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Am fear nach gleidh na h–airm san t–sith, cha bhi iad aige ’n am a’ chogaidh. He that keeps not his arms in time of peace will have none in time of war.
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I studied alot of the worlds faiths including pagan but I too have to go with God and J.C. But don't tell my wife that. She likes to think I worship only her.
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If I appear suspicious and distrustful it’s not without reason; I’ve participated on several Pagan forums where some Christians often felt compelled to inflict their faith upon others with absolute disregard for anyone but themselves (including moderators), smugly ridiculing and denigrating the most deeply held core beliefs of others with evident relish.
If that wasn’t your intent, then I apologize.
To answer the question, the green man and the horned god and the maiden, mother, and crone depending upon the time of the year. I believe that they're all metaphors anyway, mental constructs we create to shrink the infinite into something we can even vaguely comprehend and anthropomorphize into something familiar that we can relate to.
I’m afraid that my favorite deity is also fictional, just like the rest of them. She goes by the name of, Mother Nature, and she still brings me to my knees.
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QUOTE (John Clements @ 11-Aug-2007, 11:58 AM)
I’m afraid that my favorite deity is also fictional, just like the rest of them. She goes by the name of, Mother Nature, and she still brings me to my knees.
I wouldn't call that so fictional As a matter of fact, unless I'm mistaken 'Mother Nature' is a term often used to refer to the mother goddess. And it also seems I remember hearing Mother Nature also going by the name of Dana.
Whatever it is that runs a finger up my back when I read a textbook on fetal brain development or see the face a young dancer who's pouring out his gift like a river, and doesn't even know he has it. Some void at the core of everything that I don't know the name of, and perhaps don't need to, pure potential really, that everything comes out of into form. The new beginning at every cycle of the seasons seems to me to be a trace of it in the world of form.
Not very coherent, I'm afraid. But it is what calls prayer out of me without thinking, in response.
If I appear suspicious and distrustful it’s not without reason; I’ve participated on several Pagan forums where some Christians often felt compelled to inflict their faith upon others with absolute disregard for anyone but themselves (including moderators), smugly ridiculing and denigrating the most deeply held core beliefs of others with evident relish.
I am a Catholic but do not really practice my religion let's just say that I prefer to believe what I want to believe not being "impose" to believe.
If some answers were disrespectful in your eyes, it should not be. It was just a question at random and since we are in free countries you and I and the others, well the least we can do is accept the others ideas and beliefs without aggressive comments.This is called tolerance.
I don't think that my believing in God and being Catholic,Christian,Jehovah witness or Baptist or Hamish or Buddhism have anything to do here.We do not need to get all uptight over an innocent question like that.
You are in title of your beliefs, so others and that is the main point here by this question.To get people to express their feelings and opinions in an atmosphere of camaraderie certainly not trying to inflict anything. And I am sorry to say that even today there are some subject that are better left close to discussion.
Sorry if its offends but its my opinion.
Respectfully yours, LOA.
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"TROUBLE NO ONE ABOUT THEIR RELIGION; RESPECT OTHERS IN THEIR VIEW, AND DEMAND THAT THEY RESPECT YOURS:"
The point is that we (those who are no Christians) have often made the experience of NOT being accepted and even worse, so I can relate to Emmet's feelings. I don't think his post was meant in an agressive way at all.
I believe in Creator and Earth Mother and Sky Father, me sheltered between them. A most powerful thing.
But let me just add a personal remark, a thought that came up to my mind, I don't think it's leading off topic, or so I hope at least:
If you think about the animals, the plants, the rocks and the stars - they are one with the Universe and they do not have an actual denomination like humans often seem to need to recognise. Seems like it is man who makes it difficult? I
Belief is a very personal thing. Creator gives each person his or her own concept of HIM/HER/IT - which ever you prefer.
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I wouldn't call that so fictional As a matter of fact, unless I'm mistaken 'Mother Nature' is a term often used to refer to the mother goddess. And it also seems I remember hearing Mother Nature also going by the name of Dana.
Hi Aaediwn, I think that maybe you have misunderstood the meaning of Mother Nature being my favored deity. You see to me, nature is reality, just stick your head out of the church, temple, or the mosque window, it’s all around us. And just because we have chosen to give nature a name like Mother Nature, or what ever, doesn’t make nature fictional, like all the other fictional deities we have created to suite our own insecurities about life and death.
nature is reality, just stick your head out of the church, temple, or the mosque window, it’s all around us. And just because we have chosen to give nature a name like Mother Nature, or what ever, doesn’t make nature fictional, like all the other fictional deities we have created to suite our own insecurities about life and death.
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Now as for Christians posting things of their faith here, I do not mind if they do but if they think it proper to do so then I would like them to invite more Pagan posts in the Christian sites and in fact I would love to see them support the right of the Pagans to post in their boards. After all did not their god teach love and tolerance? But where was that love and tolerance during the Crusades and the Inquisition, or the Salem Witch Trials. It is fortunate that few actual witches were tried and murdered just a bunch of helpless outcasts from Colonial Society. You see, fellow Pagans based on the history of the Christians it may be that Jesus was prophetic when he pondered whether he would find the faith on earth, after all the Christians themselves are killing Christianity!
Now as for Christians posting things of their faith here, I do not mind if they do but if they think it proper to do so then I would like them to invite more Pagan posts in the Christian sites and in fact I would love to see them support the right of the Pagans to post in their boards. After all did not their god teach love and tolerance? But where was that love and tolerance during the Crusades and the Inquisition, or the Salem Witch Trials. It is fortunate that few actual witches were tried and murdered just a bunch of helpless outcasts from Colonial Society. You see, fellow Pagans based on the history of the Christians it may be that Jesus was prophetic when he pondered whether he would find the faith on earth, after all the Christians themselves are killing Christianity!
By all means, if you have anything positive to contribute to any topic, please do so. just keep in mind that only with an open mind can you truly see truth. I for one, do not have all the answers, and freely admit it. I have not and will not "force" beliefs on anyone. If someone seeks an answer that I may have, they can ask and we can discuss it to our mutual benefit.
Although I was brought up being a Christian and heard all of the warnings about "other" groups, I feel that over-zealousness strikes a discord in the balance of the universe. This is not what Christ wanted. History is rife with examples of over-zealousness everywhere.
Dear Lord, lest I continue in my complacent ways, help me to remember that someone died for me today. And if there be war, help me to remember to ask and to answer "am I worth dying for?" - Eleanor Roosevelt
The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)
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