As Ben Franklin said: "He who sacrifices liberty for security deserves neither."
Maisky;
The following by James Madison does not just pertain to the US but to every country;
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
There are more instances of this in history than any revolution or coup.
You can sign all the petitions around for impeachment. With the money and power behind Georgie Boy, it ain't gonna happen. This of course is an outsiders opinion.
You can sign all the petitions around for impeachment. With the money and power behind Georgie Boy, it ain't gonna happen. This of course is an outsiders opinion.
Camac.
If the Democrats saw it as helping their chances in Nov. it would happen. However, they do not.
You can sign all the petitions around for impeachment. With the money and power behind Georgie Boy, it ain't gonna happen. This of course is an outsiders opinion.
Camac.
If the Democrats saw it as helping their chances in Nov. it would happen. However, they do not.
Slàinte,
Patch
Hi Dave;
You said it yourself just the other day… “Evil prevails when good men do nothing.”
You know even if I were an outsider, I would still sign to impeach those alleged leaders. That being said, did you or anyone else out there sign it?
If impeachment is a fantasy…then so is this country!
You can sign all the petitions around for impeachment. With the money and power behind Georgie Boy, it ain't gonna happen. This of course is an outsiders opinion.
Camac.
If the Democrats saw it as helping their chances in Nov. it would happen. However, they do not.
Slàinte,
Patch
Hi Dave;
You said it yourself just the other day… “Evil prevails when good men do nothing.”
You know even if I were an outsider, I would still sign to impeach those alleged leaders. That being said, did you or anyone else out there sign it?
If impeachment is a fantasy…then so is this country!
JC
JC> I am not saying that people should not sign petitions . What I am saying is that with the money and power behind Bush Jr. it will not happen. If he were to be impeached it would also splatter Cheney and that is a powerful dangerous man. Looking at it from my point Cheney was the puppet master and Georgie was Pinochio. No there are too many powerfull people behind Bush to let impeachment go through. Georgie has played his part and he will now be quietly pushed into obscurity to fade from peoples memory and the powers that be will groom someone else to play the part. The behind the scenes powerbrokers are the ones that "Good Men" should be on the watch for.
You can sign all the petitions around for impeachment. With the money and power behind Georgie Boy, it ain't gonna happen. This of course is an outsiders opinion.
Camac.
If the Democrats saw it as helping their chances in Nov. it would happen. However, they do not.
Slàinte,
Patch
Hi Dave;
You said it yourself just the other day… “Evil prevails when good men do nothing.”
You know even if I were an outsider, I would still sign to impeach those alleged leaders. That being said, did you or anyone else out there sign it?
If impeachment is a fantasy…then so is this country!
JC
JC> I am not saying that people should not sign petitions . What I am saying is that with the money and power behind Bush Jr. it will not happen. If he were to be impeached it would also splatter Cheney and that is a powerful dangerous man. Looking at it from my point Cheney was the puppet master and Georgie was Pinochio. No there are too many powerfull people behind Bush to let impeachment go through. Georgie has played his part and he will now be quietly pushed into obscurity to fade from peoples memory and the powers that be will groom someone else to play the part. The behind the scenes powerbrokers are the ones that "Good Men" should be on the watch for.
Camac
I’m aware of all that Dave, but the question still remains… When are we going to do somethimg about it? (When it’s too late?)
It has to start somewhere, because you know this is going to come to a fight anyway!
You can sign all the petitions around for impeachment. With the money and power behind Georgie Boy, it ain't gonna happen. This of course is an outsiders opinion.
Camac.
If the Democrats saw it as helping their chances in Nov. it would happen. However, they do not.
Slàinte,
Patch
Hi Dave;
You said it yourself just the other day… “Evil prevails when good men do nothing.”
You know even if I were an outsider, I would still sign to impeach those alleged leaders. That being said, did you or anyone else out there sign it?
If impeachment is a fantasy…then so is this country!
JC
JC> I am not saying that people should not sign petitions . What I am saying is that with the money and power behind Bush Jr. it will not happen. If he were to be impeached it would also splatter Cheney and that is a powerful dangerous man. Looking at it from my point Cheney was the puppet master and Georgie was Pinochio. No there are too many powerfull people behind Bush to let impeachment go through. Georgie has played his part and he will now be quietly pushed into obscurity to fade from peoples memory and the powers that be will groom someone else to play the part. The behind the scenes powerbrokers are the ones that "Good Men" should be on the watch for.
Camac
I’m aware of all that Dave, but the question still remains… When are we going to do about it? (When it’s too late?)
It has to start somewhere, because you know this is going to come to a fight anyway!
And you didn't answer the question,
JC
John my Friend; It is not my place to sign it as I am not a citizen of the US but of Canada. I will voice an outsiders opinion but other than that I can do nothing.
You can sign all the petitions around for impeachment. With the money and power behind Georgie Boy, it ain't gonna happen. This of course is an outsiders opinion.
Camac.
If the Democrats saw it as helping their chances in Nov. it would happen. However, they do not.
Slàinte,
Patch
Hi Dave;
You said it yourself just the other day… “Evil prevails when good men do nothing.”
You know even if I were an outsider, I would still sign to impeach those alleged leaders. That being said, did you or anyone else out there sign it?
If impeachment is a fantasy…then so is this country!
JC
JC> I am not saying that people should not sign petitions . What I am saying is that with the money and power behind Bush Jr. it will not happen. If he were to be impeached it would also splatter Cheney and that is a powerful dangerous man. Looking at it from my point Cheney was the puppet master and Georgie was Pinochio. No there are too many powerfull people behind Bush to let impeachment go through. Georgie has played his part and he will now be quietly pushed into obscurity to fade from peoples memory and the powers that be will groom someone else to play the part. The behind the scenes powerbrokers are the ones that "Good Men" should be on the watch for.
Camac
I’m aware of all that Dave, but the question still remains… When are we going to do about it? (When it’s too late?)
It has to start somewhere, because you know this is going to come to a fight anyway!
And you didn't answer the question,
JC
John my Friend; It is not my place to sign it as I am not a citizen of the US but of Canada. I will voice an outsiders opinion but other than that I can do nothing.
Camac (David)
I signed the petition but since Pelosi adjourned the House 8 days early I am not sure whether Kucinich got his time before the committee.
I was surprised at the amount of bipartisan support the matter got today. I was also impressed with Bob Barr's (Libertarian candidate) support and explanation of his position. I do believe he just secured my vote in November.
I was surprised at the amount of bipartisan support the matter got today. I was also impressed with Bob Barr's (Libertarian candidate) support and explanation of his position. I do believe he just secured my vote in November.
Slàinte,
Patch
Hi Patch;
I like Bob Barr too. Where does he stand on a woman’s right to chose, and the separation of church and state? I have to get that book “The Prosecution of George W Bush for Murder”. My guess is, it’s non fiction.
I have heard little lately but within the last year they were planning on charging him with "crimes against humanity" in the international court. I doubt he is ever arrested for that but it will certainly limit his travel. From the impeachment hearing it appears we can try him for crimes against the people in this country though I do not think it has ever been done. This would be a good time to start!
As a Constitutional Conservative he would be against abortion (that can not be changed without a change in the Supreme Court) and should promote the separation of church and state. The Libertarians tend to take a bit of a softer view, especially on social issues. That probably is why the rank and file of the Libertarian party is not happy with Barr at the head of the party. The mail I get from them indicates he has their support though. This could be the best thing that ever happened to them.
Slàinte,
Patch
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