! the one major thing I went through was a period of re-evaluation of my life! I found I went through periods of regret for not having done things in my life and got really depressed. As a result I made some very positive changes. Maybe one of the reasons why they call it "the change." So some very positive things come out of the process as well. I am sure we can think of one big one ladies! wink.gif

Posted by: Siusaidh Blues 01-Jan-2004, 08:01 PM
Hey CelticRose - I figured I'd find you posting on this topic. We've discussed it before, haven't we??

What is it you said my symptoms indicated, 'peri-menopause' wasn't it? My menstrual cycle has been as predictable as can be, usually I can plot it on the calender and come within 2 days of when I actually 'start'... you know, though, actually in November it was a full week late then lasted like 8 days, longer than ususual and today I realized its late again...

Emotionally I feel like all veneer of politeness and reserve has been stripped off, to the point that I feel very impatient very quickly when usually I put up with too much from people. I'm much more likely to reply to what people say that annoys me with a sharp word now than ever before...
And I wake up nearly every morning as hot as if I had a fever! I do hate that...

Maybe I'm wandering into serious menopause now, what do you think?


Posted by: CelticRose 01-Jan-2004, 08:25 PM
Could be, Suisaidh! Everyone experience different symptoms, really. I didn't really have the hot flashes, but I did experience a lot of warmth when I used to be so cold natured before I hit the peri-menopause stage. and the irritability was awful!

when you get to my stage of post-menopause, there is no more worrying about menstrual cycles....lol! FREEDOM!!!! clap.gif

Now I wonder how many guys are reading this and laughing or barfing. Now for your men. You go through "the change" too, did you know? wink.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Elspeth 01-Jan-2004, 08:32 PM
Hey Celtic Rose - I warned the men not to enter this one. No sympathies if they read along anyway. biggrin.gif

Thanks for all the comments. I can feel things are changing, but in such vague ways I don't know if it is due to this biological stage or if I am just going insane. rolleyes.gif Could be either. laugh.gif

I haven't really experienced any of these things yet. Well maybe the stripping off of the polite veneer, then again that could be just from living with four kids and a husband fifth child. So, if anyone has any more comments, keep 'em coming.

Thanks

Posted by: CelticRose 01-Jan-2004, 08:39 PM
Elspeth! I am sure we will as we all go through this together! Nice to have the support, eh? thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 01-Jan-2004, 10:00 PM
Don't be surprized if one day you've had enough and rip someone's head off! Just hope it's someone who understands. unsure.gif

A woman can get really mean during this time in her life. If any of you guys are reading this...BEWARE ! ranting.gif Don't tell her you understand, because you don't.

I hope all you ladies have men that love you beyond anything imaginable. This really test your marriage. Back in July I got so mad at my one true love inlove.gif I ripped a door off the hinges. Needless to say, I've took alot of ribbing for that one. I'm always the mild mannered one who doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Things have changed!!! I'm waiting for the real me to move back in. wink.gif My husband is praying it's real soon.

Now ladies I 'm not saying you all will go thru this, we are all different. With me it's more of an emotional rollercoaster.

I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROAR!

MAGGIEMAHONE1


Posted by: CelticRose 01-Jan-2004, 10:17 PM
Maggie you are too funny! lol.gif I mean I know it it is not really funny as my poor hubby has had to deal with me! This was probably one of the worst times of my life and our marriage is me going through this, but Thank God. We both got through it and I am much better now that I am "post-menopausal." Life seems to be so much better now, even better than it has been. but during that time! wow! did I ever roar!

Posted by: oldraven 01-Jan-2004, 10:50 PM
QUOTE (CelticRose @ Jan 1 2004, 07:25 PM)
Now I wonder how many guys are reading this and laughing or barfing. Now for your men. You go through "the change" too, did you know? wink.gif laugh.gif

Yes, I knew that. Saw something about it on discovery, or something.

And this stuff is less scary than you think. Now that's not in invitation to go freakay on me, aight? wink.gif



BTW, I'm only here to laugh at what you ladies are saying about us intruding males.



Miri, Ange uses the Body Shop hemp hand cream, and I've tried it on some mild exima myself. Cleared it up in a flash. Another great part about these western winters. There's a Body Shop in the West Edmonton Mall that Ange goes to from time to time.

Posted by: CelticRose 01-Jan-2004, 11:00 PM
oldraven! Glad some males are learning things and will be properly prepared as to what us women go through! laugh.gif As well as get a good laugh and entertainment from us all! wink.gif

Hmm, must try the Body Shop! I have a tad bit of exzema from these dry desert climates. sounds like it would do wonders! smile.gif

Posted by: oldraven 01-Jan-2004, 11:13 PM
Hey It's Ang

Adam asked me to let you know about Hemp Cream from the body shop. I bought it for $15.00. My feet we're cracked and very dry from the move (change in climate). Anyway this stuff is awesome, it smells like (hippies) not weed. I think the you should be able to purchase it on there web site, if not I can give you their phone number here in Alberta and I am sure that they wouldn't have a problem shipping some, if you are interested. Just let Adam Know


Later Ang

Posted by: CelticRose 01-Jan-2004, 11:20 PM
Thanks very much Ang! We have the Body Shop in Phoenix here so I will check into it. If not, I might order on line. That might be the way to go. Most of the time ordering stuff on line is cheaper than driving all t he way to Phoenix. I will definitely check into this. Thank you!

Posted by: Richard Bercot 02-Jan-2004, 12:07 AM
QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ Jan 1 2004, 11:00 PM)
A woman can get really mean during this time in her life. If any of you guys are reading this...BEWARE ! ranting.gif Don't tell her you understand, because you don't.

Now I said I wasn't going to say anything here, but this time I have to.

I knew this was going to happen to my Wife because her's was surgically onset and she was given medication that was suppose to handle it. Did any one notice I said "SUPPOSE TO"?

I wound up, she had to take periodical injections to help control her hormonal balance. And every great now and then she would turn vicious and guy I am not saying that in a loving way either. She was down right mean. And it doesn't matter what you say even if you can see what is happening. All I would do was to tell her that it was time for her to see the Doctor again and in a couple weeks she would catch on to what I was saying and then make and appointment. But until then you just had to ride the wave and avoid her on anything that was involved with any kind of confrontation. Just go fishing, work in the yard or garage or what ever you do to get out of sight.

Luckily she is now taking some suppliment that seems to be really helping. One of them is Soy. Now how much, I cannot tell you yet because she is asleep and there is no way I am going to wake her up and ask. tongue.gif And when it comes to that, YES, I am Chicken.

It is better to be wise and alive than to be dumb and dead. thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: CelticRose 02-Jan-2004, 12:28 AM
Very right, friend Richard. You are our keeper of the thread! and better to stay away then be near us women folk who are going through this stuff... you poor guys1 I really do feel for you...seriously! smile.gif I know it is much worse on ourselves though who is going through it. It is not fun at all!

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 02-Jan-2004, 09:08 AM
I'm glad that my dearest still has some 20 years to get used to my moods before I'll get them years.. being pregnant is hard enough on us both because I got bad mood changes, I get totally mad in a flash and in the next second I'm the cuddliest person on earth.. it's weird.... happy.gif
poor wee him, he also never learned how to have a decent verbal fight, he always looks at me in horror when I start off (I dunno, must be the wee bit of italian in me that makes me go all theatrical *blush*)

That Hemp Handcreme is really good, I have 2 tubes in my polishing cupboard because the only way to get French Polish off your hands (and you have to work with at least one bare hand) is Methylated Spirits which are quite bad for the skin. That stuff heals cracked skin in a flash.
Same with lips btw, they got that marvellous lip-healing-stick, although I prefer the Vichy repair stick in winter, it's got a creamier texture.

If you have exzema you might also want to try "aqua non-hermal" which is a very light cream for everywhere, it helped alot with my cousins neurodermitis.

If you need mild soaps or face cleaners that are nice and mild I can only recommend lush again. I use their Fresh Farmacy face cleaner after a long day in the spray booth and it's great to get crusted varnish off my face without damaging my skin. Their fresh masks are a miracle!

http://www.lush.co.uk
found out yesterday that this link can't be opened with Mozilla

Posted by: Annabelle 02-Jan-2004, 11:49 AM
Don't you think the hardest thing is to make the guys we live with to understand the hormone thing is a chemical unbalance in the body. We are not responsible for it, it just happens. Then you go to the Dr or try the natural way and try to get it under control. The problem is hormones are not predicatable. It takes a while to figure out what it takes to make it right.
I hate the mood swings the most. I'm usually a pretty happy person but when the shift happens, I come out swinging. I usually try to get away from everyone cause I know I'm not at my best. I get a book and sit down and focus on getting quiet and not to say anything stupid or take off a head of two.
Anyone else feel pinned up inside sometimes?

Annabelle

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 02-Jan-2004, 03:29 PM
constantly happy.gif wink.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 02-Jan-2004, 06:51 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 2 2004, 05:49 PM)

I hate the mood swings the most. I'm usually a pretty happy person but when the shift happens, I come out swinging.  I usually try to get away from everyone cause I know I'm not at my best. I get a book and sit down and focus on getting quiet and not to say anything stupid or take off a head of two.
Anyone else feel pinned up inside sometimes?

Annabelle

Annabelle, I'm like you, I need my space. Lots and lots of space.

Aon, I've been with my dearest for 32 years, Honey child, when this stuff hits it's like nothing you have ever experienced and it's nothing like your honey has ever dealt with. Maybe by the time you have this to deal with, they will have come out with a magical cure and you'll be the sweet loving gal that you've always been. angel_not.gif

Richard, it's ok to be CHICKEN. Chicken is good sometimes, especially dealing with a woman on her way out! wink.gif

CelticRose, I'm glad you and your husband survived, you have given me hope! biggrin.gif

Ladies: war.gif

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 02-Jan-2004, 07:17 PM
*lol* that I am sweet and loving is a common misconception *grins* I throw temper tantrums like no one else (I'm great at porcellain throwing and theatrical measures like holding a knife to my neck happy.gif )

Naa, we still have quite some time, and who knows? we might split up in the time before I get that? *shrugs*

I suffer from depressions (inherited down my fathers side) and I have been in therapy about it for years.. I know what it means to fall into that big black hole. I hate it when that happens.


btw, all you ladies that are going through it I wish alot of luck and your hubbies alot of patience and things to do somewhere else happy.gif
I'm glad that I still have some time until I get there

Posted by: Roisin-Teagan 02-Jan-2004, 09:41 PM
Like Aon, I still have a while before the "Big Change". My mother who is turning 54 in March 2004 has been having hot flashes and huge mood swings (God help me!!!! I am the recipent of these changes). She denies them and pretends the room is just hotter or that I was being disrepectful, because she has been on hormone replacment therapy since '96. I hate to think what she would have experienced (I would have went through) if she didn't have the therapy. unsure.gif
What I've heard is that menopause is like a giant curve on a chart...it slowly rises, peaks, and then slowly falls; it can last for about ten years.

Now my Great-grandmother went through a lot, so I was told. It is reported that she went off the deep-end and took an axe and tried to chop down a huge old oak in her backyard.

Sometimes "The Change" feels like an impending doom, because it marks the beginning of an end. I saw a show on The Oprah show about menopause in which a woman doctor said it is just the start of another chapter in your life. She said we should embraced these changes and understand our bodies and realize the freedom we will have in post-menopause.

Thanks for sharing your experiences (Rosemary and Patti). I hope we are still intouch when my time comes.

angel_not.gif

Posted by: Shadows 02-Jan-2004, 09:51 PM
I have been monitoring this thread since it's inception a few weeks ago....

Ladies all I have to say is those of us "guys" that have lived in very close proximity to you might not understand all that happens to you at all times but we do understand and respect the changes you go through! I have been married for 30 years and 3 of my 6 kids are female... tell me something I don't know.... wink.gif

I do not profess to understand, but I do respect ( as I am sure your male companions do ) that you need your space and time...

My only question ( go ahead and hang me now... rolleyes.gif ) is do you offer the same to your male companions when they ask for space and time....

We are all complex creatures that have no control over the biology that happens to us and as soon as we realize that there is nothing that we can do to change that biology the better we can live together.

I for one do not care what you smear on your hair, paint on your face, or spray on your body... you are beautiful, you are woman! smile.gif

Posted by: elly 03-Jan-2004, 03:21 AM
Good response shadows, can`t speak for eveyone of course, but sometimes I think I forget what men go through living with us. rolleyes.gif

isn`t life interesting LOL thumbs_up.gif

Elly biggrin.gif

Posted by: Elspeth 03-Jan-2004, 05:26 AM
OK, maybe I'm just being cranky this morning but all this feeling sorry for the men we live with stuff is getting on my nerves.

I know different relationships - different circumstances.

But I have put up with 20 years of my husband's garbage, so if I go through ten years of 'changes' it's still only half the time I've already put in. With what I've already dealt with, I should be treated like a queen no matter what I dish out. biggrin.gif
Does this attitude signify it has already begun....... unsure.gif

And Shadows, my husband has all the space he wants. He takes it - with or without my blessing. However, I know he needs it, so he gets it. Damn wouldn't it be grand to be a man?

Posted by: Annabelle 03-Jan-2004, 08:52 AM
E, after taking the Gender Test on line it said I was a man, yuck! What do these tests know. Also I like being a girl. Even with the yucky parts.

You probably aren't really cranky this morning. Every one else is probably venting their problems on you. And the reason we get cranky is we get to feeling like we are titled "Bring your problems to me" posted on our foreheads. When we really just want someone to take ours too. Who do we go to? That's what girlfriends are for. Venting. We don't want them to do anything, just listen and shake their heads and agree with our "Bi*ching".

So fix yourself a cup of tea and tell everyone to give you a time out! And go to your corner!
I'm at work and right now I'd love to run away and play hooky. I've got ton's of stuff to do here but don't feel like doing anything. And to top it off I've got a sinus headache which doesn't help with all of the whinners that are coming in today.
A

Posted by: Annabelle 03-Jan-2004, 08:57 AM
Shadow I knew you were a whimp! Sneaking in here and reading. I knew you'd probablly feel left out! You'd better watch it these girls are talking "the big H" and you'd better hold on to your head.

A

Posted by: Annabelle 03-Jan-2004, 10:00 AM
Hey girls, did you notice the views into this topic are almost 400 with only 60 posting?

