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Posted by: Garry Denke 31-Mar-2008, 12:43 PM |
Excavation starts at Stonehenge http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7322134.stm Stonehenge dig starts today http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/latestheadlines/display.var.2158016.0.stonehenge_dig_starts_today.php Archaeologists begin historic Stonehenge dig http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/31/nstonehenge131.xml Excavation begins at Stonehenge http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wiltshire/7322238.stm Archaeologists dig deep to find origins of Stonehenge http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hX2SySFzNGr0UEhtZPzPYb0KIrVQ First Stonehenge dig in 44 years http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/first-stonehenge-dig-in-44-years-802950.html Unlocking Stonehenge's secrets http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7321882.stm Not only are Moses and Aaron's corpses beneath Heelstone but the gold Mercy Seat, the gold Ark of the Testimony, the gold Table of Shewbread, the gold Candlestick, the gold Ephod, the gold Breastplate and the gold Altar of Incense also. According to DI's new 2004 ground-penetrating radargrams all seven (7) are packed inside of the brasen Altar of Burnt Offering 4 ft (1.2m) under Heelstone, with that southernmost gold Ark of the Covenant long axis being east-west. G-D old 1656 core samples indicate the gold Table of Shewbread as northernmost and gold Altar of Incense inside the brasen Altar of Burnt Offering in the center, 4 ft (1.2m) below the Heelstone's base, at Stonehenge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heelstone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scroll_Trench http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heelstone_Ditch A large 8'x8'x4' artifact below Heelstone at Stonehenge? Other than a core sample of it (1656), a magnetic survey of it (1984), an electromagnetic (EM) conductivity survey of it (1984), and a seismic refraction survey of it (1984); no other tangible proof of it being in Scroll Trench where it is circled by Heelstone Ditch exists, save and except for: an electrical resistivity survey of it (1994), a ground-penetrating radargram of it (2004), confirmation geophysical surveys of it (2004), and a confirmation core sample of it (2004). Should this 8'x8'x4' artifact below Heelstone be removed before being stolen? It is right next to a paved highway for God's sake! http://www.panoramio.com/photo/7529895 http://www.flickr.com/photos/garrydenke/979647239 http://groups.msn.com/StonehengeGeologyandGeophysics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stonehengegeologyandgeophysics/ Garry Denke |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 31-Mar-2008, 01:14 PM | ||
Gary Denke, This is quite the list of specific artifacts and corpses to be found under the Heelstone. From were did this list come from? I can't find any reference to any of your statements in any of the links you attached. UlsterScotNutt |
Posted by: Camac 01-Apr-2008, 09:25 AM |
UlsterScotNutt; Where do people come up with these ideas. According to G. Denkes' posting , Stonehenge must be the King Solomons' Mine of all great Archeaological Treasures. Camac. |
Posted by: connor1013 02-Apr-2008, 08:30 AM |
the idea of doing anything to disturbe the area around stonehenge sickens me. while is may not be a "holy" site to everyone i feel that it should be treated as such. to idea that anything of religious value or anything like that being under might be true (i doubt it) but that doesnt mean we should be digging up the area and disturb an area we have no idea how it was made to begin with. sometimes our curiousity gets the best of us, leave stonegenge alone! |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 02-Apr-2008, 09:34 AM |
GD has put in some time and effort in creating his stonehedge world, thats for sure!!! Very creative!!!!!! |
Posted by: Garry Denke 03-Apr-2008, 10:11 AM | ||
A303 / A344 / A360 Stonehenge Improvement Programme There are Three (3) Tunnels to dig (The Pagan, The Druid, and The Wiccan) and an Airman's Corner Stonehenge Visitor Centre to build by the 2012 Olympics. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Airman's+Corner,+Stonehenge Stonehenge Three (3) Tunnels' Names: A303 Stonehenge Tunnel Name - The Pagan Tunnel A344 Stonehenge Tunnel Name - The Druid Tunnel A360 Stonehenge Tunnel Name - The Wiccan Tunnel Stonehenge Three (3) Tunnels' Lengths: The Pagan at Stonehenge - 5.5 kilometres (3.4 miles) The Druid at Stonehenge - 3.0 kilometres (1.9 miles) The Wiccan at Stonehenge - 1.5 kilometres (1.0 miles) Stonehenge Visitors' Centre Name: Airman's Corner Stonehenge Visitor Centre National Trust's going to Avenue Banks to withdraw Construction Funds from Heel Stone Vault for these Three (3) Tunnels and New Visitors' Centre next. http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.2158518.0.new_dig_probes_wiltshires_stonehenge_mystery.php Heelstone dig Next: http://www.garrydenke.com/stonehenge.htm http://www.garrydenke.com/seismic.htm http://www.denocoinc.com/stonehenge.htm http://www.denocoinc.com/seismic.htm |
