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Posted by: Nancy-Raven 05-Jun-2005, 07:59 PM
The question of celtic rose was very interesting.I have something similar and "hard to find answer".We know the celtic nation , found trace at Hallstate and everything which have survive today but there is something I don't understand.When you do research , history of celt stop at some point,but what does it mean?The celt have dissapear after the year 1000 because of a war,they change or something else?It can seem ridicule for some of you but I'm just curious to know what happend.

Posted by: Aaediwen 06-Jun-2005, 02:12 PM
If you ask me, the Celts never disappeared. However, through much of history they are referred to by different names. They came to be referred to as Irish, Highlanders, Welsh, etc... Some might argue with my belief that the Celts still exist. Personally, I think that sites such as this one prove that the Celts are not just a people of a bygone era. Just that they have become part of other groups, and taken different names.

Posted by: Mailagnas maqqas Dunaidonas 06-Jun-2005, 02:54 PM
It's important to remember that there was never a Celtic nation as such. Rather, the Celts were a fairly loose confederation of tribes with a common culture who referred to themselves by their tribal names.
Indeed, scholars tend to disagree on whether the historic Celts ever referred to their culture as Celtic.
Remnants of Celtic culture remain in places like Ireland, Ulster, Scotland, etc., although the people tend to refer to themselves as Irish, Scots, etc. Arguably, traces of Celtic culture also remain in areas heavily impacted by Ulster Scot migration, such as parts of the US, Australia, NZ, etc.

Posted by: rpeirson 03-Aug-2007, 06:05 AM
The Celts still exist in all of us. We do not live like they did but we are still Celts

Posted by: Ganeida 14-Oct-2007, 09:16 PM
What the loose bands of Celts shared was a common language & although this has mutated a bit as in P & Q Gaelic a shared language is still characteristic of the Celtic nations. Irish & Scots gaelic are very similar; Welsh is understandable to some extent by both, Breton comes from the 4th/5th C migrations, & these similarities would have been closer the further back in history you go. This is remarkable given how hard conquering nations have worked to eradicate the Celtic languages at different times. My great~grandmother was the last Gaelic speaker in our family but that some of the languages continue to exist is evidence (I think) of the continued existence of the Celts.

Posted by: 0Ash0Tree0 09-Feb-2008, 02:19 PM
If they didn't go by other names then they assimalated into the other cultures around them, mainly the Anglo-Saxons and Vikings. Red hair in the UK comes from the Vikings.
And I am a Celt among many other things...

Posted by: oldraven 11-Feb-2008, 08:39 AM
One thing to remember is that The Celts never referred to themselves as such. They shared common cultural traits and a related language, but were not United. The Term Celt itself comes from Classic Mediterranean records of one tribe, who went by the name Celtoi (from modern day Portugal. This is widely accepted as a tribal name, not just one given to that tribe by the author). To the Romans and other Classical Civilisations, they were one people, but when it came to the Celts themselves, they were still warring with each other as much as they were their common enemies from the South-east and North.

The concept of the unified Celt is a fairly recent one, so they didn't arrive or disappear. They were a fractured group of people with much in common but Loyalties.

Posted by: 0Ash0Tree0 11-Feb-2008, 12:57 PM
This is also true...forgot about that part. I always thought it was funny that all sides of my family have probably gone to war against each other at some point.

Posted by: oldraven 11-Feb-2008, 01:54 PM
It sounds like you're of a proper Maritime mix. wink.gif As I'm made up of English, Scottish, German, Irish, French and Scandinavian (if you can narrow Anderson down to any particular country, I'd be glad to know), I understand exactly where you're coming from. My Dad hates when I talk about history from the Scots perspective, pointing out the Evils of the English past. You should have seen his face when I told him I'd found Irish and French names in his bloodline.

Posted by: Camac 17-Feb-2008, 02:16 PM


oldraven;

There is quiet an interesting write up in Electric Scotland about the origins of the Anderson name. It is predominately Celtic but is also found in Scandinavia. It seems it stems from the Gaelic for Andrew. If you haven't already done so give it a looksee it might help a bit.

Camac

Posted by: oldraven 18-Feb-2008, 06:26 AM
Thanks for the heads up, Camac, I will.

Posted by: Camac 18-Feb-2008, 08:11 AM


oldraven ;

I meant to mention that I have cousins in the Brockville, Prescott, Maitland, area who are Anderson's.

Wilburt (Buster) Anderson (D). Wife Mary , Daughters, Joan, Roseanne, Mary Lee,
and Maureen.. Step-daughter Patricia.


Camac.

Posted by: Mailagnas maqqas Dunaidonas 20-Feb-2008, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (oldraven @ 11-Feb-2008, 02:54 PM)
(if you can narrow Anderson down to any particular country, I'd be glad to know),

My Anderson gg-grandparents emigrated from Malmo, Sweden in the late 1800's.
See http://genealogy.about.com/library/surnames/a/bl_name-ANDERSON.htm for more general information.

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