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Posted by: Shadows 13-Sep-2004, 03:12 PM
How many of you have experienced moving between the plains of existence?
Have you ever been out of your body?

Share the knowledge here please.

Posted by: Aaediwen 14-Sep-2004, 03:12 AM
I would say yes, that every time I write, every time my mind wanders, would be such an instance. To say that I have seen my physical body from a second or third person perspective, no. But I do regularly experience what I believe to be alternate planes of existance. Where physical form is optional at most, and certain constraints we experience here do not exist. Or at least they don't exist to the same degree.

Posted by: freekenny 11-Oct-2004, 12:12 AM
O'siyo,
~Absolutely! I have been 'out of body' so to speak~ Never in limbo, but, traveling 'high above' all else~ My first experience occured when I discovered Transcedental Meditation~ One becomes so 'free' that no amount of gravity can conquer the force of 'moving between planes of existence'~ Transcedental Meditation is the most intense, my opinion only, when 'done' in water~
~During my vision quests I become 'absent' from the physical body/shell I use~ It's a must for the 'quest' to be sincere, pure and intense~ It is necessary for the body to be 'empty' because during a vision quest the body is 'purified/cleansed' during the tyme that the mind and spirit are 'elsewhere'~
~'Moving between planes of existence' occurs for me in both Meditation and Vision Quests
~ Vision quests are all about the 'planes' that we know exist (Mother Earth) and, those never before ventured (plane closest to the Sun)..the only way their knowledge is ever known is, like the layers of Mother Earth, 'answers, solutions, deeds, goals, etc.' are 'shown' in pieces~ Each plane offers a new 'piece' of the quest~ In layers of sorts~ Once the spirit and mind returns to the 'shell', in unity, the quest is realized~ angel.gif Could take several vision quests on different occasions or several intense days and eve's in a row~
~Transcendental Meditation offers me keener insight into the planes I have experienced..this is my opinion only..like so many things in life, each person is going to have a different experience and a different 'view'~ Meditation helps me 'keep check' of 'experiences' and what I can 'do' with those experiences~ I have several successful problem solving issues taken care of during Meditation~ Moving 'between planes of existence' during Trans. Meditation is a 'mind-strengthening' exercise that is helpful before a 'healing'/smudging/journey~ sleep.gif
~~ My 'two-cents' wine.gif
~Sty-U red_bandana.gif

Posted by: Sěmeag 27-Feb-2009, 03:23 PM
I undertake the Imrammic meditations: is that the kind of thing you interested in?

Posted by: Dogshirt 27-Feb-2009, 09:36 PM
Oki, when I went on my vision quest my spirit left here for a nuetral place waiting for my helper. It was there that Bear came to me and told me secrets to help me in life. By following these Bear has taught me the way to live life and make my way in the world.


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Posted by: stoirmeil 28-Feb-2009, 03:01 PM
I have enormous respect for, and quite a bit of interest in, old shamanic traditions -- enough respect, in fact, to be quite wary of the whole experience, much as I was always wary of potent hallucinogens and never experimented with them. I have read that fearful is not the way to go into nonordinary reality. Does anyone have any thoughts about that?

Posted by: marthien 28-Feb-2009, 03:06 PM
I believe we all have everytime we dream. Our dreams are just another realm we travel, see we have the realm of fear, happiness, truth, and fantasy. But no matter what we are dreaming we are traveling through another world.

Posted by: Shadows 03-Jul-2009, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (marthien @ 28-Feb-2009, 04:06 PM)
I believe we all have everytime we dream. Our dreams are just another realm we travel, see we have the realm of fear, happiness, truth, and fantasy. But no matter what we are dreaming we are traveling through another world.

Here is something for you to ponder:

What if your dreams were reality and you reality really dreams...

Posted by: Camac 03-Jul-2009, 05:34 PM
Shadows;

If my dreams are reality; then I am truely dead and condemned to Tartarus.


Camac.

Posted by: Breandán 04-Jul-2009, 10:39 AM
Not so much different planes of existence, as different states of mind. I have not experienced anything that convinced me that I left my body; and so I believe that when we dream, meditate, and what have you, we are exploring different areas of our own mind, not the outside world (or Otherworld, for that matter).

Posted by: Breandán 04-Jul-2009, 10:41 AM
QUOTE (Camac @ 03-Jul-2009, 06:34 PM)
Shadows;

If my dreams are reality; then I am truely dead and condemned to Tartarus.


Camac.

lol

And I've been dating celebreties, and clearing forests at the same time for no apparent reason....

Posted by: stoirmeil 04-Jul-2009, 06:54 PM
You know, I felt like Marthein sort of jumped in and answered my question about this is a very general way, that was not altogether to the point, last Febraury. I still want to know more about this from any who have actually attempted or achieved shamanic flight in the oldest sense, or know more about it. And actually, I don't think in this context that it is productive to draw such a such a hard line between ordinary dreaming and something more, or one's own mind (as if it is necessarily bounded to one's own cognitive platform of the brain) and something beyond it. For the sake of the discussion, at least -- you understand.

Camac -- you got to lay off that Pepsi before bed. Oh -- I have noticed lately that a strong preparation of vitamin B complex before bed (one capsule or tab of the "high-potency" variety you can get in any health store) makes dreams more frequent and more vivid, and also more likely to be remembered. This is do believe is a brain effect, since the B complex vitamins are of the first neurological importance -- but again, why attempt to cut off the productions of the lone brain as being outside any larger contact by definition? For the sake of the discussion. smile.gif

Posted by: Antwn 03-Aug-2009, 08:13 PM
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 04-Jul-2009, 07:54 PM)
I still want to know more about this from any who have actually attempted or achieved shamanic flight in the oldest sense, or know more about it. And actually, I don't think in this context that it is productive to draw such a such a hard line between ordinary dreaming and something more, or one's own mind (as if it is necessarily bounded to one's own cognitive platform of the brain) and something beyond it. For the sake of the discussion, at least -- you understand.