We've got some nosey guys on here! They want to share their feminie sides.
That or they just want to be educated into "what women really want"!
Remember the movie?

Pass the advil!

A

Posted by: Richard Bercot 03-Jan-2004, 11:50 AM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 3 2004, 11:00 AM)
Hey girls, did you notice the views into this topic are almost 400 with only 60 posting?

We've got some nosey guys on here! They want to share their feminie sides.
That or they just want to be educated into "what women really want"!
Remember the movie?

Pass the advil!

A

No Sis A, it is not that we are nosey, we just want the facts to be straight when you are talking about us. There is a lot of talk about how a woman goes through changes but you almost never see anything when a man goes through changes too.

Why is that, is it that us men don't want to be pampered during this time period of our life and that we just want to be left alone to deal with it ourself?

Just Food for Thought.

Posted by: Annabelle 03-Jan-2004, 12:06 PM
Men have their times too!
It's called Mental-pause for men! Here's the proof.

Girls, ever notice one day your husband comes thru the door and growls everything he says.

See it's his time of the month.

A

Richard you didn't think I'd let you get away with that did ya? I'm gonna tell mom on you.

Posted by: Richard Bercot 03-Jan-2004, 12:10 PM
See guys, Sis A is picking on me again. She is always telling mom everything on me. And I am such a good guy. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Irish Stepper 03-Jan-2004, 12:14 PM
Well the boys always did get into trouble for crashing in on the girls' slumber parties. tongue.gif

Posted by: Richard Bercot 03-Jan-2004, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (Irish Stepper @ Jan 3 2004, 01:14 PM)
Well the boys always did get into trouble for crashing in on the girls' slumber parties. tongue.gif

That was when we were boys, that was expected of us and you girls loved it Right? wink.gif

I think we would get in trouble now if we were to try it. tongue.gif

Posted by: Irish Stepper 03-Jan-2004, 12:28 PM
Yeah, but now it would be a different kind of trouble. tongue.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 03-Jan-2004, 02:22 PM
Richard, one thing I don't want to be and that is pampered. Just leave me in grief to dwell! wink.gif

Do any of you ladies that still have your menses get terribly hot right before your time? Usually that is when I get really moody and get in a really terrible mood. I should be ashamed, but I do believe my evil twin comes out. furious.gif I guess as you get older the PMS gets worst. It is so obvious that my daughters don't want to get around me. Of course, they can hightail it and run.

Gee Whiz, I'm have a century old, when does it stop? frusty.gif

gunsmilie.gif Let's Go Girls! bangin.gif

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Dreamer1 03-Jan-2004, 02:39 PM
Hi all!

I'm going to attempt to catch up a bit here, so please bear with me.....

To start way back--I've found that using a pumice stone on my rough heels didn't quite do the trick. There's a super thing out there called Badger Healing Balm that works like a charm in about 3-4 days! It has Virgin Olive Oil, Natural Beeswax, Castor Oil, Aloe Vera, and a couple other things I can't remember. The company's out of New Hampshire,and their web site is www.badgerbalm.com.

As to that "wonderful" Change that's coming in life, well I'm nearly 47 (not yet, though!!) and am still waiting for that to start - yes, waiting, wondering,almost hoping it will be soon. I'm doing the 2 weeks "on", 2 weeks "off" routine now as it is, but my doctor says I haven't started into the pre-Men stuff yet. Still, sometimes it seems like a rollercoaster ride here with only two weeks for the moods to adjust, then back full swing again. I really do pity my family, and try to keep a steady head! angel_not.gif Still, I figure I've done my part (we have two wonderful, precious daughters), I'm not going to have any more Thank You!, and I'm so tired of the 2-week long mess and moods that I'd just as soon have done with it already!! (Feel free to slap me if I'm just being selfish.) My mom was done at this point in her life, my younger sister is done now, my youngest sis is at the same place I am and agrees with me. My husband, however, is praying it comes much later because all his friends at work have told him their wives lost all interest in "you-know-what!" after M set in. No assurances on my part will assuage his worries there!

And that leads me to...YES!! guys have their own Change they go through!! No question about it, no matter how vehemently some try to deny it!! My hubby and I are the same age, so I'm a bit nervous knowing there will be a time when we're *both* going through some rough stuff! Heaven help us!

Have I basically caught up yet?? biggrin.gif I'll try not to be absent so long again, promise!


Posted by: CelticRose 03-Jan-2004, 03:28 PM
QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ Jan 3 2004, 03:22 PM)
Richard, one thing I don't want to be and that is pampered. Just leave me in grief to dwell! wink.gif

Do any of you ladies that still have your menses get terribly hot right before your time? Usually that is when I get really moody and get in a really terrible mood. I should be ashamed, but I do believe my evil twin comes out. furious.gif I guess as you get older the PMS gets worst. It is so obvious that my daughters don't want to get around me. Of course, they can hightail it and run.

Gee Whiz, I'm have a century old, when does it stop? frusty.gif

gunsmilie.gif Let's Go Girls! bangin.gif

maggiemahone1

Patti! I had that for years! The horrible PMS and the evil twin coming out during that time. My poor husband! Then when the menopause came, it was much worse! I thought I would go crazy. Sometimes I wanted to just run and go climb up a telephone pole! wacko.gif And boy! Did I ever and still need my space! Lots of it.....almost to the point of being a hermit....which my husband does call me, btw. laugh.gif

May I recommend a really good book for you all, women and men? It is called "The Wisdom of Menopause" by Kathrine Northrup, MD. It is an excellent book and prepares you for what to expect, affirms what you are going through and why and what you can do to try to help you. The book was a God send to me!

And also I think one of the hardest things for me to decide while going through all the menopause stuff was whether to choose the HRT or the natural herbs, vitamins and progesterone to try to get some relief. I kept my computer hot with doing all the research. I went through 10 years of hell! things are starting to finally calm down now. I still get warmer than others, but at least my emotions are far better in control.

Frankly, I think it is nice the guys are coming in here cause they can learn about what us women go through and can be informed and of sympathy to their wives and girlfriends. And I think the men should start a thread of their own so we can snoop and see what they go through! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Richard Bercot 03-Jan-2004, 04:03 PM
I don't try to be sympathetic, all I am trying to do is stay out of the way. wink.gif

I didn't get all of my Wisdom Hairs for being dumb. tongue.gif

Posted by: JaneyMae 03-Jan-2004, 04:17 PM
Can't believe the men who keep coming in here and reading the "women's" stuff! Amazing! cool2.gif

Menopause is one of the worst things I've had to endure in my lifetime! The hot flashes are rotten. My students hate freezing in my classroom because I tell them I'm hot and turn on the air conditioning. They can bring a coat, right?!? evil.gif

I need space and my husband of 35 years has figured that out. I give him his space when he needs it. He'd take it even if I didn't give it to him. He's learned to cut a wide path around me when my face is red. Kind of funny when I think about it. fyou.gif

I hate the fact that my hair is thinning and everything has succumbed to gravity! What's up with that? furious.gif

How was that for a rant? Did I do a good job? I can go on if anyone would like lol.gif

I know the menopause is for the birds! Men think they have it tough..........no wonder women are the ones who have kids cuz men couldn't do it king.gif

Posted by: JaneyMae 03-Jan-2004, 04:18 PM
QUOTE (Richard Bercot @ Jan 3 2004, 04:03 PM)
I don't try to be sympathetic, all I am trying to do is stay out of the way. wink.gif

I didn't get all of my Wisdom Hairs for being dumb. tongue.gif

Richard, You truly are wise lol.gif

Posted by: Shadows 03-Jan-2004, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 3 2004, 09:57 AM)
Shadow I knew you were a whimp! Sneaking in here and reading. I knew you'd probablly feel left out!  You'd better watch it these girls are talking "the big H" and you'd better hold on to your head.

A

Whimp? Don't think so! Sneaking, No to that to, I am a global moderator and it is part of what I do here.

I have a daughter that is almost twice your age young lady...and one who is your age...

She was the first natural birth at the hospital my wife and I went to, I was present at the birth and fought real hard with the nurses to leave the child with us so my wife could nurse her, that was unheard of at the time ( 1977 ) . I have also delivered one of my own kids at home ( this was my wifes choice !) I do have an understanding of what you go through ( my wife is now in menapause ) and respect woman, not all men do! And I am not looking for sympathy in my life changes. But am trying to understand more what women go through, we need each other in life through all its trials and tribulations. Make peace, not war!

Posted by: CelticRose 03-Jan-2004, 08:08 PM
Shadows! I appreciate all what you have to say and the input. You too Richard and oldraven! good to have male feedback, I say! beer_mug.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 03-Jan-2004, 10:05 PM
My dear ol' hubby says, "it's a time in life when men learn to COPE." Several of his good guy buddies that he grew up with and married before he did, are now divorced because they couldn't COPE with a menopausal wife. I'm glad that my hubby has learned to COPE, and he is bound to overcome! wink.gif He is such a sweetheart. NO woman on this earth can be as fortunate as I am. I LUV my Man!

I think it was Roison-Teagan that said her grandmother went and chopped down a tree during her 'time' in life. That might be some good advice. Instead of tearing a door off it's hinges, I'll just go outside and use my husband's chainsaw and cut down a tree or whatever, just don't get in my way! sly.gif

Richard, your a very wise man. Evidently your wife has taught you a lesson or two. laugh.gif

Oh JaneyMay, you rant and rave like a true woman should. You go girl! I say, the more you ranting.gif rant and rave, the better you'll feel. A man learns real fast to go the opposite direction when he see's a red faced woman coming with her finger pointed at him.

Annabelle I agree with you, Shadows is a Whimp! He trys to be all understanding and says the right things, we all know deep down he thinks we're all looney and we need to be carted off. tongue.gif Maybe we need to talk to his better half to see just how 'nice' he is. Just pickin at ya Shadows to see if your payin attention.

giljotiini.gif OFF with their heads.....

Everybody have a nice night!

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Elspeth 03-Jan-2004, 11:54 PM
Know what I hate? It's when people blame everything a woman says or does that is the least little bit confrontational on PMS or menopause. After all, we could never actually be justified in what we say, no God forbid, we must be hormonal.

I find at those times the things I get upset about are very justified, I just address them with less patience. Or I address things that otherwise I might let lie for the peace of the family.

I think I figured out why 40-year-old men leave their wives and chase after girls their daughter?s age. I just thought they liked looking like idiots. Now I know what they are running away from.

Well I was there every time my husband wigged out. It?s payback time. I hope he?s ready, but I doubt it. Silly boy, he thinks menopause is like a weekend event.

Richard, mom is mad at you. You better be nice to sis A. If not, remember how mad mom can get. The chainsaw's in the garage.

And Shadows, read along and comment all you want. Any man's who's been married 30 years and lives in a household of women and hasn't resorted to male idiocy has a right, in my opinion, to voice his observations.

So do you think the fact I went to Wal-Mart (in Ohio) this morning in short sleeves, without a coat and was still warm is a sign? biggrin.gif



Posted by: Roisin-Teagan 04-Jan-2004, 12:14 AM
QUOTE
Well I was there every time my husband wigged out. It?s payback time. I hope he?s ready, but I doubt it. Silly boy, he thinks menopause is like a weekend event.


Elspeth, your husband doesn't know it yet...but the ride has just started...he better buckle-up for the end of the highway---wherever that is? tongue.gif wink.gif

I better meet someone soon before I have my "time" so the man will be at least attached before I wig out on him. Hummm...I better go and purchase a few chainsaws, so I won't end up in divorce court or crimmal court. unsure.gif rolleyes.gif

As for you easedroppers...we women really appreciate your kernels of wisdom. Shadow your like our papa and Richard your like our annoying brother (just joking).

Roisin,
angel_not.gif

Posted by: andylucy 04-Jan-2004, 12:56 AM
And then, of course, there are those of us who simply man the listening posts to attempt to gain a little more insight into the wiles of the feminine side. biggrin.gif

Bye the bye, my better half has tried some of the ideas here for dry skin, especially the Oil of Olay body wash. She says it is awesome.

Back to my monitoring!! walkman.gif

Andy

Posted by: CelticRose 04-Jan-2004, 01:09 AM
lol.gif I absolutely love all these men coming in here! Even if it is to share body wash secrets! thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: Roisin-Teagan 04-Jan-2004, 01:21 AM
I think men secretly want to talk about these kinds of issues (dry skin, the best face cleanser, and other such girlie things), and we finally have given them an outlet without them loosing their macho exterior. laugh.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Richard Bercot 04-Jan-2004, 03:15 AM
QUOTE (Roisin-Teagan @ Jan 4 2004, 01:14 AM)
Richard your like our annoying brother.

biggrin.gif Yup, that sure sounds like me. tongue.gif

Posted by: CelticRose 04-Jan-2004, 03:29 AM
Richard! I am glad that you are our big brother! wink_kiss.gif

Posted by: Richard Bercot 04-Jan-2004, 04:01 AM
QUOTE (CelticRose @ Jan 4 2004, 04:29 AM)
Richard! I am glad that you are our big brother! wink_kiss.gif

Celtic Rose,

Thank you. It's Great to be Loved! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: andylucy 04-Jan-2004, 04:06 AM
QUOTE (Roisin-Teagan @ Jan 4 2004, 01:21 AM)
we finally have given them an outlet without them loosing their macho exterior. laugh.gif biggrin.gif

***smiles, shrugs, checks that his kilt is lying right, and then checks to make sure the seams of his hose are straight***

Posted by: Roisin-Teagan 04-Jan-2004, 07:41 AM
QUOTE (andylucy @ Jan 4 2004, 04:06 AM)
***smiles, shrugs, checks that his kilt is lying right, and then checks to make sure the seams of his hose are straight***

biggrin.gif As long as you don't have a slip under that kilt...Andylucy... laugh.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 04-Jan-2004, 08:12 AM
andylucy, I don't think that seam is straight on that left leg. It's a bit crooked. There is nothing no worst than a man with a crooked seam in his stocking. disgust.gif

vampire.gif maggiemahone1

Posted by: Shadows 04-Jan-2004, 08:35 AM
QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ Jan 3 2004, 11:05 PM)

Annabelle I agree with you, Shadows is a Whimp! He trys to be all understanding and says the right things, we all know deep down he thinks we're all looney and we need to be carted off. tongue.gif Maybe we need to talk to his better half to see just how 'nice' he is. Just pickin at ya Shadows to see if your payin attention.

giljotiini.gif OFF with their heads.....