Posted by: ctbard 03-Apr-2008, 01:33 PM |
Yes, but none of these articles mention anything about Moses, Aaron, mercy seat, golden arches, breast plates,candelsticks, whatever, where did you get that info?? Your skirting the question. |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 03-Apr-2008, 03:30 PM | ||
Yea, but I still enjoy reading it all!!! A lot of effort and thought went into these postings. If nothing else it makes people aware of the historical nature of this Stonehenge dig. I can't wait to see the golden artifacts, like King Tuts tomb!!!!!!!!@ |
Posted by: Keltic 03-Apr-2008, 10:07 PM |
Haven't seen you on here for some time, Garry. Still trolling I see. Wasn't it an ancient fertility symbol a couple of years ago and previous to that, something to do with teeth? Before feeding the troll, take a look at Garry's previous posts. Do a quick internet search on some key phrases in his posts or his name and see what feeding the troll does. |
Posted by: ranger 04-Apr-2008, 12:25 AM |
Thanks, Keltic. I forgot about him from way back when. It seems he may have actually been banned from some sites. |
Posted by: ranger 04-Apr-2008, 12:32 AM |
Yes. I believe it was also an ancient mine converted into a sports arena complete with 4th century BC soccer and Olympiads.....at least it makes for good reading. |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 04-Apr-2008, 08:45 AM | ||
Yup, I looked at all his links and laughed out loud!! Very entertaining! Entertainment is what it is. |
Posted by: ranger 04-Apr-2008, 08:52 AM |
There was actually a good one on one of the cable channels the other day. Some group finished "building" Stonehenge and were able to expirement with it as it may have once been used...in timing with the solstices, etc. They even used small pieces of some type of crytal in the final coat of paint to get the reflective shine off the outer stones. They also came up with a new way of moving the stones. Wish I could remember which channel. Maybe History Internation or Discover? |
Posted by: Lady of Avalon 04-Apr-2008, 04:13 PM | ||
I don't know if it's entertaining or just madness...from which hospital is that man ?oups actually since I found his topic a real piece of by making a farce of that wonderful place. I don't really want to be part of this topic anymore and deleted my previous reply.LOA |
Posted by: A Shrule Egan 05-Apr-2008, 06:39 PM |
He's been spreading this crap and other subjects for many years, all over the internet, with the same results on those forums. People question where he came up with such information and he refuses to give answers. Just adds more garbage as a reply. He also owns an oil and gas exploration company in Texas that actually is registered and files a K-10 form each year. Funny thing was, I could never find that the company really has ever discovered anything. Sounds like it's just a paper company to rub his ego. Simplist thing to do, is ignore anything he ever posts from now on, or better yet, maybe Mac will just can him for nonsense posting. |
Posted by: Leelee 05-Apr-2008, 06:54 PM |
Regardless, I feel that THEY shouldn't be poking around such a sacred place. I don't know too, too much about it (more research later), however the site should be treated with utmost respect |
Posted by: oldraven 07-Apr-2008, 07:24 AM |
Why in the name of time would they call it the Wiccan tunnel? Wicca didn't exist 100 years ago, let alone when SH was built. |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 07-Apr-2008, 09:22 AM |
Why the censorship? Why does his limiited posting of the same thing cause such a vitriolic response? Surely his nonsense is no worse or better than some of the nonsense already posted? His links lead to valid newsworthy info and the ones that lead to his own site are easily spotted and can be avoided, if that is your desire. I have clicked all his links and find nothing to harm anyone or anything, just that his are nonsense and I thought they were creative and funny. Is the animosity due to the style of post, satirical or perhaps the guise of serious news or is it his lack of communication at a personal level? I think we are applying more importance to him than his postings command, or am I unaware of something more sinister going on??? |
Posted by: A Shrule Egan 08-Apr-2008, 08:25 PM | ||
Fred, It's more the fact that I have viewed these kinds of postings by Gary for many years on many other forums and it gets very old. It's annoying and it's not amusing. After the first one or two times of reading his postings on the internet, you realize that he is not stable and has no viable information to back up the garbage that he spews. He either needs to be ignored or canned, is the best way to handle him. |
