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Posted: 04-Nov-2003, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (oldraven @ Nov 4 2003, 06:38 PM)
I've got a back yard. biggrin.gif

I can even make a bonfire to fight the -22* (-7.6*F) temperatures we're getting tonight.

I guess that I shouldn't complain that we are going down to 0 tonight (32F)


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Posted: 04-Nov-2003, 05:06 PM
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I've got a BIG back yard. Big front yard too. And a 48 inch diameter steel fire-ring we can cook over or dance around. Nearest neighbor is 1/4 mile away and I don't care if she feels disturbed or not. The next closest is 1/2 and I'll invite them to the party. If we do it summer then it never gets dark. If we do it this time of year we can enjoy brilliant displays of the northern lights (sky cover allowing). If we do it in mid-winter all can become members of the "forty-below club". (that's -40 on either scale, the convergence point).

I also have a huge covered porch that makes pretty good sleeping accommodations for guests, and if we need more I have a tipi, a large wall tent (with a nice cozy wood stove) and some other canvas we can put up.

Heck, if you're gonna travel to a party you might as well travel to Alaska. It's probably closer for our UK guests via the polar route.

Dogs are welcome. Cats?? That's up to the dogs I s'pose.

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QUOTE (sheronjessie @ Nov 3 2003, 10:24 PM)
hi, this is tennesseegirl
I was just reading some of the comments on the subject of Mayberry. I know all of you are looking at this from a blue collar workers point of view, but did you ever wonder why people are out there commiting these crimes in the first place.
I never have commited any of these crimes but the way the world is now it's no wonder that people are so despert to rob, and steal. We are not paid enough wages to take care of our families, we cann't afford healthcare for them either. The people who are out there stealing food, clothing, and other things are trying to cope with the fact that they are having to live on the streets, or live in there cars if they are fortunate to own one. ...

One of my most recent stops was a woman pushinging her child in a $100 stroller, she was wearing designer clothing, and many diamonds!!! Her lawyer showed up befor the police!!! Her car was a Mercades, it was towed away, and her 2 kids were taken from her on the spot by the cops... don't sound blue collar to me!

It turned out her husband owned a large local business.


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First of all I would like to say I am all for Alaska Swanny, especially if you have a tipi. Love those things.
Anyway, I am a social worker, we discuss these kinds of things all the time. Unfortunately, discussing gets us nowhere when we don't go out and do something. We will never have Mayberry, because Mayberry never existed. For example, here are a list of social issues... I want someone to try to guess the year and city that these occurred in. I will give the answer in a couple of days but I hope to get some responses first.

High Divorce Rates Kids with guns
Gangs Horrible Economy
Drug & Alcohol problems Assassinations
Bombing Political Terrorists

However we can have better. We can chose to do things for our neighborhoods to help. All one person can do is a little but I read a quote on a professors coffee cup that made me laugh and made me think "If we all work together we can totally disrupt the system." In the United States many people have become pacifists... "there's nothing I can do about it so why try." What do you want to do about it Elspeth... surely you have an idea. Find what you believe is one problem in your neighborhood that you feel passionate about and can personally become involved in solving, and do so. If you have children, teach them to become involved. If the world over we would stop being more concerned with ourselves alone and started looking out for each other and working together we might make a difference. We will not have Mayberry, but we will have some control and will start feeling less like victims.
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QUOTE (Keltic @ Nov 4 2003, 03:47 PM)
QUOTE (oldraven @ Nov 4 2003, 06:38 PM)
I've got a back yard. biggrin.gif

I can even make a bonfire to fight the -22* (-7.6*F) temperatures we're getting tonight.

I guess that I shouldn't complain that we are going down to 0 tonight (32F)

No. No you shouldn't.










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Posted: 05-Nov-2003, 12:19 AM
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Elspeth there is a little subdivision developed by the Disney Corp called Celebration. It is right off of Hwy 192...It looks picture perfect..the houses look similar but each a little different in Victorian styling...you pay a fee each year and everyone gets their yard cut on the ssame day so everyone's yard looks the same...the grass is the same level in the whole neighborhood..
although it looks perfect, town square, community playground everything, there is no way the rest of the world is going to go away...
those that live there live with the same dangers that are in our world today...it's nice to wish for but unrealistic...
If you find it, call me and I'll move too!
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Posted: 05-Nov-2003, 12:20 AM
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Oh and I forgot to tell you it has it's own downtown and a cute little White Church for all of us God loving folks to go worship...pickett fence and all.
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Posted: 05-Nov-2003, 02:15 AM
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I know this sounds cheesy, but I happen to agree.
lightly quoting the Matrix
"The human brain can not handle a 'perfect' world"

everybody views a "perfect world" differently. Some see it as lollipops and roses others see it was rape and destruction. Its all in the eye of the beholder. Some people think the world we live in now is perfect. Who know maybe we're the one that are "wrong".