Everybody have a nice night!

maggiemahone1

I am paying attention and the only opinion of how I treat woman that matters to me are those that are in my life. I have heard no complaints from them.

There is more to a woman then hormones!!!

Posted by: Shadows 04-Jan-2004, 09:22 AM
QUOTE (Roisin-Teagan @ Jan 4 2004, 01:14 AM)


As for you easedroppers...we women really appreciate your kernels of wisdom. Shadow your like our papa and Richard your like our annoying brother (just joking).

Roisin,
angel_not.gif

Funny..... wink.gif laugh.gif One of the other boards I participate on calls me Daddy Shadows... do I see a theme here? unsure.gif

Richard quite pulling your sisters hair and go to your room LOL!!!! laugh.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 04-Jan-2004, 09:29 AM
You were warned guys! angel_not.gif Women Issues....If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen! wink.gif biggrin.gif

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Shadows 04-Jan-2004, 09:30 AM
QUOTE (Roisin-Teagan @ Jan 4 2004, 02:21 AM)
I think men secretly want to talk about these kinds of issues (dry skin, the best face cleanser, and other such girlie things), and we finally have given them an outlet without them loosing their macho exterior. laugh.gif biggrin.gif

wink.gif Ok you asked for it biggrin.gif

My wife , after abusing her feet for many many years ( she would go out in the winter barefoot, her choice not mine ) and spending many years with the vasoline and sock treatment not working finaly listended to me....

I worked construction ( concrete to be exact ) for a winter season and learned real quick how to help cracked calused skin. I told her to buy a product called " CORN HUSKERS LOTION" and use it. It smells like hell but works great! She now has soft feet again wink.gif !


Posted by: jaynebylak 04-Jan-2004, 10:29 AM
Hello. In regard to the change. I hope I will be able to distinguish between how I am normal and when I change. The reason I say this is ...ever since I started menses at 14,,,I have had all the symptons usually caused by change of life.

I have always had night sweats...My body temperature is always hotter than normal. I stay 99 to 100 degrees all the time. My monthly always has been coming the time it is suppose to and staying the regular 7 days. I would also have hot flashes as I was growing up too.

I have always had emotional ups and downs. Ever since I was in my teens. Moma took me to doctor after doctor ...psychiatrist after psychiatrist. They all told her I was normal with my moods.

She then started taking me to gynacologist who monitored my period and moods for about 6 months to a year. The gave me a D and C. It didnt change what was going on with me.

I am 47 now. I would have thought I would have started by now. The woman in my family all started at 36 to 41 years old. I guess I might be one of the woman who the only change I experiance for this time is just to quite altogether with my period. Then I will know I am through with change.

Just a different situation over change .
Jayne



Posted by: JaneyMae 04-Jan-2004, 11:17 AM
QUOTE (Richard Bercot @ Jan 4 2004, 03:15 AM)
biggrin.gif Yup, that sure sounds like me. tongue.gif

I'm glad I have two big brothers here! How cool! cool2.gif

Posted by: valpal 59 04-Jan-2004, 12:36 PM
Saturday morning at 6:30 a.m., I had the worst hot flash I have ever had. I really wanted to crawl out of my skin. I ended up in the backyard with nothing on. (we have a 6 ft. metal fence and it was dark. Also 32 degrees.) wacko.gif I don't want to play anymore. furious.gif At least my mood swings are semi under control. lol.gif

Posted by: Elspeth 04-Jan-2004, 01:29 PM
QUOTE (Shadows @ Jan 4 2004, 10:30 AM)
My wife , after abusing her feet for many many years ( she would go out in the winter barefoot, her choice not mine ) and spending many years with the vasoline and sock treatment not working finaly listended to me....

I worked construction ( concrete to be exact ) for a winter season and learned real quick how to help cracked calused skin. I told her to buy a product called " CORN HUSKERS LOTION" and use it. It smells like hell but works great! She now has soft feet again wink.gif !

I do that too, go outside in the snow in my bare feet. biggrin.gif Why bother putting on shoes for the minute it will take me to reach the trash can? laugh.gif

I remember Corn Huskers - haven't seen it in years. Have to make a mental note to get some of that and the bee balm. Then again, that's assuming I will remember the mental note. Isn't the memory the first thing to go? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Richard Bercot 04-Jan-2004, 01:31 PM
QUOTE (Elspeth @ Jan 4 2004, 02:29 PM)
Isn't the memory the first thing to go? rolleyes.gif

Huh? unsure.gif

Posted by: Shadows 04-Jan-2004, 01:54 PM
QUOTE (Elspeth @ Jan 4 2004, 02:29 PM)

I do that too, go outside in the snow in my bare feet. biggrin.gif Why bother putting on shoes for the minute it will take me to reach the trash can? laugh.gif

I remember Corn Huskers - haven't seen it in years. Have to make a mental note to get some of that and the bee balm. Then again, that's assuming I will remember the mental note. Isn't the memory the first thing to go? rolleyes.gif

You misunderstand!!!! smile.gif I mean bare foot or flip flops everywhere and everywhere in the winter...

take the dog out in the snow... no shoes
go to the store....flip flops

and it goes on LOL!!!

Posted by: Elspeth 04-Jan-2004, 04:05 PM
OK, I draw the line at going to the store. biggrin.gif

Posted by: JaneyMae 04-Jan-2004, 08:16 PM
My doc had retired and I ran out of estrogen last fall. Was at the knee doc and having hot flashes something awful. He laughed and wrote a scrit for me for my happy pills and referred me to a good gyn. Life is better now. Don't wet may drawers when I sneeze anymore either. lol.gif I make light but it really isn't a laughing matter cry.gif

Posted by: Richard Bercot 04-Jan-2004, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (JaneyMae @ Jan 4 2004, 09:16 PM)
He laughed and wrote a scrit for me for my happy pills and referred me to a good gyn. Life is better now. Don't wet may drawers when I sneeze anymore either. lol.gif I make light but it really isn't a laughing matter cry.gif

I see I am not the only one who refers to them as Happy Pills. wink.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 04-Jan-2004, 08:51 PM
Okay guys were can I get the happy pills?

Second, what memory? I have a clip board and write everything down. I've been so over loaded that I've even called myself and left myself messages on my own answering machine. How sad! Annabelle has lost it somewhere!
Oh my, that's me! oops!

Well here's to my starting the diet tomorrow and back to the gym. Now if I can remember how to get there?

A

Posted by: Annabelle 04-Jan-2004, 08:52 PM
Does anyone else suffer from Migriane's?

A

Posted by: Roisin-Teagan 04-Jan-2004, 09:13 PM
I have migrianes something terrible...I can take any bright lights, loud noises, and I get sick to my stomach. When a bad one hits, I'm out for the count. The only thing that helps is going to bed in a dark, quiet room and sleep it off. sad.gif

Once I had a migriane all day that was so bad, but I was teaching at a high school and couldn't leave. I was sick to my stomach all that afternoon, but as my son and I drove home I... puke.gif. I couldn't pull over because I was on the Interstate, so my son held a Taco Bell paper cup up to my mouth while I drove 60 mph. Thank God it wasn't a barf like when you are sick with the Flu. Sorry for the imagery girls...but that's my migriane nightmare story.

Now, does anyone have any home remedies or great knowledge about some wonder drug that helps. angel_not.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 04-Jan-2004, 09:26 PM
I've been in bed all afternoon with another Migriane. It seems like everytime the barometric pressure changes I get one. I've been working alot in the last 3 days and that doesn't help but the pressure changes seem to also trigger them.
I've tried OTC drugs but none work. I'm now on Imitrex shots and a dark room for hours. Then I feel like I'm dragging when I get up. Shoulders are still stiff but head doesn't hurt.
Eucaliptus oil on my pillow helps a little and hot compresses on my face with rest. I don't know any home remedies but I'm open to any suggestions!

A

Posted by: JaneyMae 05-Jan-2004, 09:15 AM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 4 2004, 08:51 PM)
Okay guys were can I get the happy pills?

Second, what memory? I have a clip board and write everything down. I've been so over loaded that I've even called myself and left myself messages on my own answering machine. How sad! Annabelle has lost it somewhere!
Oh my, that's me! oops!

Well here's to my starting the diet tomorrow and back to the gym. Now if I can remember how to get there?

A

Happy pills are incredible things. Gives back the estrogen that nature steals. Help with memory too..........I think. laugh.gif

[QUOTE]I've been in bed all afternoon with another Migriane. [QUOTE]

Annabelle I do hope this passes quickly! I was getting 3 to 4 migraines a day before I had the plate put in my neck. Have some powerful pills that do the trick. Have only had 2 in the last year. Life is good.

Hang in there dear lady! beer_mug.gif doctor.gif

Posted by: oldraven 05-Jan-2004, 09:48 AM
QUOTE (Elspeth @ Jan 3 2004, 10:54 PM)
Know what I hate? It's when people blame everything a woman says or does that is the least little bit confrontational on PMS or menopause.

Thought I'd jump in here. I've never tagged a womans bitchiness on any of these factors, but I sure have heard them use that excuse a lot.

*ducks* continue pelting me with tomatoes. wink.gif

Posted by: oldraven 05-Jan-2004, 09:52 AM
QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ Jan 4 2004, 08:29 AM)
You were warned guys!  angel_not.gif  Women Issues....If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen! wink.gif  biggrin.gif

So you're saying a womans place is in the...........



KIDDING!!



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You make it too easy. All of a sudden, Richard is looking like the good brother. tongue.gif

Posted by: Richard Bercot 05-Jan-2004, 09:57 AM
QUOTE (oldraven @ Jan 5 2004, 10:52 AM)
So you're saying a womans place is in the...........



KIDDING!!



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You make it too easy.

KITCHEN? Is that what you meant Old Raven? naughty.gif

Posted by: oldraven 05-Jan-2004, 10:02 AM
NEVER! I wouldn't say something like that. And absolutely not in the womens thread. laugh.gif



Elspeth is going to eat me alive, isn't she. sad.gif

Posted by: Elspeth 05-Jan-2004, 10:53 AM
QUOTE (oldraven @ Jan 5 2004, 11:02 AM)
Elspeth is going to eat me alive, isn't she. sad.gif

Naw, an old raven is way too tough a bird for my taste. smile.gif

Besides, in the course of my vast years, I have, a time or two, eaten young crow. The taste, even of the young of the species is such that I have sworn off of all black-feathered flying creatures.

So, you're safe - from me. However, I won't speak for the others.....

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 05-Jan-2004, 10:54 AM
to all of yous with kids... are hot flashes normal in pregnancy?? I can't sleep without the window open and I'm sweating as if in the sauna when I want to sleep =(

btw: ma wee one get's into his active phase I think.. he seems to be thinking that when I lie down to sleep he needs motion.. *rolls eyes*

Posted by: Elspeth 05-Jan-2004, 11:06 AM
Oh, I miss those days, Miri. I remember lying in the tub and just watching the wee buggers move from side to side. I remember one Christmas sitting in a chair and resting a glass on my large stomach (he was born 5 days later at 10 pounds) and he decided to kick, almost knocking the glass out of my hand. He's still a little stinker. rolleyes.gif

I don't remember being all that hot, but I always like to sleep in a cold room. Just remember when it comes to hormones, nothing is *normal* biggrin.gif Just enjoy it.

The hardest part for me was always the sleep depravation after they are born. Prepare your little one's father now to take an active role so you can get some sleep. And if anyone ever offers to do something for you - let them!


Elspeth

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 05-Jan-2004, 11:14 AM
I intend to sleep *grins* because I will go on with my college course (he'll be the lucky one taking parental off-time and looking after the wee one at that time happy.gif)
Nothing anymore with staying up all night and getting up late in the morning *grins* it should make his life a bit more fun smile.gif

Posted by: RavenWing 05-Jan-2004, 12:04 PM
I am not pregnant, nor am I menopausal, but I have to have it cool in my bedroom or else I roast myself.

Posted by: Irish Stepper 05-Jan-2004, 12:12 PM
QUOTE (Aon_Daonna @ Jan 5 2004, 11:54 AM)
to all of yous with kids... are hot flashes normal in pregnancy?? I can't sleep without the window open and I'm sweating as if in the sauna when I want to sleep =(

Oh yeah...I used to wake up soaked with sweat in the middle of the night. It was also the first time in my life that I was warm in the winter. Usually, I'm freezing all the time and my hands and feet are always cold rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 05-Jan-2004, 02:59 PM
me aswell... just took a nap and I'm soaking again *doesn't like sweating much*

Posted by: Annabelle 05-Jan-2004, 03:00 PM
Aon how far are you in the Pregnancy? Due Date? Is this your first?

Well when I was pregnant with the Triplet's (yes you heard me right) I was always hot and then cold. The hormone's were crazy. Sometime's I'd get so hot that I'd take all of my clothing off and stand under the AC vent. One nigh I remember taking 12 showers I got over heated with them. Well think about it, you have 5 people in one bed you get hot. John, me and the triplets.

Good luck on the wee one!

Annabelle

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 05-Jan-2004, 03:07 PM
triplets! oh goodness gracious me! *hopes never to get there*
One is more than enough to me.. and the little idiot seems to be genuinely to want to make me suffer *sighs*

I'm in my third month now.. And yes, it's my first and it was unplanned as well. Ma wee accident happy.gif We planned getting on with it after my college course and after I worked for a wee bit. Ah well, happened, and that's it.

Posted by: Annabelle 05-Jan-2004, 03:17 PM
Aon you should start feeling like your ole self pretty soon. The closer you get to the fourth month the better you'll feel hopefully. Just get plenty of rest when you can and put your feet up.
By the fourth month you should be able to have a B-scan (ultrasound) done and you can put a name with that little pain person. The first 3 month's are very uncomfortable. But it does get better. Hang in there.

