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Posted by: Lyra Luminara 15-Jun-2004, 09:50 PM
Just wanted to know if everyone believes in the fae and if they incorporate them into their magick, workings, life, ritual, etc. etc.
Also, I think it would be cool for you to post any interesting stories you have involving them.

Not directly involving the fae...but one time during an esbat ritual, me and my friend accidentally danced on the fae cakes...and then it started raining. hahah. it was good times.

Posted by: Aaediwen 16-Jun-2004, 04:34 PM
I like to believe the sidhe do exist smile.gif

Posted by: urian 16-Jun-2004, 05:58 PM
I tend to believe in them. I don't incorporate them in anything butI have a multutude of friends that do. A few are so close to the fae they should be fae themselves...

Posted by: RavenWing 21-Jun-2004, 04:30 PM
This is a topic I have not spent much time on.


So, whatever you would like to share is appreciated by me! I would love to read what you know.

Posted by: Lyra Luminara 21-Jun-2004, 08:26 PM
well, where to begin, the fae have been important threads in all celtic myths. Pretty sure even Queen Maeb was one herself.
They live on the astral plane along with all other supernatural entitys and someones they can come through when the veil is open. Or if we *invite* them so our ritual. Fae can be faerys, mermaids, dryads, etc etc, even vampires and werewolves are considered fae in some beliefs. There can be bad fae also that like to drain psyhcic engery...like incubuses and succubuses and what not. But for the most part all fae are happy to 'play' with you should I say.
They love the tease the ones who walk the plane where everything is real. For instance, have you ever put something somewhere, left, come back and it's gone--only to find moments later that it has reappeared again? Yep...it's them.
I had a friend of mine tell me once that if you feel strongly connected to the faery that you probably have faery blood some way down the line. I find that pretty interesting.

Hope that informed you..

Posted by: CelticRose 01-Jul-2004, 03:57 PM
I absolutely love anything to do with the fae! my whole studio consists of faery dolls and such. I just love them and I love hearing stories about them. Been thinking about changing my avatar to a new fae pic!

Posted by: Aaediwen 02-Jul-2004, 12:48 PM
There's a wonam at work I call 'Na bean sidhe' She decorates her cube much like it sounds like CR decorates her studio. Faeries everywhere! And some nice fae wallpapers too.

Posted by: CelticRose 02-Jul-2004, 04:26 PM
QUOTE (Aaediwen @ 02-Jul-2004, 01:48 PM)
There's a wonam at work I call 'Na bean sidhe' She decorates her cube much like it sounds like CR decorates her studio. Faeries everywhere! And some nice fae wallpapers too.

Aaediwen, a woman after my own heart! thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: Aaediwen 02-Jul-2004, 11:36 PM
May have to see if I can get a pic of her cube and post it smile.gif Pretty cool.

Posted by: greenldydragon 05-Jul-2004, 03:39 PM
I like faeries a lot! That was interesting information though Lyra.

Posted by: Danann 29-Jul-2004, 11:36 AM
I was told by one of my great grandparents that we have Fae blood in our veins. The only way I've seen it is a sensitivity to people's emotions and dreams. It can be very startling sometimes to be off in your own world, and then feel as though something drastic has happened and not know where the feeling has come from. Usually though, I have to be very closly connected to the person to get hit that hard by their feelings.

Posted by: greenldydragon 29-Jul-2004, 02:20 PM
Really? That's awesome Danann!

Posted by: celticwoodsman 21-Sep-2004, 02:34 PM
There is a girl (woman) that I know that who when you look at her, you just know that there is something special about her. Not just her cute demeanor, or the fact of the matter that her job is a fae at a ren faire, but you see her and you just know. I really just wrote it off as being cute, that was until I was coming from my blacksmith shop. I saw her and gave her a hug, and she nearly had a panic attack...I then realized the lore that some fae have an allergy or whatever against iron. Like the belief of silver with lycanthropy and others. I don't know if the truth be it that she is fae or justs really thinks she is....either way it was an odd experience that convinced me more that she was.

Posted by: Ceciliastar1 22-Sep-2004, 10:31 AM
Religiousy I'm kinda not permitted to believe in them....:nervous laugh:: BUT... I love them anyway. When i comes to things like fairys and fantasy I don't nessecarily believe in them, but I love the fact that I can imagine a world full of them. I love "leaving" reality and just being in a whole different world of adventure and magic and fairies...sigh.... I also get really good movie ideas through my daydreaming. I do love them. But just in case there are real fairies I think I'll watch what I say and not make any of them drop dead...like in Peter Pan. Anyway, as you can all see by my title and Avatar I love all things fantasy: dragons, fairies, castles, knights in shining armour, elves, etc.!!!!!!!

