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  Posted: 08-Jun-2005, 07:22 PM
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How many here believe the whole Bible to be equally important? I'm learning that we aren't judged under Old Testiment law but there are benifits to following it. I believe after reading the book the Makers Diet, that I've been missing out on a lot. I've been doing my best to follow a Kosher life style to the best of my ability. I have to say I've never felt better. I've lost 20lbs and feel great. The problem is having Nova Scotia blood, I love my lobster.


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Hello there!

I am also rediscovering the Old Testament. There is so much there of value to Christians. I love reading about the Feasts and how they relate to Christians. I love reading about the Jewish wedding traditions and how it relates to the Church's relationship to Christ. I love reading about the shofar, its origins and future significance. Right now I am reading about that discusses 26 of the names and titles of God, and it is helping me to get a deeper perspective on our God. Also love reading about the Ark of the Covenant and the Temple and how they were foreshadowings of Christ.

I must confess, though, that I have The Maker's Diet and that I just didn't like it. smile.gif I'm glad it works for you though! We have been trying to get back to a more kosher diet too, though not entirely. We've been cutting way back on our pork and seafood intake, but have not entirely eliminated it yet.

Well, take care and God bless you and yours!

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Posted: 09-Jun-2005, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 08-Jun-2005, 08:22 PM)
How many here believe the whole Bible to be equally important? I'm learning that we aren't judged under Old Testiment law but there are benifits to following it. ..

I don't know anything about this diet ya'll are talking about! But as far as believing the whole Bible to be equally important, to me its always seemed like two parts of a whole.
Its quite a kick to read about, for instance, the prophecies about Christ in the OT - then to watch them be fulfilled one by one in the NT.

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Posted: 09-Jun-2005, 05:22 PM
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This is one of the first questions I asked when I started studying Christianity. The question of, if it's the NT which is so important to Christianity, then why does every copy of the Christian Bible even include the OT. It wouldn't be there if it wasn't important. The question, which I believe is being asked here then, is what that importance is.

I see the OT as providing a foundation, with the NT serving as a rather extensive revision, rephrasing, or patch to it. My study has not yet gone deep enough to tell you exactly where I can show the OT explaining what might otherwise be a hole were the NT taken alone. However, you don't have to replace every piece to make vast improvements, but unless every piece is replaced, then your result won't work without the original.

As I stated, my studies haven't gone deep enough to say if every detail in the OT is completely re-written in the NT. But even if it is, I dare say it would help anyone understand the NT a lot better if you also understand the OT along side it.


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Posted: 10-Jun-2005, 04:38 AM
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It is also the other way round :-). Ye understand some of the conflicts between the Jews and the Christians better if ye know what laws they are based upon, i. e. the all - important question about the Last Supper where Christ sais "This is my blood ...". So many conflicts and predjudice came out of that. It gets more understandable though if you know about the holiness of life and the symbol of blood for example and blood was used to paint the doors of the Jews living quarters just before they were allowed to leave Egypt at the time of Moses ...

Apart from that, I agree with one of the previous posters who wrote that the Old Testament is the promise and the New Testament the fulfillment, even though it is a limited perspective, non the less true. But I have to say that only with both parts ye get a picture of God as whole as possible. The aspect of a loving and holy God who doesn't let played with Him follows through the Hole Bible. And you can't have one without the other, else something is missing ... smile.gif



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Posted: 13-Jun-2005, 09:57 AM
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The Old Testament shows us a lot about the charachter (sp?) of God. The books of Genesis, the Psalms, Proverbs, ect. The Setup for the whole human condition (Fall of Adam and Eve). Without the Old Testament we wouldn't understand a lot about what Jesus Did and why he did it. I believe that every book of the New Testament refers back to the Old Testament to help clarify some teachings. Also, and here is what amazes me, the fact we have a bible that has been reliably transmitted down the millenia that is written by close to 50 different physical authors yet there is no disagreement within the pages. (see the Case for a Creator) Unfortunatly there are some Christians that completley ignore the old testament as beeing totally irrelevent. Right now my pastor is doing a series on revelation and it seems that just about every week he is refering back to some prophecy in the old testament that agrees with what John saw.
Because of a conversation with one of my students before the end of school, I have been searching the Bible in response to a question I have, I know we are no longer under the law for salvation but does the Bible ever say that we shouldn't follow the old testament law anyway?


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Posted: 13-Jun-2005, 10:05 AM
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I am one who does not draw a big red line between the OT and NT.

While there are things that Christ has fulfilled, (sacrifices etc) there is much wisdom on the OT that applies to us today.

I certainly believe the dietary considerations to be among them. While we are not saved by anything but grace, I choose to live by the wisdom of the Bible diet, further actually, I am vegetarian (the Bible does not teach that of course) I feel better in my body for it.

Of course, the greatest of the OT chapters relates to God's creation of all things (gen.1&2) this keeps His children from the folly of evolution.


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OK I agree with what everyone has said about the OT, particularly in regards to providing a foundation for the NT.
Yet, I have noticed lately that some Christians adhere to more OT teachings and not the teachings of Christ.
To clarify that statement, I have personally encountered some christians using the OT to trump Christ: taking obscure OT references over what Jesus taught. Especially in regards to polotics. It bothers me.
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Posted: 17-Jun-2005, 12:21 PM
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Mmm hmmm... I know what you mean...

Personally tho, I filter EVERYthing I read in the Bible thru Christ, in the light of what He said and did while He was here. He's my guide, my life preserver, the one I always turn to when I'm wondering what stand to take on any issue. So my views these days may not be PC (politically correct) according to current world views but I've got His word to back me up so, here I stand.


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