Posted by: ranger 08-Apr-2008, 08:34 PM |
I have to agree with A Shrule Egan. Like I said earlier, I know that he has been banned from at least one site. I think here also, it's the fact that you have a Celtic site, which is center-most in many of the posters lives, and he always seems to banter on about the same nonsense over and over. It's almost as if it gets to the point that he is making a mockery of the topic that he is posting about. Although I see your point, UlsterScotNutt, we have a lot of freedom when it comes to these forums...you can simply not click on anything he posts. It's actually easier than just walking away. But after so many instances of it....... |
Posted by: oldraven 09-Apr-2008, 05:45 AM |
He's why we have rules against trolls. If he registered with the site, he has had to read the agreement, and is compelled to read the forum rules. He knows the consequences of trolling, and takes the risk all the same. So out with the trash, in my opinion. http://www.celticradio.net/php/forums/index.php?showtopic=2623 7. Don't make claims or statements unless you are willing to back-up what you say. Again, respond to the content, not the person and don't make false or inaccurate statements! |
Posted by: Camac 09-Apr-2008, 07:29 AM |
All though I am against censorship I am in agreement with the postings on this individual. There are rules for the governance of the Forum and if these rules are broken or circumvented appropriate action should and must be taken. Being relatively new to this site I did not realize that the individual concerned was and is notorious for this type of message.I would not presume to comment on his stability or lack of but suffice it to say I think he lives in his own Fantasy World. Camac. |
Posted by: John Clements 09-Apr-2008, 07:30 AM |
This discussion as usual leads me to yet again another question. Are not archaeologists, (or what ever they are called), nothing more then highly touted grave robbers, (who happened to keep good records), and who end up charging us to go see the relics they’ve dug up, in museums? As apposed to grave robbers. Who sells the relics they find, (most likely to antiquity a dealers), who intern sells the relics to wealthy privet collector. Who then, most often donate their collections to the very same museums? My guess is that it’s probably nothing more then a footing, buried under the Heelstone. Anyway, I think some mysteries are better off left alone. I mean, who doesn’t love a good mystery? |
Posted by: oldraven 09-Apr-2008, 08:26 AM |
I have to disagree there. The goals of a grave robber are very different than those of an Anthropologist or Archaeologist. One is driven by greed, the other by the desire to understand our origins and share those discoveries with the world. |
Posted by: ctbard 09-Apr-2008, 09:09 AM |
I think everyone is being to hard on him, I to believe he is spewing crap myself, but, he seems to have some serious mental "issues" going on. I use to work for a visiting nurses agency and I had a patient who sounds an awful lot like our guy here, and he needed to be on med's. for that. |
Posted by: Keltic 09-Apr-2008, 11:01 AM |
My original post was as a 'heads-up' on the rantings of Mr. Denke. It was aimed at the newer members who have not yet crossed the bridge that the troll lives under. Once people know of the rants, he tends to disappear for a while (we know you're lurking Garry). I don't agree with censorship, especially in an area of the forum where you are warned before entering..."Unmoderated forum. Enter at own risk!", unless used to quell major abuse or attacks. Garry will come and go. Ban him under one name, he'll show up under another. |
Posted by: Keltic 09-Apr-2008, 11:02 AM | ||
Have to agree with OR's disagreement |
Posted by: John Clements 09-Apr-2008, 02:02 PM | ||
Sorry guys but I still think that a comparison between a grave robber and an archaeologist’s can be made, because you can’t tell me that some archaeologist’s, (even though they keep really good records of their finds, so they can share them with the world), aren’t also looking for fame and fortune. I just can’t totally buy it, because archaeology is a cut throat business, just like grave robbing is. Let me ask you this: Are they not desecrating graves, and turning tombs into tourist spots, and just how much did it cost you the last time you took your kids to a museum? I’d venture to say a lot. Ok, so maybe I’m getting a wee bit jaded in my old age, and they are different, but not by a lot, (at least in my opinion). |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 09-Apr-2008, 03:29 PM | ||