Posted by: celticwoodsman 22-Sep-2004, 02:22 PM
I don't know if this goes under the heading of faeries or random spirit take-over. I was drumming around a circle once, and there were people singing to my beats. As I and my woman continued to listen to the voices as we drummed the tune...I swore that I heard what sounded like several distinct voices, yet everytime that I looked over there were only 3 people. After the song ended my woman turned to me and asked if I was singing, I said no. She wasn't singing, and the singers asked us if we were singing too. We all heard different voices singing with us, and there were only 3 people singing as I stated before....the rest of the encampment was about 100 ft away. We all swore that the spirits of the forest near the fire enjoyed the song and the drumming so much that they decided to join in.

Posted by: celticwoodsman 22-Sep-2004, 02:29 PM
Another quick story:
While drumming around the fire for my woman's lugnass celebration, I decided to "show off" a lil bit, and rip a beat on my djembe that I was taught as a slightly difficult riff to play for an extended period of time. As I played the beat, the echo from the base of my drum filled the aire, the fire grew brighter, and my woman and one of my students started to follow this intricate rift with the same or more powerful beats though they never heard the beat before (this I am sure of). When I drum I always dedicate part of myself to the wilderness to show my appreciation for the earth mother, and in this case I guess that the fae liked it so much that the inspired the others to jam the same beat. Soon after they stopped playing I asked how they learned the beat so quickly, and in front of the priestess they just looked at me and said...."what we were not playing?" The priestess and I looked at them with a puzzled look and wrote it off as Mom really liking the music.

Posted by: CelticRose 22-Sep-2004, 04:37 PM
QUOTE (Ceciliastar1 @ 22-Sep-2004, 11:31 AM)
Religiousy I'm kinda not permitted to believe in them....:nervous laugh:: BUT... I love them anyway.  When i comes to things like fairys and fantasy I don't nessecarily believe in them, but I love the fact that I can imagine a world full of them.  I love "leaving" reality and just being in a whole different world of adventure and magic and fairies...sigh.... I also get really good movie ideas through my daydreaming.  I do love them.  But just in case there are real fairies I think I'll watch what I say and not make any of them drop dead...like in Peter Pan.  Anyway, as you can all see by my title and Avatar I love all things fantasy: dragons, fairies, castles, knights in shining armour, elves, etc.!!!!!!!

Celiciastar! In all honesty I don't believe in them either, but yet I love anything to do with faeries. I have a whole studio room full of them. When my church friends come over and see them, I know they must truly wonder about me.........but I don't care. I love my fairy dolls and love the fairy tales and pictures of them. Plus, I just love the fantasy of it all! My imagination just goes wild!

Posted by: Ceciliastar1 23-Sep-2004, 07:47 AM
thanks celticrose! I'm glad you feel the same way as I do. I love the stuff and I don't care what my religious friends say. They can just deal with it! haha!

Posted by: bubba 23-Sep-2004, 08:54 AM
So who says the Fae don't exist? There's as much proof for them as for the worlds Gods. To quote the Bard, There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Man I'm in a devils advocate mood today. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: celticwoodsman 23-Sep-2004, 09:57 AM
I don't want to start any trouble, but a simple question:
I can understand if a person says that they do or do not believe in Fae, thats as easy for a person to say as a person to say that they do or do not believe in a god. That is a personal belief, but how can it be against a religion to believe or not in Fae, I am confused. I know some christians that believe that unicorns existed, and some pagans who believe in some christian happenings...just wondering if someone could elaborate on that a lil bit.

Posted by: bubba 23-Sep-2004, 11:14 AM
I'll give it a shot. Remember, this is entirely my own view of things and not a put down of anyone elses beliefs. To me faith is the acceptance of the Creator in whatever form you understad and all of creation in it's wonders, beauty and magic. In my view Unicorns, the Fae and everything else is possible somewhere, someplace and in some level of reality. Religion is different. Religion is a manmade construct aimed at power, control and regulation. A means of enforcing dominance of a few over the many. Nobody has convinced me that I need anyone standing between myself and the Creator nor does anyone else have more understanding of the Creator, which I think of as the Goddess, than I can have. Fancy robes and a following don't mean anything more than power over others. I think we all need to find our own path, of which there are many to the same destination.