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Disney is a great illustration. They try to create some perfect world - but there is bad underneath... if you do not like the Disney Corp. like some people.

Few people see a perfect world with rape and destruction. They are the minority and the evil. It is in the eye of the beholder, but most of us could come up with a few common criteria I think. Questioning the way we think is wrong and others are bad is what we are being brainwashed in today's culture: anti-intellectualism. The experts are wrong, nerds are dorks, nothing can be objective, it is all about how you "feel." Decision making isn't based on feeling, it is based on common rules of morals and values that most common sense folk have agreed upon.


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QUOTE (maryellen @ Nov 5 2003, 09:38 PM)
Disney is a great illustration. They try to create some perfect world - but there is bad underneath... if you do not like the Disney Corp. like some people.

Few people see a perfect world with rape and destruction. They are the minority and the evil. It is in the eye of the beholder, but most of us could come up with a few common criteria I think. Questioning the way we think is wrong and others are bad is what we are being brainwashed in today's culture: anti-intellectualism. The experts are wrong, nerds are dorks, nothing can be objective, it is all about how you "feel." Decision making isn't based on feeling, it is based on common rules of morals and values that most common sense folk have agreed upon.

If you want to really know why we can't have a "mayberry", then take a look at some of the forums that talk about what heaven is going to be like. No one can totaly agree. Everyone has there own opinion, thats all I was trying to get across. I know there are few if any people that want a world full of rape and destruction, it was just an example.
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Posted: 05-Nov-2003, 11:09 PM
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I have worked for Disney and I never had any problems with any of them. I was treated with the most respect while I was there, and I have met a lot of people there clear up to Michael and he was nice.

So the ones with the problems with Disney, Have you ever worked for them?


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I worked a few music gigs at Disneyland in Anaheim back in the late 60s. They partially sponsored The Anaheim Kingsmen Drum and Bugle Corps and we had to reciprocate by providing musicians for the Christmas parade and things like that. Kingsmen played a jazz version of Mickey Mouse Club March going into concert in their field show in early 70s as part of the agreement with Disney.

One of my best friends was the "head" Mickey Mouse in 67 and 68....might have posted a pic of him here somewhere. Last time I heard he was working with the Disney on ice revue but that was years back,

I think Tom Float, a well respected percussionist/instructor in the drum corps field and fomer Diplomat and Kingsmen, is still working with the percussion group that plays on metal ash cans....what are they called "The Ash Can Revue" or something? I went to music classes with another guy who worked in one of the choral groups there as well, but that was in 68 and I cannot remember his name.

Probably could recall a few more here and there if pressed, but that's all I can come up with

So, yeah, I have ties to the Mouswerks.

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QUOTE (maryellen @ Nov 5 2003, 10:38 PM)
Decision making isn't based on feeling, it is based on common rules of morals and values that most common sense folk have agreed upon.

Isn't it? A feeling is conected with ones personal belief system which consist of those morals and values. So, wouldn't they *almost* be interchangable....


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QUOTE (Annabelle @ Nov 5 2003, 06:19 AM)
Elspeth there is a little subdivision developed by the Disney Corp called Celebration. It is right off of Hwy 192...It looks picture perfect..the houses look similar but each a little different in Victorian styling...you pay a fee each year and everyone gets their yard cut on the ssame day so everyone's yard looks the same...the grass is the same level in the whole neighborhood..
although it looks perfect, town square, community playground everything, there is no way the rest of the world is going to go away...
those that live there live with the same dangers that are in our world today...it's nice to wish for but unrealistic...
If you find it, call me and I'll move too!
Annabelle

Here is where people differ...that sounds like a nightmare to me. I would hate for everything to be the same. blink.gif


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Hey guys. This perfect world you're looking for exists. It's called Nova Scotia. wink.gif
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