Job's and career are always there for you. I finished my nursing degree after I had my first child. I was headed for the University of SC Medical School when I found out I was pregnant with him. Although I was upset cause I had competed to get in I found I could get everything done even though my schedule had to be readjusted. I had 4 great kids and I still got those things accomplished plus more.
You are going to do great at all the things you want to do. Just have to re-do the schedule, it's no big deal. Right now it seems like it is but things have a way of working themselves out.
A

Posted by: Annabelle 05-Jan-2004, 03:19 PM
You know something that is really bothering me is my hands are so swollen every morning I wake up. I go to bed and my rings are loose. I can feel the swelling in my hands every morning I wake up lately. I hope it's just the stuff I've been eating that has caused this. Anyone else have swelling problems?
A

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 05-Jan-2004, 03:42 PM
well, the first two were awful.. but I'm getting there.
I don't want to know what it is though.. although I'm very sure it's a boy.
But I'd rather be surprised =)

Swollen hands.. do you use a hand lotion or something like that before you go to bed? Since you said it's in the morning. Maybe try not doing that for a while to try. It might be something in the lotion or creme that your skin reacts on.
Take your rings off before you go to bed as well.

When your hands are swollen try a cooling gel on your hands or something... can't think of anything else. It can be something you eat or something in cosmetica... my mother has problems with her eyes, they swell badly if she uses the wrong make up and crémes.
I also can only use certain brands of make up.

Posted by: Annabelle 05-Jan-2004, 03:47 PM
I haden't thought of the hand lotion I'm using. I just got a Eucaliptus Hemp Lotion from the health food store and started putting it on my feet and hands every night. I never thought about it. I'll try a couple of nights to see if that could be it. Thanks.
A

Posted by: Irish Stepper 05-Jan-2004, 05:13 PM
I have the problem with my hands swelling. Especially in the summer time. It seems the women in our family don't sweat like we're supposed to, so when we get overheated our hands swell up (although I sweat more than my mother does rolleyes.gif ). I find that if I get too warm during the night (especially in the winter when I like to snuggle up in sweats and a warm bed), I wake up with puffy fingers. Sometimes they're so bad that it hurts to close my hands tight.

What's wierd is that my hands are normally cold all of the time. It's only when they get hot that they swell up...go figure!! rolleyes.gif

The only thing I've found to help is to soak them in cold water, or just run cold water over them for a minute or so. It helps reduce the swelling.

Posted by: maggiemahone1 05-Jan-2004, 05:15 PM
BEWARE... oldraven the last crow I killed for supper, after I chopped his head off and watched him flop all over the place, I dipped him in scalding water and plucked his feathers and then I used a lighter to singe all those fine little hairs off him. Then I took my sharpest knife and split him down the middle and gutted him. Took his entrails out and fed them to the alligators.


HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A RAGING HORMONAL WOMAN!

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Annabelle 05-Jan-2004, 05:23 PM
So you think the not sweating could be of import? The swelling in hands only is terrible.
A

Posted by: Annabelle 05-Jan-2004, 05:25 PM
Maggie it's Raven we have been after. OldRaven is the sweet one. Raven is a tuff ole bird that likes to hover and tease folks. I've decided to adopt him. Kill him with kindness. (Maybe even throw him into the pot when he's not looking) he he evil laughter.
A

Posted by: Irish Stepper 05-Jan-2004, 05:36 PM
I'm not sure. Like I said, I seem to sweat pretty normally (unlike my mother), but for whatever reason, my hands swell up when I get hot. Summer time when I'm outside; Winter time when I get up in the mornings after being dressed warmly for bed; and during my Irish Dance classes. Of course in class, we sweat our butts off, but we also have to keep our hands down to our sides, so I guess the blood runs down to them. Between dances I put my hands on my head and it seems to help some.

Other than it being hereditary, I'm not sure what the cause is. I just know what triggers it in me. unsure.gif

If it only happens some of the time, then you might want to try remembering everything you did the night before and write it down in a journal. Just like with headaches and such. You might find a common thing that might be triggering it. huh.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 05-Jan-2004, 05:37 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 5 2004, 02:52 AM)
Does anyone else suffer from Migriane's?

A

I haven't had a migraine in almost a year. clap.gif I do get really bad headaches around menses plus I have two bulging disk in the cervical spine and that doesn't help things.

My hands are usually swelled in the morning and by evening they have went down to their normal size. unsure.gif

JaneyMay, You mentioned that you have shrunk a little. A study was just done and don't ya know if your measured in the morning you're 1/2 inch taller than you are in the evening.

maggiemahone1


Posted by: maggiemahone1 05-Jan-2004, 06:14 PM
QUOTE (oldraven @ Jan 5 2004, 03:48 PM)
Thought I'd jump in here. I've never tagged a womans bitchiness on any of these factors, but I sure have heard them use that excuse a lot.

*ducks* continue pelting me with tomatoes. wink.gif

Annabelle, I'm looking for that nice guy you mentioned. I'm still searching! ...MaggieM goes on an oldraven hunt...

I'm gonna pelt you with an old rotten smelly potato.

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Elspeth 05-Jan-2004, 09:19 PM
You get him maggiemahone biggrin.gif That's one oldraven that better learn his manners before a lady. laugh.gif

Posted by: Dreamer1 05-Jan-2004, 09:53 PM
QUOTE (oldraven @ Jan 5 2004, 11:02 AM)
NEVER! I wouldn't say something like that. And absolutely not in the womens thread. laugh.gif



Elspeth is going to eat me alive, isn't she.  sad.gif

OOH YEAH! Can't belieeeve you said that!! Your best move right now..... bag.gif

(Good Luck!)
Dreamer1

Posted by: CelticRose 05-Jan-2004, 10:14 PM
I love this thread! I have a lot of the same issues....ahem, except pregnancy.... but I learn so much from you all. I, too have the same issue with swollen hands when it is warm outside or if I don't drink enough water the day before. I find that if I drink a lot of water the day before, my rings are loose in the morning. Just a thought. Hmmm, I should take my rings off before I go to bed. That's a good idea. Thanks! smile.gif

Posted by: Dreamer1 05-Jan-2004, 10:15 PM
QUOTE (Aon_Daonna @ Jan 5 2004, 11:54 AM)
to all of yous with kids... are hot flashes normal in pregnancy?? I can't sleep without the window open and I'm sweating as if in the sauna when I want to sleep =(


Aon,

I only had them a couple of times, both overnight and it surprised me because I'm the one who's usually under about 4 blankets and a couple of afghans. The thing that bothered me most was the sudden racing heart, or the fluttering heartbeats. They weren't very strong, usually, but always seemed to come out of the blue (as I was resting or even waking me up at night). I still have both symptoms occasionally, even though it's been almost 9 years since our youngest was born. Pregnancy changes so many things, but the Good *far* outweighs the bad!

Dreamer1

Posted by: Annabelle 05-Jan-2004, 10:51 PM
Dreamer Girl how correct you are. I totally agree. The good out weighs the bad. Looking at that beautiful new life gives you such an attitude change in all things. Gosh it's got to be the best feeling you will ever experience.

Dreamer and Elspeth and I all have lots of kids to testify that kids are the best thing that will ever happen in your life.

A

Posted by: Annabelle 05-Jan-2004, 10:57 PM
Girls did you notice the guys are peaking in here again. At least we've got a few pretty strong guys that do join us. At this posting we had 134 replies and 889 views. The silent ones are afraid their going to miss something. I've got warm hand lotion for all of us in here. Get Richard and Oldraven and we will try it on them first.

A

Posted by: CelticRose 06-Jan-2004, 01:29 AM
I think it is great the guys are in there. They can learn from us and they have information to offer as well! After all, most of them live with women and have to deal with women's issues! cool.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 06-Jan-2004, 07:51 AM
I don't like sweating.. I hate waking up and I'm soaking.. usually I wake up because of that. Trying to sleep in summer is hell for me =/
I'm not complaining because I feel way better already, they stuck me into hospital because my morningsickness was so bad =/

Well, what's the problem with cosmetica for me and my mother is parfumes and such in it, or ingredients to make things smoother (mostly found in cheap stuff). That and a large amount of dust makes my eyes puff up really badly (my mom's got it even worse! and thank boots for the "wake-up eye-cream" that stuff works wonders on my eyes when they are swollen)

It's quite normal that hands puff up a bit at night, and when you wear rings that can sometimes hinder the bloodflow so they remain swollen.

Pharmacies can make handcreams for you that will be great for your hands if they react a bit sensitive to certain ingredients. Just ask them (well in germany they do, here I got the bodyshop and I know definitly that I don't react to their stuff because they don't use much of those things anyway).

ooh.. there he went again *feels her belly*

Posted by: Richard Bercot 06-Jan-2004, 08:11 AM
QUOTE (CelticRose @ Jan 6 2004, 02:29 AM)
I think it is great the guys are in there. They can learn from us and they have information to offer as well!  After all, most of them live with women and have to deal with women's issues!  cool.gif

We are just here to remind you about yourselves that you do not see. wink.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 06-Jan-2004, 08:22 AM
just as well you never said anything about "better selves" or something like that. I would have been forced to get nasty happy.gif

Posted by: Richard Bercot 06-Jan-2004, 08:27 AM
QUOTE (Aon_Daonna @ Jan 6 2004, 09:22 AM)
just as well you never said anything about "better selves" or something like that. I would have been forced to get nasty happy.gif

Promises, promises, promises. Is that all I am going to hear? tongue.gif

Posted by: maisky 06-Jan-2004, 08:35 AM
QUOTE (CelticRose @ Jan 6 2004, 02:29 AM)
I think it is great the guys are in there. They can learn from us and they have information to offer as well! After all, most of them live with women and have to deal with women's issues! cool.gif

We are here to seek your wise words, OH GREAT SAGE! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 06-Jan-2004, 09:04 AM
You don't want me to get nasty, richard *wicked smile* You'd like me better the way I am noo happy.gif

Posted by: oldraven 06-Jan-2004, 09:05 AM
Yar, I've pissed off the mob. laugh.gif And I didn't even finish the joke.

Well, Annabelle, I've got my own hand lotion, thank you. It's so dry out here that they shrivel up and crack. So all you dudes can laugh on, but just know.................. I don't know.

And Richard's right. When women get together to talk, they can never do any wrong. In their eyes that is. We'll just remind you of the dark side of every woman. Oh, and you've all got one. tongue.gif





I'd better initiate a group hug, before I get stuck on a spit. hug.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 06-Jan-2004, 09:15 AM
Well back to girl talk, the other night we were watching a TV show and the commercial was a diet ad. It brought up dimples in women's cheeks. (I'm not talking about the face ok)
Suddenly my husband turned to me and asked "Do most women get dimple's in their cheeks?"
Like am I going to the gym and look at everyone's fanny? I don't think so. I found this funny that he would even wonder but I thought it was funny. What are these commercials saying now? What thought's are people getting? Are we attacking women to get them to diet? What are we all coming to? Do we all live only to obtain a beautiful body?
I think it's important to be healthy. If you are a couple of pounds over weight that's no big deal. But I'm already sick of diet ads.
A

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 06-Jan-2004, 09:25 AM
sick of diet ads?
I'm sick of hyperthin models (those stick forms that blow away after a bit of wind) and the whole ideal of women today =/

I have broad hips, inherited through my family and I actually don't mind. I'm not into all those fashionable clothes and such, but other ppl are and they might have low self esteem. Showing a girl what the ideal figure is in every magazine is not really a great way to raise that self esteem.

Dieting can be really dangerous, especially when it's an unsupervised low-carbohydrate diet and such. There are other ways to get weight down

*ramble*

I got the ideal figure for renaissance & baroque clothes: broad hips, a really thin waist and such. I'm aware of that and I take alot of pride into my selection of clothes, I don't mind walking around in a medieval style dress or a corset (not atm though wink.gif )

Posted by: RavenWing 06-Jan-2004, 10:07 AM
I should be president of the "big girl's club". You could say I am "rubenesque". wink.gif I have got to agree with you all. I hate seeing the wafer thin models who are airbrushed and digitally altered on top of how skinny they are. I will never be "thin". I like being bigger, I like having a shape, I like having "boobs" and hips.

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 06-Jan-2004, 10:41 AM
I don't have much boobs but I defintly have shape.

In my personal aesthetic view I prefer women with shape to anything bony. I think that women just have to have some fat and some wobbly bits, I will always prefer "rubenesque" or "Baroque" women to todays standart.

Same with tan's btw, did you ever notice that ppl that tan themselves look older much quicker? I stay out of the sun or in the shadow, simply because I think a light skin tone is much nicer =)

Posted by: RavenWing 06-Jan-2004, 11:48 AM
I stay out of the sun just because my skin is so fair it turns lobster red. My skin is so pale that the lightest shades of make up are still to dark for me. (well, except for my freckels. I hate those censored.gif )

Posted by: Siusaidh Blues 06-Jan-2004, 01:00 PM
QUOTE (RavenWing @ Jan 6 2004, 11:07 AM)
I should be president of the "big girl's club". You could say I am "rubenesque". wink.gif I have got to agree with you all. I hate seeing the wafer thin models who are airbrushed and digitally altered on top of how skinny they are. I will never be "thin". I like being bigger, I like having a shape, I like having "boobs" and hips.

There is nothing to be envied about those thin chicks the media says we all ought to want to look like. If some one is naturally thin, okay, but to made the other 3/4s of the women of the world feel like they don't measure up - that's not fair. What did I read somewhere, Marilyn Monroe was a size 14?? That's no petite, ya'll, and she was gorgeous.

You may not realize how right you are, about the airbrushed models & digital alteration... my father-in-law worked for an Atlanta printing company for many years. One day he saw a photo of four thin models in a magazine ad my sister-in-law was looking at, and he sat down & said 'Okay, look at this...'
He proceeded to point out all the areas his trained eye could see had been altered! Their hips had been narrowed; their legs lengthened; all circles or shadows under their eyes had been erased! He laughed, and said there was no need for us to grieve over not looking like those girls do because they don't really look like that either!
rolleyes.gif


Posted by: Annabelle 06-Jan-2004, 02:12 PM
Well I've never been considered boney so always being a size 7-9 as a young lady and then after having children I went to 12-14's and now I'm in 16's. Yuck! I'd like to lose about 25 pounds. Once I go into training I usually lose it but I'd like to be termed as "skinny" one time. Better take a picture if I ever do cause it would be the only time I'd be "skinny".