Posted by: CelticRose 23-Sep-2004, 03:29 PM
Oh well, I never intended for this to get into an theological discussion. I just don't see evidence of Faes. I know they were in fairy tales and in paintings and I love them and have them all in my home, because I love the fantasy of it all. But just because you like something, doesn't mean it is really real. I mean look at Leprechauns! The Irish don't even believe in them. It is an American made thing and a great tourist attraction when they go to Ireland and the Irish have played on this and sold lots of items of the Leprechaun because the Americans want it!

Posted by: bubba 23-Sep-2004, 04:35 PM
Like my Grandfather used to say, believe in everything. It might get you in trouble but it makes life a damned sight more colorful. wink.gif

Posted by: CelticRose 23-Sep-2004, 04:50 PM
Well that is true, Bubba. I would like to believe in Faes and Leprechauns and in the meantime I will just fantasize and enjoy them in my home! wink.gif smile.gif

Posted by: celticwoodsman 24-Sep-2004, 09:10 AM
I did not intend on a conflict by any means I just didnt understand, but now I do and thanks to bubba and rose for the enlightenment. I personnally believe in Fae, and here is why. Haven't you ever just sworn that you placed something somewhere, and then it wasn't there 5 min later. Shakespeare's depiction of Robin Goodfellow (Puck) is enough for me to believe. It is just a gut feeling I guess. Catholics pray to St. Anthony for lost goods right? well why could it not be that it was because of another spirit that it is lost in the first place? To put another christian spin on it... St. John Galberg (I know I spelled that wrong) is the patron saint of lumberjacks, my friends pray to him before they enter the forest so that they are safe, and that no "suprises" happen that could cause injury, but when asked they do also say that they pray to the litany of saints so that the saints can help the spirits of the woods understand that what they do is good for the forest. They also joke and say that is why I go with them...

Quick story:
There was one time I was on a timber management cruise, and cut. There just was something that just did not feel right with this day....an unsettling feeling. As we marked the trees for a regeneration plot, the feeling got so strong that all members of the crew just had a feeling that ther was something just not right. So we elected to go back to some of the trees and just inspect them to make sure it was all ok. Well one old maple tree was selected for removal so that there would be more sun into the understory to promote regeneration....We knew it was hollow, and would not last a few more years anyway. The tree has a large cavity by the ground level that measured .75 meters wide by 2.5 meters high...I pointed my flashlight in it, and sure enough I saw a tuft of black fur....not a coon or a skunk, but an Ursus americana....A young black bear settled in the tree for non-diaposic hibernation! Needless to say we re-marked the tree as a "save" and went on our way feeling 110% better.

Posted by: bubba 24-Sep-2004, 09:44 AM
Celticwoodsman, I don't think there's really any conflict at all, just varied views of reality. To me the world is truely a magical place in spite of what Man does. I don't believe our current technological reality is the only one there is any more than I believe this life is all we get. There are just too many things that happen in life that can't be explained by "rational" means to accept the cold scientific philosophy as the final word on existance. I've personally seen far too much to close my mind to possibilities. Far too often I've had a feeling that I should do this rather than that, go this way and not that way with no real idea why. Sometimes it's almost like a quiet voice inside my head. Yeah, I know, some people would say that's crazy, but it's saved my life on more than one occassion and the times I've ignored it or been unable to follow the feeling I've suffered for it. Life is a puzzle inside a mystery.

Posted by: CelticRose 24-Sep-2004, 02:11 PM
I believe that there is definitely a spiritual world out there, but from a Christian perspective. I have feelings that tell me to do this or not do that, but for me it is God's spirit intervening and guiding me, not a fairy. but I sure do love them. I have a poster painting hung up in my studo of a beautiful Fae and I have all kinds of porceleon Fae dolls in there too. It is like walking into fairy land when you go into my studio! I love it!

Posted by: bubba 24-Sep-2004, 02:54 PM
CelticRose, as I've said, different paths to the same ultimate destination. God, Goddess, Angels, the Fae, Allah, whatever a person chooses to believe and follow. The real heart of the matter is faith. Each person has to choose the path that suits them. The paths may be different and beliefs differ, but the goal is the same. I fully respect people who live by the beliefs they hold and don't try to twist them to their own convenience. I'm just one more seeker on the road.

Posted by: CelticRose 24-Sep-2004, 03:02 PM
I hear ya, Bubba! wink.gif What is truth for one is not for another and I respect that in each individual and never try to impose my beliefs on anybody. I was just simply sharing what I personally believe. Glad you understood that! smile.gif

Now do you know of any movies about the Fae out there? I saw one once and I be dang if I can remember the name of it. It was about a family who moved to Ireland and on their property was a mine and when the kids went down searching, they found all sorts of stuff and the Fae were trapped inside. The kids were able to release them and as a result the Fae healed their father who was ill. It was a really neat story.