Have you read "Journey's Out Of The Body" by Robt. Monroe? Its one of the most interesting and non hocus pocus accounts of his OOB experiences ( to the degree that's possible). I know, not someone you can talk to here, and not an official shaman - but still.

http://www.amazon.com/Journeys-Out-Body-Robert-Monroe/dp/0385008619/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249351884&sr=1-1

Posted by: stevenpd 04-Aug-2009, 01:49 PM
Yes, I've believe that I experienced an OBE.

It was late at night, I was trying various ways of leaving my body or experiencing astral projection. My concern was to remain breathing while out and about. As I recall, my senses for my arms went first. This provided a little confidence to proceed further.

I then felt this sense of freedom as I seemed to move up through my head and I found myself about 50 feet above our house looking down through the roof at everyone. I knew what had happened so I thought to do a little experiment. I went to my sleeping son and found that our thoughts could become one, which startled me at the ease of doing this. Upon which, I returned suddenly to my own body just as I left it.

I thought that the experience was very interesting. The ability to move and see through things was fascinating. The entire experience was troubling from the standpoint of being able to integrate my mind with someone with ease. That's a responsibility I don't need.

A flight of fancy? Possible. But the experience was real enough to me. I have directed bad dreams and have changed their outcome, never to experience them again. I find the mind to be much more than people give credit for, hence I take very little for granted.



Posted by: Camac 04-Aug-2009, 02:26 PM
Don't know if this counts as an out of body experience but on 30 Sept. 1969 on a Navy Hospital ship off the coast of Viet Nam at approx. 3:30 in the afternoon I died. Was told I was dead for 2 mins. 38 secs. Don't remember anything just waking up with one Hellova pain in my chest and a bruise the size of a dinner plate where they had pounded on me to restart my heart. The Doctor at the Battalion Aid Station forgot to mark morphine on my evac card so when I got to the Hospital ship they jabbed me again and the old pump said thank you and decided to enjoy the the trip. Last thing I remember saying was no when I saw the syringe. Really ticked me off as I was enjoying a nice morphine high when they jabbed me and put the lights out.



Camac

Posted by: Antwn 04-Aug-2009, 07:47 PM
QUOTE (stevenpd @ 04-Aug-2009, 02:49 PM)
A flight of fancy? Possible. But the experience was real enough to me. I have directed bad dreams and have changed their outcome, never to experience them again. I find the mind to be much more than people give credit for, hence I take very little for granted.

Sounds like a wonderful experience Steven, I envy you. Thanks for telling us about it. Such adventures we must be missing. I think you're right, that the mind is far more expansive and contains far more potential than we know.

I have heard from several friends about their OOB experiences. My own brother told me of one when he was a kid. Another kid accidentally hit him in the head with a baseball bat during a game and he found himself out of his body looking at it lying on the baseball field. He was in danger for a while but was rushed to the hospital, treated and released. He didn't go into great detail about his OOB but I got the impression it didn't last long. Perhaps he just didn't remember much since he was relating an experience he'd had as a child when he was a middle aged adult.

Posted by: gaberlunzie 26-Aug-2010, 09:59 AM
I have made a few experiences some might laugh about and won`t take it serious but they were.
It`s been a long time since I posted here last time and my spiritual journey has been a long since.
One experience I made was when I was lying in hospital after my first surgery and was doing awfully bad, with permanent extremly high temperature. This fever was wearing me out and there was this one special night ...
I saw myself lying in bed but from above, at the same time I was moving towards a light, shining so warm and brightly that no word could do it any justice. It felt like unconditional and pure love, coming directly from the Devine Source. I so wanted to get there but when I was almost entering it I saw my grandmother who had died in 1977; she looked at me with eyes filled with an incredibly beautiful light with a no less beautiful smile and gently shook her head, like she was saying "It`s not your time yet, my child". I so wanted to go but felt myself moving back until I was in my own body again, fighting for my life.

Very different experiences I made by entering what I call the Cosmic Wheel. These are not only dreaming experiences but also those I do fully awaken. Of course I`m preparing for it. I`m asking my spirit guides and the Great Spirit or the Divine Source ( however we call it, it is the same ) to be with me and to help me not to get lost in time. It`s hard to explain, I just feel when I`m ready for it.
I can travel to previous lives and see myself there. You know, I`m still here in present time but as the same time I`m there. I have gained so much insight since, about me and other people in my life, some I meet in previous lives and it explains why we are soul mates in this life.
First those travels simply happened but in thr meantime I can do them willingly.
I take my responsibility very serious, those travels are nothing to be "played" with. The preparation is as important as the thanks after I`m back again.
I hope this all makes sense; I`m very thankful for being allowed to make these experiences.
Blessed be,
Gabby

Posted by: Shadows 10-Sep-2010, 02:55 PM
When I refer to OBE I am not talking about NDE, but rather the controled shamanistic journey that is a different animal all together.

NDE is a seperate entity all of it's own.

I have great respect for those who have had NDE and do not make slight of it, but I am looking for those who have had controled experiences.

Posted by: Antwn 11-Sep-2010, 03:52 PM
Shadows, have you read any books by Robert Monroe? Journeys Out Of The Body is one. Very good. Not a shaman per se, but developed a way to have an OBE at will, with some training and wrote about his experiences while out of body. He eventually started an institute in Charlottesville VA to teach his methods. Very interesting guy.

Posted by: Shadows 25-Aug-2012, 07:15 AM
I would like to bring this back to the top!
Anyone else have experienced this?

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