A

Posted by: Roisin-Teagan 06-Jan-2004, 03:21 PM
Have you ever really looked at these skinny models in a bathing suit? Especially in a Vogue or Cosmo magazine...their bodies are so skinny that they look like women from a concentration camp in bathing suits.jawdrop.gif There is absolutly no fat anywhere. The only thing is when these "beautiful" women get older, say around in their late 40s or 50s they will most likely look 10 to 15 years older. From what I hear a little fat in your face holds up your skin and keeps the wrinkles from setting in too early.

I think sizes 10 to 14 is more natural for a woman. Just look a Marilyn Monroe (spelling?)...she was a size 14 when she sang to Pres. JFK "Happy Birthday Mister President," and she was consider a sex symbol.

The most important thing is that you are healthy and your weight is proportioned to your size. In America this distorted body-image of what a woman is suppose to look like in order to be considered beautiful or acceptable is Poppycock! I think most men want some curves on their women...at least this is what I've been told?? As for my brother, he says some curves are nice on a woman, but not five rolls and a loaf.

As for me, I want to get healthy and back to my right size of 12. I've been on the Atkins and have lost 20 pounds. I've stalled for the holidays, but now I back on the eating plan.

angel_not.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 06-Jan-2004, 03:43 PM
well, one type of women I really think is gorgeous is Tizian's Judith =) as well as I love the Italian Matrone-type.. great!

Posted by: maggiemahone1 06-Jan-2004, 06:42 PM
Congratulations on dropping the 20 pounds, Roisin-Teagan. thumbs_up.gif



I'm being nice today! biggrin.gif I believe the real me is out, thank goodness! That evil twin scares me. I don't know how many times I've lost my wings because of her. sadangel.gif

Ok guys, I'm back to my ever lovin' sweet self. I'm not trying to catch crow now! I don't know how long this will last. Could be just an overnight thing!

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 06-Jan-2004, 07:10 PM
hehe.. maggie we'll like you even if you get taken over by that nasty other self =) at least I do.

Posted by: JaneyMae 06-Jan-2004, 08:15 PM
I hate boney models but would love to be a wee bit thinner. Skinney women? My husband said he likes to hang on to a woman who can be snuggled and isn't just boney (I spent a long period of my life in this category). I've earned every dimple in my fanny, white hair on my head and all the love handles around. I cannot go braless but never could. So, tired of diet ads with skinny, boney women? You bet!

Posted by: Annabelle 06-Jan-2004, 08:33 PM
Me too JaneyMae, I hate those skinny women ads. They aren't real. They aren't real....I keep hoping the aren't real...

A

Posted by: Richard Bercot 06-Jan-2004, 09:58 PM
QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ Jan 6 2004, 07:42 PM)
Congratulations on dropping the 20 pounds, Roisin-Teagan. thumbsup.gif



I'm being nice today! biggrin.gif I believe the real me is out, thank goodness! That evil twin scares me. I don't know how many times I've lost my wings because of her. sadangel.gif

Ok guys, I'm back to my ever lovin' sweet self. I'm not trying to catch crow now! I don't know how long this will last. Could be just an overnight thing!

maggiemahone1

OK, is it safe? (as I stand here peaking around the corner) lookaround.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 06-Jan-2004, 10:01 PM
I like the evil Maggie. She's alot more fun! Bring her back, right now or I'll stomp and throw a huge fit...
oh well since I do that all of the time no one ever listens.

A

Posted by: Roisin-Teagan 07-Jan-2004, 05:31 AM
Hey Mama Maggie, keep your evil twin handy...you'll never know when the boys will act up? wink.gif biggrin.gif

Thanks for the encouragement about my weightloss...I need it. I only want to be healthy and feel good in my own skin. angel_not.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 07-Jan-2004, 08:00 AM
ooh girls, you so make me laugh when you refer to Fannies & dimples in them... because a fanny over here is an idiot (well, actually it's the female reproductionary tract) happy.gif

Posted by: oldraven 07-Jan-2004, 09:04 AM
QUOTE (Aon_Daonna @ Jan 7 2004, 07:00 AM)
ooh girls, you so make me laugh when you refer to Fannies & dimples in them... because a fanny over here is an idiot (well, actually it's the female reproductionary tract) happy.gif

laugh.gif That popped into my head too. The UK has an odd use for the word fanny. They put it on the wrong side.

Posted by: JaneyMae 07-Jan-2004, 09:06 AM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 6 2004, 08:33 PM)
Me too JaneyMae, I hate those skinny women ads. They aren't real. They aren't real....I keep hoping the aren't real...

A

Wow, Annabelle, I sure hope they aren't real unsure.gif What a terrifying thought!!


Maggie, I like your evil twin. We had coffee together the other day and made plans on how to deal with the men who keep peeking in here to see what the women were up to. msncoffecup.gif giljotiini.gif

Posted by: JaneyMae 07-Jan-2004, 09:17 AM
QUOTE (oldraven @ Jan 7 2004, 09:04 AM)
laugh.gif That popped into my head too. The UK has an odd use for the word fanny. They put it on the wrong side.

Fannies? Idiots? other side of the body? Sounds like something a man would come up with! thumbdown.gif cheers.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 07-Jan-2004, 09:51 AM
Mmh.. probably a man would be finding it very insulting to be called a Vagina.. *blinks*

I just need to grin everytime I read that word in the forum

Posted by: Siusaidh Blues 07-Jan-2004, 10:26 AM
QUOTE (oldraven @ Jan 7 2004, 10:04 AM)
The UK has an odd use for the word fanny. They put it on the wrong side.

I am so glad some England friends warned me about that difference in wording too, because I was bringing along on my trip what we in the states call a 'fanny pack' - they told me if I referred to my hip pouch/pack as that, I'd get some strange stares! laugh.gif


Posted by: Aon_Daonna 07-Jan-2004, 10:31 AM
hehe, I experience that about everyday, I often word things weirdly because english isn't my native language and scottish differs from that. I often send Craig into laughing fits happy.gif

Posted by: oldraven 07-Jan-2004, 10:48 AM
QUOTE (JaneyMae @ Jan 7 2004, 08:17 AM)
Fannies? Idiots? other side of the body? Sounds like something a man would come up with! thumbdown.gif cheers.gif

Hey, don't blame me. I never wrote the lingo. king.gif

Posted by: JaneyMae 07-Jan-2004, 12:18 PM
QUOTE (oldraven @ Jan 7 2004, 10:48 AM)
Hey, don't blame me. I never wrote the lingo. king.gif

Oh sure, try to get out of it............I know you did it! flex.gif You are a man, aren't you? fish.gif *she says laughingly as she goes back to actually trying to teach*

Posted by: oldraven 07-Jan-2004, 12:43 PM
QUOTE (JaneyMae @ Jan 7 2004, 11:18 AM)
flex.gif You are a man, aren't you? fish.gif *she says laughingly as she goes back to actually trying to teach*

You say that like it's a bad thing. tongue.gif

Posted by: Richard Bercot 07-Jan-2004, 05:11 PM
QUOTE (oldraven @ Jan 7 2004, 01:43 PM)
You say that like it's a bad thing. tongue.gif

Just consider the source! lol.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 07-Jan-2004, 07:34 PM
Fanny pack? What do they call it in the UK?
Lost me in all that.

A

Posted by: maggiemahone1 07-Jan-2004, 07:47 PM
There's nothing wrong with having a few curves. Those days of 115 pounds are over. I think I deserve a few extra pounds. Good grief, I bore 3 children. What does this world want? wacko.gif

Hello All, Fanny, fanny, fanny! lol.gif

Hey girls, have any of you ordered from Yves Rocher? It's a skin care, bath and body care, fragrance and makeup magazine.

maggiemahone1

Posted by: JaneyMae 07-Jan-2004, 08:36 PM
I don't mind weighing a bit more but not a 1/2 ton no.gif We all deserve a few extra pounds, especially when we've had kids! It's the men who want us to be built like Twiggy. lol.gif

Are the Yves Rocher products good?

Posted by: CelticRose 07-Jan-2004, 09:17 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 7 2004, 08:34 PM)
Fanny pack? What do they call it in the UK?
Lost me in all that.

A

Annabelle, from what my Brit friends told me was that "fanny" in the UK means vagina and you would never use that word in public! They call the lower posterior of our bodies "bum." A fanny pack over there would be referred to as a "hip pouch/pack." That's what I was told anyway. angel_not.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 07-Jan-2004, 10:48 PM
Oh, no wonder it's taboo! Thanks for the explanation...I had no idea about the fanny pack. I knew "Bum" fur de other had no idea.

A

Posted by: CelticRose 07-Jan-2004, 11:02 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 7 2004, 11:48 PM)
Oh, no wonder it's taboo! Thanks for the explanation...I had no idea about the fanny pack. I knew "Bum" fur de other had no idea.

A

Annabelle! I had to learn this the hard way! Friends of mine from Britian were aghast and laughed at me so much over this! I had to tell them that hey! It is a word here we use for bum all the time, so there! wink.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 08-Jan-2004, 09:42 AM
hehe well I got to know that word as a name for idiots first.. but Craig explained and I was quite flabberghasted by that (flabberghasted, such a cool word!)

I wouldn't give too much on Yves Rocher, if you want good nature based products use the bodyshop or lush!

Posted by: Roisin-Teagan 08-Jan-2004, 09:46 AM
QUOTE (CelticRose @ Jan 7 2004, 11:02 PM)
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 7 2004, 11:48 PM)
Oh, no wonder it's taboo! Thanks for the explanation...I had no idea about the fanny pack. I knew "Bum" fur de other had no idea.

A

Annabelle! I had to learn this the hard way! Friends of mine from Britian were aghast and laughed at me so much over this! I had to tell them that hey! It is a word here we use for bum all the time, so there! wink.gif laugh.gif

I wonder how many other words we Americans say that have a totally different meaning for the British? Especially any that are taboo? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 08-Jan-2004, 09:50 AM
hehe I could count up a whole lot that American's find disgusting and that are totally normal everyday use here happy.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 08-Jan-2004, 09:51 AM
I use to have a book that gave words in the UK usage and converted it to American slang. Can't seem to put my hands on it but I remember there were some goodies in there.

A

Posted by: gaberlunzie 08-Jan-2004, 09:52 AM
I'd agree with Aon Daonna;

I tested products of Yves Rocher for several months . I was looking for really good cosmetics for my face skin...had a bad allergy to several ingredients.

My experience is that you will get better products in the bodyshop; of better quality I mean. For Yves Rocher products you'll have to pay too much for less quality.

gaberlunzie

Posted by: Annabelle 08-Jan-2004, 10:00 AM
I'm so glad we started talking about this. I was going to buy and try the Rocher products. They are super expensive. I'll save my money. Thanks.

Annabelle

Posted by: JaneyMae 08-Jan-2004, 11:07 AM
QUOTE (Roisin-Teagan @ Jan 8 2004, 09:46 AM)
QUOTE (CelticRose @ Jan 7 2004, 11:02 PM)
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 7 2004, 11:48 PM)
Oh, no wonder it's taboo! Thanks for the explanation...I had no idea about the fanny pack. I knew "Bum" fur de other had no idea.

A

Annabelle! I had to learn this the hard way! Friends of mine from Britian were aghast and laughed at me so much over this! I had to tell them that hey! It is a word here we use for bum all the time, so there! wink.gif laugh.gif

I wonder how many other words we Americans say that have a totally different meaning for the British? Especially any that are taboo? rolleyes.gif

My girlfriend smokes "fags" and she's always going to "knock me up in the morning." lol.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 08-Jan-2004, 04:21 PM
*grins* an american friend of mine sent me over a picture of a very weird looking man. Under the picture there was "You're a fag!"

I was very confused about that until he cleared it up for me =)

Posted by: oldraven 08-Jan-2004, 05:59 PM
QUOTE (Aon_Daonna @ Jan 8 2004, 03:21 PM)
*grins* an american friend of mine sent me over a picture of a very weird looking man. Under the picture there was "You're a fag!"

I was very confused about that until he cleared it up for me =)

Then your friend has a bad sense of humour. dry.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 08-Jan-2004, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the info on the Yves Rocher products. I'll know not to buy anything.

Ok girls who has peeped into the guys locker room? I'm trying to stay out. wink.gif

I think more guys have been here than have posted.

Ok, this is it... I'm going over to the guys locker room with their men issues. What kind of issues do men have? They don't go thru the pains of childbirth, they don't have monthly's, they don't go thru the big M. Ha

maggiemahone1 ohmy.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 08-Jan-2004, 06:22 PM
men have issues just to have issues wink.gif

Posted by: RavenWing 08-Jan-2004, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ Jan 9 2004, 12:09 AM)
Ok girls who has peeped into the guys locker room? I'm trying to stay out. wink.gif


This should probably go in the dippy thread, but I did walk into the guys locker room, on the SHOWER end once in junoir high school.

Posted by: Shadows 08-Jan-2004, 07:52 PM
QUOTE (Aon_Daonna @ Jan 8 2004, 07:22 PM)
men have issues just to have issues wink.gif

wink.gif And women have issues just to agrevate men !!!! LOL wink.gif

Don't hang me... we all have issues and understanding each others issues is part of living in the same world!!! smile.gif

Smile . listen, learn, and live... that should be the mantra for both sexes!

Posted by: Elspeth 08-Jan-2004, 08:10 PM
QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ Jan 8 2004, 07:09 PM)
Thanks for the info on the Yves Rocher products. I'll know not to buy anything.

Ok girls who has peeped into the guys locker room? I'm trying to stay out. wink.gif

I think more guys have been here than have posted.

Ok, this is it... I'm going over to the guys locker room with their men issues. What kind of issues do men have? They don't go thru the pains of childbirth, they don't have monthly's, they don't go thru the big M. Ha

maggiemahone1 ohmy.gif

Maggie, you are cracking me up. Keep posting. I need your words. biggrin.gif

I agree. What could the guys have to talk about that is half as interesting as we are. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 08-Jan-2004, 08:47 PM
QUOTE (Shadows @ Jan 9 2004, 01:52 AM)
wink.gif And women have issues just to agrevate men !!!!  LOL  wink.gif


That's what we live for, to aggravate the male species! blow.gif
Don't you agree girls?

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Shadows 08-Jan-2004, 08:56 PM
Shame on you for taking that out of context....


It was not a put down but an insite to what we all need; as long as it was taken as a whole statement . tongue.gif wink.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 08-Jan-2004, 09:23 PM
QUOTE (Shadows @ Jan 9 2004, 02:56 AM)
Shame on you for taking that out of context....