Posted by: Aaediwen 24-Sep-2004, 04:48 PM
I know that movie! Seen it once, Wouldn't call it a great movie, but decent at least. I don't remember the title either, but seems like it had the word "Blue" in it somewhere... I may be wrong

Posted by: CelticRose 24-Sep-2004, 05:00 PM
Yeah, it wasn't a real terrific movie but the only one I have seen on the Fae! Some were pretty and some were really ugly, I remember. It comes on the TV every now and then. Wish I could remember the title of it!

You would think with all this interests in Faes that there would be movies out there about them! sad.gif

Posted by: bubba 24-Sep-2004, 05:45 PM
The Blue Bird? There's also Willow, The Neverending Story and Legend.

Posted by: Aaediwen 25-Sep-2004, 03:26 AM
Neverending story isn't about Fae. None of those are the movie we're trying to think of.I remember they could change size. That one busted the clay pot that the guy tried to trap him in.... Darned if I could just think of the title...

Posted by: Aaediwen 25-Sep-2004, 03:44 AM
Google comes through for us once again! FOUND IT!

THE FAIRY KING OF AR

Posted by: CelticRose 25-Sep-2004, 03:03 PM
That's it! Aaediwen! The Fairy King of AR! You did wonderful! Thank you so much! I have seen that film a couple of times and I really love it, don't you? smile.gif

Posted by: Aaediwen 26-Sep-2004, 04:06 AM
I'm not running to click a 'buy it now' link like I was with Roan Inish, but I wouldn't mind seeing it again smile.gif

Posted by: celticwoodsman 27-Sep-2004, 07:23 AM
Bubba, I state a non-confrontational appology before I make a statement sometimes because I know that there is a chance for offense. As for movies with fae I think some of the midsummers nights movies are good depictions of some fae life.

Posted by: bubba 27-Sep-2004, 09:08 AM
Celticwoodsman, no apologies nedded with me unless you call me nasty names smile.gif I have some thoughts on the Fae that are a bit different than most. I wouldn't dignify it by calling it a theory since I have absolutely no evidence of any kind for it. I think the Fae were/are a subset of the human species post Neanderthal that may have been relatively widespread but not in large numbers. They were eventually absorbed into the primary human population. The legends of the Fae, Sidhe and others is a kind of memory of them and some of their traits still exist in the human population. I know it's different than most people think about it but it makes an odd kind of sense to me since myths and legends usually have some small basis in fact buried in them. I might be completely off the wall with it, who knows.

Posted by: Shadows 27-Sep-2004, 09:35 AM
OH MY! LOL! Are you talking evolution??? LOL!

I whole heartedly agree that there were many "types" of humans in the past and I agree that you can still see the vestages here today.

Legends do in fact hold truths ( not to be insultive, that is what the christian bible is ) and truths can be found buried in all legends that have survived time.

Posted by: bubba 27-Sep-2004, 09:57 AM
I knew that would get a rise out of someone. wink.gif It just seems to be the most likely explaination for the legends and stories. Not so much evolution as survival of the fittest and the tendancy of a weaker group to join a stronger one for safety. I imagine it'll draw a few chuckles but it's worth considering as a SWAG. (SWAG = Scientific Wild Assed Guess)

Posted by: celticwoodsman 27-Sep-2004, 03:19 PM
bubba: nasty name nasty name tongue.gif

There are cultural explanations to lycanthropes and vampyrism, so why not fae? I find it funny, but at the same time there actually but be a glimmer of truth to it. Travelling circus folk, do they not have some attributes of what we deem fae? Perhaps fae were assimilated and protected by the "Rohmanie" or some type of gypsie tribe....some that have lil use for iron, and spend a lot of time in wooded areas? Even in a slightly fantasy idea....I think its kinda cool. Actually if someone wrote a book with that as a premise I would read it.

Posted by: CelticRose 27-Sep-2004, 05:08 PM
QUOTE (Aaediwen @ 26-Sep-2004, 05:06 AM)
I'm not running to click a 'buy it now' link like I was with Roan Inish, but I wouldn't mind seeing it again smile.gif

Me neither, Aaediwen! I really enjoyed the movie each time I have seen it, but it is not something I would go out and buy. smile.gif

Posted by: Lady Anandrea 03-Oct-2004, 12:18 AM
I am definately a believer in the Fae! There have been too many "coincidences" in the past few years for me to not be.I am also a Faery Oracle reader which helps me relieve stress for myself as well as others,its all in good faith.I believe they are trying to pass on a message to us,as evidenced by the renewed interest in them.The message is if we continue to destroy the earth thru violence,pollution,we not only affect our world but the world of others.The animal world,the plant world,the Fae world.I live in a mountain town,surrounded by beautiful forests,lakes,wetlands and maybe they are called leylines,but there is a definate Fae presence here!