It was not a put down but an insite to what we all need; as long as it was taken as a whole statement . tongue.gif  wink.gif

Shadows, Boo-hoo crybaby.gif

maggiemahone1


Posted by: Shadows 08-Jan-2004, 09:33 PM
OK I see we are headed for a bare knuckles, no holds barred, bare chested match here!!! wink.gif

Oh I forgot... you ladies don't do that ..... wink.gif


Posted by: Annabelle 09-Jan-2004, 11:54 AM
I agree Maggie, I just stay around to drive my hubby crazy. It give me a reason to live...
especially when I'm in a spring cleaning mood.

A

Posted by: maggiemahone1 09-Jan-2004, 07:40 PM
Ok Ladies, if any of you have been over to the MENS ISSUES, you'll notice that it's really really smelly there. If you visit put on a gas mask! The fumes will overcome you. pooh.gif

maggiemahone1


Posted by: MDF3530 09-Jan-2004, 07:55 PM
QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ Jan 9 2004, 07:40 PM)
Ok Ladies, if any of you have been over to the MENS ISSUES, you'll notice that it's really really smelly there. If you visit put on a gas mask! The fumes will overcome you. pooh.gif

maggiemahone1

What, you don't like the combined smells of beer, athlete's foot spray, motor oil and testosterone biggrin.gif ?

If I could, I'd package that and sell it! I'd be a millionaire biggrin.gif !

Posted by: maggiemahone1 09-Jan-2004, 08:25 PM
MDF, I suppose you could sell it, if you like the smell of rotten! puke.gif


maggiemahone1

Posted by: Elspeth 09-Jan-2004, 08:49 PM
Yeah, but it's more fun over there. We can't have that. Time to let loose girls!!!

Posted by: Annabelle 09-Jan-2004, 10:02 PM
No way. I'm not going over there. They stink someone said. I'll stay over here and talk just with the girls while the guys peak in here once in a while. They are so scared we are going to chat about them.

Now I've got to tell you girls my neat discovery. When it started getting cold here I got some lip gloss and started using it. I always get badly chapped lips in cold weather. I've tried everything. Well, I'm surprised but I have not had my lips peel not once since the winter got started. I bought just regular lip gloss at Walmart or a Eckerd's. It really seems to be heavier than vaseline or lip balm or anything else I've found. Try it.

Now don't go over there and start any trouble. Let them sit in their stinky ole men's room. I know I'm not going over there to clean it.

A

Posted by: Shadows 09-Jan-2004, 10:08 PM
Can you say "LAMPOON" ?


Posted by: CelticRose 09-Jan-2004, 10:08 PM
My favorite lip gloss is Juicy Tubes by Lancome! Wonderful stuff! smile.gif

I worked in the make-up artistry business for awhile and that was the favorite lip gloss by many make-up artists as well. Keeps you lips moist and glowy, shiney!

Posted by: Annabelle 09-Jan-2004, 10:25 PM
CelticRose what is your favorite flavor?

A

Posted by: CelticRose 10-Jan-2004, 12:02 AM
Annabelle! My very favorite of Lancome Juicy tubes they don't make that particular one anymore......sigh. It came in a blue tube and was a classic natural lip gloss that brought out the natural color of your lips. Now they have all these other colors instead, but I still recommend then. However, Lancome is owned by L'Oreal and they have lip glosses in a tube very very similar to Juicy tube now. You may want to check that out and you will get it for a much cheaper price.

Having worked in the business myself, I don't buy make up without referring to my book, "Don't Go to the Cosmetics Counter Without Me" by Paula Begoun. She, being a former make-up artist herself, has tested everything under the sun. so I tend to refer to her opinions before I go out and spend a lot of money on something. However, that doesn't mean I always agree.

I happen to really love the make-up line called Bare Escentuals which is a mineral powder that makes one's skin look flawless! I worked for Merle Norman and we were just coming out with something like this, but BE is much better. They have stores in both Lenox and Perimeter Malls. Go have a makeover and see what you think. I will add one thing. It is for people with normal to oily skin. If you have dry skin it will make your skin look dry and crinkly. Just a suggestion! smile.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 10-Jan-2004, 08:17 AM
Thank you Girls for the info on the lip gloss. I have trouble with chapped lips too. Do you think the guys appreciate it if we try to look all soft and smell good for them? Ha They just complain if we leave a print or two on a coffee cup or leave our cosmetics out. At least I can put down a toilet seat. Sometimes I believe my hubby has broken his arm. I think I'll start putting the toilet seat up and see if when he needs to use the throne in a hurry, his butt hits the water.
Oh btw Annabelle this was discussed over in the MEn's Issues. I'm just over there trying to instigate. biggrin.gif

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 10-Jan-2004, 09:40 AM
mmh lancôme is definitly my favourite make-up company! the Juicy tubes are just awesome and some of their really dark lip & eye colours are great.

For chipped and cracked lips you can also take the Vichy Repair thing. I don't leave the house without it in winter

Posted by: Annabelle 10-Jan-2004, 09:50 AM
Good Girl Maggie! Keep it up over there! I'm glad to hear someone else is stiring up trouble on the fella line. It keeps them on their toes when someone invades their room. Way to go!
I haven't gone there yet cause I hear they all smell!

A

Posted by: maggiemahone1 10-Jan-2004, 10:27 AM
Your so right about the smell, Annabelle. It would gag a maggot. Herrerano and the rest of the guys are housecleaning today. I want to know if you ladies would like to pool your money and buy a shovel for them to use? It might help too if we send a case of Lysol!

maggiemahone1

Posted by: oldraven 10-Jan-2004, 10:28 AM
Maggie, we do apreciate you lassies cutifying yourselves for us. We just don't like being marked every time we try to steal a kiss. Can't you girls find a lipstick, or gloss, that stays on you and not everything else?

And don't worry about the Lysol, we've got pressure washers for that. *grunt* We could use some floor dry though. SS made a nasty oil spill with Grover, and the Supertruck is leaking tranny fluid.



Hey, I've been holding it in. Don't blame the smell on me.

Posted by: maggiemahone1 10-Jan-2004, 10:53 AM
We do have a lipstick than stays on our lips all day. We just don't use this particular lipstick when you fellas are around. We ladies are just showing our love and affection for ya when we wear lipstick. We know that you guys really like us to wear it. We just want to look good for our honey's! rolleyes.gif

Wife leaving for work before husband does...
Husband to wife, "I would kiss you good-by honey, but you have all that terrible stuff on your lips."
Wife to husband, "That's ok darlin', I didn't want a kiss anyway."
Needless to say, husband runs to wife and plants a big one on her. Wife smiles great big as she exits the door. Husband proceeds to wipe off lipstick.

maggiemahone1

Posted by: oldraven 10-Jan-2004, 10:57 AM
So, why do you wear the sticky stuff if you know we don't like it? You'd get ten times more planted on you if it didn't have repercussions.

Posted by: Annabelle 10-Jan-2004, 11:09 AM
Hey we share everything with our guys anyway. Why not a little lipstick as long as it's mine. Right?

I really like the clear lip gloss that I've been wearing. So If I share with my hubby he'll have soft lips too. Sharing! Ain't it grand!


I was going to lend the guys one of my dump trucks and a pressure washer to clean their thread but I see they have already pulled out the heavy duty stuff to clean . Thank goodness for pressure washers and lysol.

A

Posted by: Annabelle 10-Jan-2004, 11:11 AM
And clear lip gloss isn't sticky oldraven! Not the good stuff anyway.

A

Posted by: JaneyMae 10-Jan-2004, 12:30 PM
Geez, went to the Men's page and had to take a shower because it simply reeked in there! pooh.gif

Ladies, it's definitely an enter at your own risk thing!

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 10-Jan-2004, 12:34 PM
that's the funny thing about men... women talk about women's stuff and they think they just suddenly have to talk about men's stuff as well.. why? no clue..

Posted by: JaneyMae 10-Jan-2004, 12:35 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 10 2004, 11:09 AM)
Hey we share everything with our guys anyway. Why not a little lipstick as long as it's mine. Right?

I really like the clear lip gloss that I've been wearing. So If I share with my hubby he'll have soft lips too. Sharing! Ain't it grand!


I was going to lend the guys one of my dump trucks and a pressure washer to clean their thread but I see they have already pulled out the heavy duty stuff to clean . Thank goodness for pressure washers and lysol.

A

I use Beauty for All Season lipstick and their sealer. That way I don't lose all my lipstick on my coffee msncoffecup.gif cup. As for it being on my honey when he leaves in the morning...........I like to think of it as my brand -- "Naughty naughty.gif ladies who want to approach my property be forewarned! gunsmilie.gif . If he comes home with any other brand he had better duck!!! flex.gif

Posted by: oldraven 10-Jan-2004, 12:37 PM
QUOTE (Aon_Daonna @ Jan 10 2004, 11:34 AM)
that's the funny thing about men... women talk about women's stuff and they think they just suddenly have to talk about men's stuff as well.. why? no clue..

unsure.gif

Not getting what yer saying here Miri.

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 10-Jan-2004, 12:39 PM
okay.. I meant with that: women start something & men just absolutely have to do the same... happy.gif
yous probably feel left out...

btw: I just threatened my poor wee BF with "if I ever have to wipe your pee-marks on the loo away ever again, I will accompany you to toilet and make sure you'll sit down"
he looked rather shocked, let's see if it'll work...

Posted by: maggiemahone1 10-Jan-2004, 01:48 PM
Let us know if it works, Aon. I guess we could chain the toilet seat down, ha wouldn't that be a hoot!

My goodness girls, you wouldn't believe what I did today. I washed my favorite lipstick up today while doing laundry. Yesterday I stuck it in my jeans so I could have it handy. Just a little got on my hubby's jeans and I was able to get it off. Now it's a special trip to the mall to replace it. I think I might get a ruby red this time. smooch, smooch, smooch. wink_kiss.gif

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 10-Jan-2004, 02:17 PM
Will do, Patti. And I fully intend to do so because I'm sick of it. Either he starts peeing straight or wipes it away himself. Else I'll get drastic

Posted by: oldraven 10-Jan-2004, 02:21 PM
You could always tell him to lift the seat. unsure.gif

Who pisses with the seat down anyway? Men, I mean.

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 10-Jan-2004, 02:31 PM
don't care.. but I alas get to see the loo from closer up as I would like to far too often in my circumstances (puking) and I hate having my face in close up to them marks...

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 10-Jan-2004, 02:32 PM
he's looking at me with a sour face happy.gif

Posted by: JaneyMae 10-Jan-2004, 04:25 PM
QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ Jan 10 2004, 01:48 PM)
My goodness girls, you wouldn't believe what I did today. I washed my favorite lipstick up today while doing laundry. Yesterday I stuck it in my jeans so I could have it handy. Just a little got on my hubby's jeans and I was able to get it off. Now it's a special trip to the mall to replace it. I think I might get a ruby red this time. smooch, smooch, smooch. wink_kiss.gif

maggiemahone1

Ahh, Maggie! I hate it when that happens! Besides wiping out your lipstick it can make a mess in the laundry. Good thing you had the jeans in. I've done it with whites -- bad news.

After 35 years with the ol' boy I've given up ever getting him to put the darned seat down. But then, when I know it is time for him to make him morning 'run' to the toilet I just have to put the seat up. biggrin.gif When he's had too many brews in the evening and he's "run" into the john, he's actually gotten his tush wet. Great fun! angel_not.gif beer_mug.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 10-Jan-2004, 04:57 PM
Good going, JaneyMay. Nothing like a man with a wet butt. Makes for an interesting converstation. lol.gif

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Annabelle 10-Jan-2004, 05:01 PM
I ruined a whole load of clothing one time because I forgot my Fushia Lipstick in my jeans pocket. I very seldom carry a purse and I always wear jeans. So I put usually a $20 bill in the back hip pocket and lipstick in the front left side pocket. I forgot all of it. My hubby said he got to keep the $20 cause he found it when he opened the washer and I lost all of my tops with lipstick on them but the jeans were alright.

Oh wasn't that terrible had to go shopping for new shirts...what a shame!

A

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 10-Jan-2004, 05:03 PM
hehe.. happy.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 11-Jan-2004, 04:04 PM
gossip.gif Girls, Yesterday I told you all about washing my favorite lipstick up, I went today and bought Revlon Silky Peach.

Do any of you buy Avon products? I do sometimes. I bought my Claddagh toe ring from Avon. I also buy skin cream and cosmetics.

Anyone watch any of the soaps? I watch General Hospital at 10:00 pm.
Ever heard of Sonnylicious? wink.gif

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 11-Jan-2004, 04:09 PM
*runs against the next wall* soaps!! the bane of mankind!!!

Posted by: maggiemahone1 11-Jan-2004, 04:30 PM
(speaking in her softest voice to Mirri) Please don't run up aginst the wall. You have that wee one inside you. Please be careful, baby will come out bouncing like a ball!

maggiemahone1

Posted by: JaneyMae 11-Jan-2004, 05:12 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 10 2004, 05:01 PM)
Oh wasn't that terrible had to go shopping for new shirts...what a shame!

A

Oh Annabell, it is such a shame no.gif that you HAD to go shopping for new tops. sadangel.gif Such a hardship lol.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 11-Jan-2004, 05:52 PM
Hey a girlfriend and I just got back from Atlanta shopping today. Goody's is having a big sale and yes, I found some more shirts....

Annabelle

Posted by: maggiemahone1 11-Jan-2004, 08:08 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 11 2004, 11:52 PM)
Hey a girlfriend and I just got back from Atlanta shopping today. Goody's is having a big sale and yes, I found some more shirts....

Annabelle

Such a hard job, but hey, someone has to do it!

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Annabelle 11-Jan-2004, 08:12 PM
My girlfriend and I went to the Atlanta Buyer's Mart and did shopping for the Boutique in the Salon and then went to hit the end of Winter Sales at Goodys. My feet are killing me but boy we got some great buys. The cute purses at the mart are really popular right now. Some of them have "I love Lucy" picutres on them to "The Sound of Music". Very different and I hope they sell in the Boutique.

A

Posted by: CelticRose 11-Jan-2004, 09:11 PM
Annabelle, as you know I lived in Atlanta for 14 years and how I miss Goody's! We don't have those here! sad.gif You lucky lady!

Posted by: Siusaidh Blues 12-Jan-2004, 01:58 PM
sad.gif
I got in on this topic way too late. Ya'll have been talking about hot flashes and mood swings and all that jazz, and I haven't had time to keep up with it much less read everything that's been said. I've been worried about repeating something that had already been talked to death! I've posted once or twice but there's so much discussion going on that I've been left behind.

But, let me just say that its nice to read everything you've shared that lets me know I'm not the only one going through this stuff.

thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 12-Jan-2004, 02:08 PM
SBlues, you are never alone in Hormone He*L ! Everyone goes thru it only some of us can discuss it while others don't want to talk about it.

Most of us feel better when we share our concerns with another woman. When we find out others feel the same you don't feel like its one person against the world.

Glad you came on board with all of us and don't be shy. Just jump in anytime. Even if we are on to another subject all of us will gladly go back and catch you up. We all enjoy the company and companionship in the War of Hormones.

Like I'd know since I'm only 18, right?
Annabelle

Posted by: JaneyMae 12-Jan-2004, 02:13 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 11 2004, 05:52 PM)
Hey a girlfriend and I just got back from Atlanta shopping today. Goody's is having a big sale and yes, I found some more shirts....

Annabelle

You lucky woman!!!! I wish I coulda gone with you. Next time call and I'll pick you up! lol.gif

Posted by: Siusaidh Blues 12-Jan-2004, 02:13 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 12 2004, 03:08 PM)
SBlues, you are never alone in Hormone He*L ! Everyone goes thru it only some of us can discuss it while others don't want to talk about it.

Most of us feel better when we share our concerns with another woman. When we find out others feel the same you don't feel like its one person against the world.

Glad you came on board with all of us and don't be shy. Just jump in anytime. Even if we are on to another subject all of us will gladly go back and catch you up. We all enjoy the company and companionship in the War of Hormones.

Like I'd know since I'm only 18, right?
Annabelle

You're sweet! Thanks for posting so soon...
And it is indeed reassuring to share with other women about what is going on in our lives.

Are you really only 18?? I remember being 18! smile.gif

Posted by: JaneyMae 12-Jan-2004, 02:15 PM
SBlues, Like Annabelle said, never hesitate to jump right in. We repeat often..........well sometimes.......I usually can't remember, especially if I forget to take my hormones!!! Geez......that's yucky! Talk about a REALLY gray moment wheelchair.gif

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 12-Jan-2004, 02:57 PM
mmh.. my favourite clothes shop is a little indy shop called "Gecko's" they make most of their stuff themselves, from historic re-enactment clothes (without zips or rubber bands... great") to stained jeans, tops, boots, self-knitted jumpers and so on. I always end up spending tons of money in there when I am in Düsseldorf.

Posted by: maggiemahone1 12-Jan-2004, 06:09 PM
If anyone want's to talk hormones, I'm all ears. biggrin.gif
Have you noticed girls, no guys around lately!

maggiemahone1


Posted by: Knightly Knight 12-Jan-2004, 07:09 PM
Ok its winter now, what do I do for dry skin? When It comes to my guitar I just put the humidifier in the case and close it up until tomorrow. Its all good and keeps the neck from warping and it notes well. Otherwise there is a buzzing at the 12th fret. Do you really think I could ask this question over at the mens circuit? give me credit on who to ask what LOL biggrin.gif Water is so bad for the skin. WHY IS THAT?

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 12-Jan-2004, 07:12 PM
Well, if you want to protect your face outside, take a fat-containing moisturiser. It seals your skin off a bit.
Moisturise on a regular basis, there are actually very good moisturisers for men, they just contain different perfumes. My favourite moisturiser (apart from the loreal synergy quenching one is the boots facial moisturiser for men, it's got a nice texture and doesn't make your skin sticky)

Posted by: maggiemahone1 12-Jan-2004, 07:36 PM
QUOTE (Knightly Knight @ Jan 13 2004, 01:09 AM)
Ok its winter now, what do I do for dry skin? When It comes to my guitar I just put the humidifier in the case and close it up until tomorrow. Its all good and keeps the neck from warping and it notes well. Otherwise there is a buzzing at the 12th fret. Do you really think I could ask this question over at the mens circuit? give me credit on who to ask what LOL biggrin.gif Water is so bad for the skin. WHY IS THAT?

There's no help for you Knightly Knight! biggrin.gif Thanks for visiting! You may learn something here!!!!

I'm glad you keep your guitar all moisturized and her neck from warping. Terrible to have a guitar with a warped neck and a buzzing 12th fret.

maggiemahone1

Posted by: JaneyMae 12-Jan-2004, 08:05 PM
QUOTE (maggiemahone1 @ Jan 12 2004, 06:09 PM)
If anyone want's to talk hormones, I'm all ears. biggrin.gif
Have you noticed girls, no guys around lately!

maggiemahone1

Do you take hormones?

Posted by: Knightly Knight 12-Jan-2004, 08:49 PM
Maggie Now Now Aon treated me kindly. You should think about it too
cool.gif wIll anyone know its me these glasses?

I have a great guitar,but really really bad skin. I do play music and I hate looking like I just ran over by a run a way bus. LOL My skin is rough and pourous.
i mentioned going to a dermatologist to get help to my wife once. She didn't say anything but I've never seen her look at me like that either. I dropped the subject.
i can talk vinyl flooring with the guys but its the girls who know skin.



Posted by: CelticRose 12-Jan-2004, 09:19 PM
Knightly Knight! Do you have a Trader's Joes where you live? They are health food stores around the country. They have the absolute best dry skin hand lotion there is. Burts and Bees are good too.

Posted by: oldraven 12-Jan-2004, 09:51 PM
QUOTE (Knightly Knight @ Jan 12 2004, 07:49 PM)
Maggie Now Now Aon treated me kindly. You should think about it too
cool.gif wIll anyone know its me these glasses?

I have a great guitar,but really really bad skin. I do play music and I hate looking like I just ran over by a run a way bus. LOL My skin is rough and pourous.
i mentioned going to a dermatologist to get help to my wife once. She didn't say anything but I've never seen her look at me like that either. I dropped the subject.
i can talk vinyl flooring with the guys but its the girls who know skin.

Hey man, I was talking skin way back at the birth of this thread. You've just got to find the more rounded males. And now that the Holiday meals are out of the way, I'm extremely well rounded. tongue.gif




Posted by: Aon_Daonna 13-Jan-2004, 08:29 AM
Well, Knight, don't be shy and use some of the skincare products for women. There are great facial masks that will help close your pores in a long term. If you don't mind spending a bit of money on it I recommend ordering skins shangri la by http://www.lush.co.uk (they deliver in the us). You have to have some patience, it won't go away at once but if you keep doing it regularly (facemask once a week, cleansing & moisturising daily) you will have success.

Don't be shy around makeup if you want to down the redness of your facial skin a bit, just get something that is close to your skintone, take a small drop of it and mix it with your facial moisturiser. That will give you some sort of toned moisturiser which usually works quite well. If your face is too shiny and you want to dull it down use powder...
Just have your wife buy it for you if you don't want to do it yourself.

Posted by: Siusaidh Blues 13-Jan-2004, 12:56 PM
QUOTE (JaneyMae @ Jan 12 2004, 03:15 PM)
We repeat often..........well sometimes.......I usually can't remember, especially if I forget to take my hormones!!! Geez......that's yucky! Talk about a REALLY gray moment wheelchair.gif

laugh.gif
I call those my Senior Moments, when I repeat myself or ask a question someone has just answered... or forget whether I turned on the washer or not after loading the clothes... or got to the store and promptly forgot what I was there for!

Thank the good Lord for Post-it Notes, I'd be totally lost without them!

Posted by: Annabelle 13-Jan-2004, 02:06 PM
Water is very good for the skin and especially nasal membranes during the winter.
Just have to put something on after the moisture is up....

A

Posted by: Knightly Knight 13-Jan-2004, 05:28 PM
Thank You everyone for the skin care advice. Yes Raven I have a few more senior moments than when I was a bit younger. Its this bad skin that messes me up and causes me to ask a question again. biggrin.gif If anyone would have told me I would have cared about skin when I was younger I would have laughed. Not any more. Have a great day everyone note.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 13-Jan-2004, 05:54 PM
I've started putting Mineral Oil on my face and feet at night. Just a little. If you look at all of the lotions on the market a great percentage of the product is made up of Mineral Oil. Now it may not be as easy to use but It only takes a little and spreads on your skin and starts absorbing immediately. With the small molecule it penetrates the pore faster and after about 4 days of doing this I saw a big improvement in my face and feet.
Try it, what do you have to lose.

Annabelle

Posted by: Annabelle 13-Jan-2004, 06:54 PM
Just for us girls!


Now I lay me Down to Sleep
I pray the Lord, My shape to keep

Please no wrinkles, please no bags
and please lift my butt, before it sags

Please no age spots, please no gray
and as for my belly, please take it away

Please keep me healthy, please keep me young
For all that you've put me thru,
I think I am done

Posted by: maggiemahone1 13-Jan-2004, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 14 2004, 12:54 AM)
Just for us girls!


Now I lay me Down to Sleep
I pray the Lord, My shape to keep

Please no wrinkles, please no bags
and please lift my butt, before it sags

Please no age spots, please no gray
and as for my belly, please take it away

Please keep me healthy, please keep me young
For all that you've put me thru,
I think I am done

That was cute, Annabelle! laugh.gif

JaneyMae, I don't take hormones! I still have my monthly. My problem is my really bad mood swings. It seems as though there's no in between for me. I have a few hot flashes and every now and then night sweats. Forgetfulness! I can need something and go into the room to get it and forget what I go after. Leave the room and go back to what I'm doing and then I remember what I went after. Follow me? biggrin.gif

You know what Kermit the Frog said, "it's not easy being green." I can say, "it's not easy getting older."

I hope you ladies are faithful to get papsmear and mammogram.

maggiemahone1

Posted by: maggiemahone1 13-Jan-2004, 07:53 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 13 2004, 11:54 PM)
I've started putting Mineral Oil on my face and feet at night. Just a little. If you look at all of the lotions on the market a great percentage of the product is made up of Mineral Oil.  Now it may not be as easy to use but It only takes a little and spreads on your skin and starts absorbing immediately. With the small molecule it penetrates the pore faster and after about 4 days of doing this I saw a big improvement in my face and feet.
Try it, what do you have to lose.

Annabelle

I have mineral here at the house. I'm gonna try it. I give my horse mineral oil when she gets a little constipated! laugh.gif

SBlues, you mentioned the post-it-notes, I'd forget those!

KKnight, I'm sorry I was so hard on ya! You just caught me in one of those moments! wink.gif

You know your getting older when AARP sends you a form to fill out for discounts. unsure.gif

maggiemahone1

Posted by: RavenWing 14-Jan-2004, 10:04 AM
Here is something else you all may like. I think it was on here at one time, but it has been a very long time.


New meds for women:

Damitol
Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to Hell for up to 8
hours.

St. Mom?s Wort
Plant extract that treats mom's depression by rendering
preschoolers unconscious for up to six hours.

Empty Nestrogen
Highly effective suppository that eliminates melancholy by
enhancing the memory of how awful they were as teenagers and
how you couldn't wait till they moved out.

Peptobimbo
Liquid silicone for single women. Two full cups swallowed
before an evening out increases breast size, decreases
intelligence, and improves flirting.

Dumerol
When taken with Peptobimbo, can cause dangerously low I.Q.
causing enjoyment of country western music.

Flipitor
Increases life expectancy of commuters by controlling road
rage and the urge to flip off other drivers.

Antiboyotics
When administered to teenage girls, is highly effective in
improving grades, freeing up phone lines, and reducing money
spent on make-up.

Menicillin
Potent antiboyotic for older women. Increases resistance to
such lines as, "You make me want to be a better person... can
we get naked now?"

Buyagra
Injectable stimulant taken prior to shopping. Increases
potency and duration of spending spree.

Extra Strength Buy-One-all
When combined with Buyagra, can cause an indiscriminate buying
frenzy so severe the victim may even come home with a Donny
Osmond CD or a book by Dr. Laura.

JackAsspirin
Relieves headache caused by a man who can't remember your
birthday, anniversary or phone number.

Antitalksident
A spray carried in a purse or wallet to be used on anyone too
eager to share their life stories with total strangers.


Sexcedrin
More effective than Excedrin in treating the, "Not now, dear,
I have a headache," syndrome.

Ragamat
When administered to a husband, provides the same irritation
as ragging on him all weekend, saving the wife the time and
trouble of doing it herself.

Posted by: Annabelle 14-Jan-2004, 11:54 AM
That is really cute Ravenwing.
I need alot of Jackaspirin.

A

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 14-Jan-2004, 11:56 AM
Annabelle, I use mineral oil on my furniture! biggrin.gif

Posted by: RavenWing 14-Jan-2004, 11:58 AM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 14 2004, 05:54 PM)
I need alot of Jackaspirin.


I need Damitol on a daily basis. laugh.gif

Posted by: CelticRose 14-Jan-2004, 05:51 PM
You have to be a bit careful with mineral oil as it will clog your pores and cause breakouts.

Make sure you use an alpha hydroxy or beta hydroxy, depending on your skin type, to cleanse your skin daily to keep from clogged pores. smile.gif

Posted by: maggiemahone1 14-Jan-2004, 07:24 PM
Ragamat! naughty.gif

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 14-Jan-2004, 07:41 PM
mmh ragamat sounds nice.. *imagines craig smashing himself into a wall*

Posted by: Annabelle 14-Jan-2004, 10:08 PM
The first items listed in the ingredients of a product mean they have a greater percentage in the bottle. Everybody probably already knew that but just in case you are a dumb as I am, I thought I'd put it for information sake.

Mineral oil is whipped and put in alot of cosmetics. I thought I'd give it a try. My skin is much better. I know you can use straight mineral oil on alot of things but I've not seen any breaking or clogging of the pours since I have terribly dry skin. Oil's have a smaller molecular weight in composition so they are absorbed better. As long as you don't have oily skin you should see an improvement. I sure have. Usually in a few minutes it's almost gone from my skin.