Posted by: celticwoodsman 06-Oct-2004, 02:41 PM
QUOTE (Lady Anandrea @ 03-Oct-2004, 01:18 AM)
.The message is if we continue to destroy the earth thru violence,pollution,we not only affect our world but the world of others.The animal world,the plant world,the Fae world.

that is so right, although we do need resources of the wyld in order to survive, so as long as we borrow them...i think that is ok. I plant 3-5 seedlings (depending on sp.) for every tree I cut....forest restoration, and conservation is the key. Preservation is nice but too utopic for reality. I have felt the presence of Fae or some spirit when in the woods, and I feel that the reason that I am not worse off is because they understand what I have to do, and what I give back.

Posted by: bubba 08-Oct-2004, 08:17 AM
Celticwoodsman, we can preserve plenty, but you are correct in that we need the resourses to survive. We can use those resourses without destroying the ecosystem and make more intelligent use of them. Our biggest problem is dependence on nonrenewable resourses. We desparately need to push hard to replace oil use as much as possible and reuse what we've already mined and processed. There's more profit in raping the land than in intelligent conservation, unfortunately and nothing will change until that changes.

Posted by: freekenny 11-Oct-2004, 08:22 PM
QUOTE (bubba @ 24-Sep-2004, 10:44 AM)
Celticwoodsman, I don't think there's really any conflict at all, just varied views of reality. To me the world is truely a magical place in spite of what Man does. I don't believe our current technological reality is the only one there is any more than I believe this life is all we get. There are just too many things that happen in life that can't be explained by "rational" means to accept the cold scientific philosophy as the final word on existance. I've personally seen far too much to close my mind to possibilities. Far too often I've had a feeling that I should do this rather than that, go this way and not that way with no real idea why. Sometimes it's almost like a quiet voice inside my head. Yeah, I know, some people would say that's crazy, but it's saved my life on more than one occassion and the times I've ignored it or been unable to follow the feeling I've suffered for it. Life is a puzzle inside a mystery.

O'siyo bubba,
~ Very well put! cheers.gif 'Life is a puzzle inside a mystery' wink.gif aye indeed! And it makes perfect sense to me wink.gif
~ For the record, I do believe in the Fae..fairies and mermaids..my choice and I choose not to be closed-minded and not 'buried' too deep in Sociological Reality eek.gif
~~Sty-U red_bandana.gif

Posted by: dragonboy3611 06-Nov-2004, 04:24 PM
QUOTE (celticwoodsman @ 23-Sep-2004, 10:57 AM)
I don't want to start any trouble, but a simple question:
I can understand if a person says that they do or do not believe in Fae, thats as easy for a person to say as a person to say that they do or do not believe in a god. That is a personal belief, but how can it be against a religion to believe or not in Fae, I am confused. I know some christians that believe that unicorns existed, and some pagans who believe in some christian happenings...just wondering if someone could elaborate on that a lil bit.

One can be Christian, or Protestant, or Lutheran, and still believe in some pagan ways. They can believe in Fae, in unicorn, in dragon, and in spirits.

There were never and never will be a set rules limiting the wills of people, no matter what material objects will come into place.

At least this is how I feel. True I believe in god, but I do believe that there are fae, that the trees have spirits, and I believe in walking in the woods, and doing my own version of pagan rituals to the Wood Spirits, leaving my gifts (birdseed), and thanking mother nature.

You don't have to be constricted like a cubical in your religion...

Posted by: Sėmeag 27-Feb-2009, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (Lyra Luminara @ 16-Jun-2004, 03:50 AM)
Just wanted to know if everyone believes in the fae and if they incorporate them into their magick, workings, life, ritual, etc. etc.
Also, I think it would be cool for you to post any interesting stories you have involving them.

Not directly involving the fae...but one time during an esbat ritual, me and my friend accidentally danced on the fae cakes...and then it started raining. hahah. it was good times.

If by "fae" you mean Sidhe, and not the kitschy Victorian fairies, I do believe - in the Sidhe.

I don't incorporate them into my magic for a few reasons. One, only I am involved in my magic; deity, spirit of place and so on have no role. Two, I wouldn't involve the sidhe in my life if I could help it. They are as unpredictable as the weather, and can turn just as quick. unsure.gif

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