A

Posted by: CelticRose 14-Jan-2004, 11:27 PM
That's great to hear Annabelle! I know that a lot of people have a problem with skin breakouts because of too much mineral oil. Just wanted to make a suggestion. smile.gif

Posted by: Annabelle 14-Jan-2004, 11:31 PM
Oh no, CelticRose I didn't mean to sound critical. I've not had any break outs happen yet and it's been about 2 weeks doing it. I'm just so desperate to get moisture in my skin. I feel like I've been in the desert if I don't do this.
A

Posted by: CelticRose 14-Jan-2004, 11:43 PM
Oh no! I didn't take it critical at all! I just don't like to sound like a know-it-all, you know what I mean? I worked in the business for awhile and it is a subject very to my heart and I study it constantly, so it is hard for me not to have a say sometimes! wink.gif biggrin.gif

I have very dry skin too. When I lived in Georgia it wasn't so bad. But now living in the desert.....wow! I have to use Cetaphil moisturizer on my skin because I have very sensitive skin and tend to break out if there is too much mineral oil in a product. So I have cranky skin! laugh.gif

Posted by: Siusaidh Blues 16-Jan-2004, 08:20 AM
Celticrose, its gotten downright chilly here in Georgia and we're SO not used to it - everyone in my house is complaining about dry skin! I suppose the heating in the house dries us all out; we're going to keep the Lubriderm lotion company in business all by ourselves. laugh.gif

But I prefer the chill over the summer heat by 110%... a chill makes these hot flashes easier to bear doesn't it?!?

Posted by: Annabelle 16-Jan-2004, 07:11 PM
SBlues you live here in Georgia?
About where?
Then you know how the cold is affecting our skin. Mine is terrible during the winter. We heat our house with a pellet stove and it really dries me out.


Annabelle

Posted by: Annabelle 16-Jan-2004, 07:12 PM
CelticRose so glad I didn't step on your toes. You know I'm all ears when it come to info and yea I know you understand people who think they know everything. We choose to over look them and keep on truckin
A

Posted by: maggiemahone1 16-Jan-2004, 09:26 PM
i'm so glad us women can get along! biggrin.gif

I hope everyone has a nice week-end! Were supposed to get freezing rain tomorrow. I can't stand being couped up in the house for the week-end.

maggiemahone1

Posted by: CelticRose 16-Jan-2004, 10:21 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 16 2004, 08:12 PM)
CelticRose so glad I didn't step on your toes. You know I'm all ears when it come to info and yea I know you understand people who think they know everything. We choose to over look them and keep on truckin
A

Annabelle! You are sweet. wink.gif Truckin I am! Thank you biggrin.gif

BTW, I saw on your weather map that you and Siusaidh were having 38 degree weather! No wonder your skin is so dry! I used Vitamin E oil on my skin one winter when it got so dry and that really helped a lot, but then I got break outs too with that! sad.gif The cranky skin syndrome hit me again! angel_not.gif

Poor you and Siusaidh and your frozen dry noses! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Dreamer1 16-Jan-2004, 10:49 PM
What I wouldn't give right now for 38 degrees! We woke up this morning to -8, with wind chills in the -50 range sad.gif sad.gif We actually broke the old record of -5! All the schools closed due to the extreme cold. I went down, turned off our girls' alarms, turned up the thermostat, fed our puppy and let her out (she about froze-you should have seen her face!),let her back in again quickly, and raced back to a warm bed! I hate the cold!!

Okay, I think I'm done griping now. Sorry. I feel really sorry for Oldraven. He has to deal with these temps much more often. Thank goodness for working fireplaces!

Dreamer1 (brrrrrrrr)

Posted by: CelticRose 16-Jan-2004, 10:57 PM
Dreamer! I hate the cold too! That's why I live in Arizona! It was 70 degrees today! *ducks from being hit on the head* biggrin.gif

Posted by: Dreamer1 16-Jan-2004, 11:07 PM
I don't want to hear that! (Don't worry - I won't hit anybody. Hmmm, where's my pillow?? angel_not.gif ) Even my Mom has taken pity on me and doesn't tell me how wonderful the temps are down there in Sarasota, at least not every time we call. Heh heh tongue.gif

Toasted marshmallows, anyone??

Dreamer1

Posted by: oldraven 17-Jan-2004, 12:22 AM
hah! Thanks Dreamer, I feel sorry for me too. tongue.gif

Actually, it has been quite nice these past few weeks. It was above freezing four out of the past five days, and yesterday we broke a record high, with 6*C (42.8*F). Decent.

But yeah, these Alberta winters suck. So damn cold, and so damn dry. Back east it just doesn't get like this. Well, except maybe this year. I guess they're going through one heck of a cold front now. Around -40 (which is the same in F). And we're getting freezing rain out here, which is usually what we get all winter back home. The country's got its weather system arse backwards. laugh.gif





Don't worry about me though. I'm used to the cold. (well, as much as you can be)

Posted by: Annabelle 17-Jan-2004, 02:18 PM
That kind of cold makes you say"God bless a humidifyer"

Annabelle

Posted by: Annabelle 17-Jan-2004, 02:21 PM
OldRaven you haven't mentioned your car lately. How's it running?
A

Posted by: Annabelle 17-Jan-2004, 02:25 PM
Girls, I'm here but no happy face and I need to chat with you all. I'm sitting here dying of a broken heart.

My youngest son went to the Court House in NC and got married even tho they are having a big church wedding June 26th in Jacksonville, Fl. He didn't even call his dad and I and let us know but her parents knew. I feel so cheated. They went ahead and did this so he'd get more money in his military pay since they already live together.
My family doesn't want to go to the wedding now. And I would have gone up and been there and taken them to lunch and enjoyed seeing my son get married.
I am so down! Boo Hoo here!

Annabelle

Posted by: CelticRose 17-Jan-2004, 03:27 PM
Oh Annabelle! I am so sorry that you missed out on a very important day in your son's life. I don't understand why he didn't at least tell you he was going to do this. I am not a parent but I would have felt cheated too. sad.gif Maybe as time goes by and the wedding in FL comes nearer, your family will have settled down their hurt and attend the big wedding afterall and you all can celebrate together then. Keep us posted. smile.gif

Posted by: gaberlunzie 17-Jan-2004, 03:53 PM
Ouch! Oh Annabelle, that's so hard for you and I really can imagine how you are feeling. Who knows why he did it without telling his parents???
But I'm with Rose...there is quite a time until the wedding in summer so I hope - and I think! - things will calm down until then. Time enough to straighten it out, hm?
But for the moment - feeling with you - may I just give you a wee hug - from mum to mum?

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 17-Jan-2004, 04:00 PM
sorry to hear... did he say anything why he never told yous?

I might get married (mainly for legal reasons) soon and I would want my parents with me in any case even though that means I have to juggle people around (my father is not allowed to be too close to my mother via court order *sighs*), which is never fun...
But if I decided to get married in an instant I probably wouldn't be able to tell them since they both work in shifts...

Don't be overly down Annabelle, he might tell you why he did it at some point. Calm down, think about it and then go to the big wedding in summer... I don't like it when families break apart of things like that or inheritances or anything like that.

Posted by: CelticRose 18-Jan-2004, 02:16 AM
Hi ladies! I am on the mailing lists of several cosmetic critics that judge makeup, skincare, etc. Do you mind if I share the latest trends and what's good for your skin and makeup here?

I will post this one critique here and see what you think.

Clarins

Soft Touch Rich Compact Foundation ($35) can only be described as a next-generation cream-to-powder makeup. This amazingly silky, silicone-based foundation has one of the smoothest textures around, and blends impeccably to a soft powder finish that has just a touch of dewiness--so this is not the best choice for those with oily skin or oily areas. Those with normal to slightly dry skin who prefer this type of makeup should give this an audition. It provides light to medium coverage and comes in six excellent neutral shades, though options for darker skin tones are limited. Clarins claims this "sweeps on like a second skin," and, for the most part, they're absolutely correct.

Paula Begoun, makeup artist

Posted by: valpal 59 18-Jan-2004, 11:00 AM
hug.gif for you, Annabelle. I'm so sorry.

Posted by: Dreamer1 18-Jan-2004, 02:46 PM
Oh Annabelle, I'm so sorry for all of you. It's such a shock for you, and *hurts*, but he's also lost having those who love him dearly with him to celebrate such a wonderful event. They must have done this quickly, without thinking it through, and without realizing how much this would hurt all of you. You know how impulsive younger folks can be.

Hugs and prayers to all of you. hug.gif

Dreamer1

Posted by: Aon_Daonna 18-Jan-2004, 04:02 PM
hmm, Rose I'm dubious about the cream to powder make ups. I actually prefer the good old moisturiser-foundation thing with powder finish to everything else.

Posted by: maggiemahone1 18-Jan-2004, 05:35 PM
I'm all ears for the information, CelticRose! I like knowing what's good and what's not!
Thank you,

maggiemahone1

Posted by: maggiemahone1 18-Jan-2004, 05:45 PM
QUOTE (Annabelle @ Jan 17 2004, 08:25 PM)
Girls, I'm here but no happy face and I need to chat with you all. I'm sitting here dying of a broken heart.

My youngest son went to the Court House in NC and got married even tho they are having a big church wedding June 26th in Jacksonville, Fl. He didn't even call his dad and I and let us know but her parents knew. I feel so cheated. They went ahead and did this so he'd get more money in his military pay since they already live together.
My family doesn't want to go to the wedding now. And I would have gone up and been there and taken them to lunch and enjoyed seeing my son get married.
I am so down! Boo Hoo here!

Annabelle

I know you must be heart-broken, Annabelle. I can't say much, I did the same thing when I got married. Just decided on the day to get married and did it. My Baptist preacher Granddad married us at his house. Things are sure to work out and your family will change their minds about going to the church wedding or where ever they get married. I wish your son and his new bride loads of happiness and a marriage that last for years and years. Look at like this A, you have a new daughter in the family.

maggiemahone1

Posted by: Annabelle 19-Jan-2004, 08:48 AM
I just haven't been able to talk for the last 3 days. Very depressed about the whole thing. Then my son called me at work Sat morn and said he thinks he made a mistake by doing it this way. His bride is upset and his Dad and I have been down for 3 days now. Our middle daughter came home Sat night and when I saw her she and I started crying all over again. I keep telling myself that I need to look at the whole big picture but now I feel angry and I don't even want to go to the wedding myself. It's fake. Why bother. Why spend the money? All of my kids have said they would have been at the court house with their brother if he had told them. They said they don't want to be in the wedding now and they will go to a reception but they are not going to the church for a make believe wedding ceremony.

Thanks everyone for the words of encouragement. I'm glad you all posted back for me. I really needed lots of hugs right now from friends and I appreciate all of you and your input so much. As I sit here crying, how can a bunch of women from all over the world become friends. Thru sharing their hearts and feelings with each other. I hope one day to meet all of your lovely faces as I already know your hearts. Thanks again for the hugs!

Annabelle

Posted by: Elspeth 19-Jan-2004, 09:01 AM
Oh Annabelle sweetie, I just read this. I'm so sorry. Can't kids just be little s***s sometimes?
Allow yourself time to be upset, but don't say anything now! Just give yourself some time to grieve, for that's what you're going through, the grief of losing out on something very precious to you and your family.
Give it some time to get a clearer perspective before you say anything to him or his girl.
Try and think - how important will this be 30 years from now? And know I'd give you a great big sister hug if I could. Call me if you want.

Posted by: Annabelle 19-Jan-2004, 09:06 AM
Oh E, all I've done is cry for days. I wonder if my son even loves his family cause he never includes us in his life. I'm so angry and hurt that I want to write him off.
A

Posted by: Elspeth 19-Jan-2004, 09:09 AM
I understand but never write him off. He just may be going through that time where he needs to seperate from his family to discover who he is. And as a triplet, I have to think it is even harder to find your own identity. Just think of his as being tossed out of the nest. He'll fly back to his momma sometimes, but it's time for him to have his own nest. (easy for me to say, my littlest one is only six. Remind me when my little guy is in his 20's)
Take heart, how could he not love you? We all do.

Posted by: Annabelle 19-Jan-2004, 09:14 AM
I need to tell you again, YOU ARE THE BEST SISTER IN THE WHOLE WORLD!

A

Posted by: single speed 19-Jan-2004, 09:19 AM


I'll keep you and your family in my prayers, Annabelle. Here is a
HHHHHHHUUUUUUGGGGG in the meantime.

Our family went through a similar situstion in November, so your pain is shared.

Terence

Posted by: Elspeth 19-Jan-2004, 09:21 AM
Sister A - be as mad as a hornet, but dont' say anything or make any decisions for at least 2 weeks!

Is his wife from a large, close family? It could be she is somewhat overwhelmed by your family and needs to know she will come first in her husband's life, even before his mother. Remember - A man shall leave his mother and a woman leave her home.

Give it time. Make no decisions now. Don't put him in a position of having to chose between his family and his wife. That is a no-win situation for any marriage to start out in.


Posted by: Annabelle 19-Jan-2004, 09:29 AM
No Jennifer is from a small close family. She only has one sister. The problem for me is I already have a close relationship with Jennifer and I know whatever I do affects and will hurt her. I'm mad at Matthew and I want to hurt him, not her.
Jennifer's family is of Scottish heritage also. Her mother is a McDonald and her father is a Bagby. His family still makes Bagpipes in Glasgow. I know what we do will affect our relationship with her family as well. We all hit it off immediately when we meet last year and I don't want to hurt anyone other than Matthew.
Our family is very close as you know and we all are hurt and feel cheated. We all keep asking each other why should we help Matt when it's evident he doesn't care for any of us. If he did he wouldn't hurt his family.

A

Posted by: Elspeth 19-Jan-2004, 09:32 AM
This may be part of his need to establish himself as his own man, out of the shadow of his mother and sisters. A really stupid, moronic, hurtful way, but again, he's a man isn't he? We can't expect too much.

Again, remember we love you and I'm sure he does too. Youth can be so insensitive.

Posted by: Annabelle 19-Jan-2004, 09:41 AM
Problem is I want to hurt him without hurting anyone else and that possibility doesn't exist.
Single what happened in your family? How did it affect your family?
Was there a way to make everyone happy?

A

Posted by: oldraven 19-Jan-2004, 09:48 AM
Oh, Annabelle. I'm so sorry. sad.gif

There's not much else I can really say, is there? Nothing will make you feel better. Just be patient, I guess. We all know you're a firecracker.

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