Well I don't think he is breaking any of rule 7. His postings are obvious fake and are more satire(maybe thats not the word I am looking for) than anything else. He links to real news. His claims and statements fall more under mockumentary status than anything else. If anything , people seem to respond to him personally and not his content. I think the false and inaccurate statement part maybe the rule he is breaking, but the statements are so far from the believable and reality that it enters a different arena and I do not think the content of any of the postings are malicious or have caused to be spread, rumor, innuendo, deceit or any other negative intent. I believe that the negative aspects of posting, like inciting to riot, namecalling, agitation, trolling or looking for trouble, would be the "troll" part. But thats why there are monitors and watchdogs to care for the civility and integrity of forums and I will now stop any and all further comments on these postings, but I will be reading others' thoughts with interest. |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 09-Apr-2008, 03:55 PM | ||
Sorry, JC, can't back you on this one. *** The search for and understanding of our past and the simple act of stealing come from 2 radically different places and mindsets. The overwhelming majority of academia in archaelogy and anthropology are mindful, respectful and understanding on were they tread. I will grant that I do sometimes think that grave exploration and the removal of the body from its original site disturbs me at some level. I am thankful for the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act. Many museums around the world have started to return certain items to their countries of origins. Times and mentalities have changed on how we do things now. There is so much more that is thought through than just taking things for the sake of taking and displaying items publicly. Perhaps , and probable in many cases in the past archaelogy was more of a crash and grab science , but not so today. I have pictures of my grandfather in the Atacama desert of Chile with bones all about him as he dug for items to send back to the States, Chicago Field Museum and the New Hampshire Museum of Natural History. This was in the late teens and 20's of the 1900's. Today he may very well be looked at as nothing better than a graverobber. *** PS , no need to take one for me either buddy!!! |
Posted by: John Clements 09-Apr-2008, 08:25 PM | ||||
To quote Gilda…”never mind”… |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 10-Apr-2008, 09:07 AM |
To quote Gilda…”never mind”… No JC, you bring up a good discussion. I just saw a program on these cliff tombs in the Peruvian jungles and how rare it is to find one intact, even in these ridiculously dangerous cliff places> they have been plundered and robbed for centuries. The archaelogist had trouble accessing them even with modern climbing techniques. Part of the big rush and concerns is the graverobbing for profit and invariable these items end up in private collectors hands or are destroyed. Then the site is lessened in its value for study. So do they leave them alone or take them for study and preservation before they are stolen and destroyed or disappear into the netherworld of the rich, obsessed and private collector? Do they become like the graverobber, just at a different level? Or do they study the items onsite and hope for the best and leave them there? A responsibility is inherent in studying the past and nations and peoples today value their history. Should nations return historical property to their origins, like the Elgin Marbles or countless Eygptian artifacts that were removed? They can just as easily be viewed in museums in their native land as in their current location. Is there a distinction for artifacts and human remains? The cultural view that allowed many items to be taken in the past and the culture we view things today has changed tremendously. Do we repatriate everything, somethings, human remains, valuable items, how far back do we go. Many new nations exist today that were part of empires and colonies when the items left home. All legitimate questions that are not black and white. Sorry for rambling. |
Posted by: stoirmeil 10-Apr-2008, 09:53 AM | ||
Oh, no, this isn't rambling -- it's the heart of the question. A lot of definitions shift when "self-evident absolutes" (in their time) like empire and colonialism fade out. Hey! I know! There's a new Indiana Jones movie coming our really soon. That's real authority on the matter -- if we take the evidence of the typical outcome, good and evil are absolute and immediately recognizable, the good guys are clearly defined by their respect for the indigenous and their vast knowledge of native customs and beliefs, and even the children of the colonized populations know and love them by their purity of intention. Mmmmm . . . wonder where that leaves our culture experts in Iraq. I'm still hurting over what happened to the country's national museum. |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 10-Apr-2008, 12:41 PM |
Following is a link for a quick read on what is happening with the recovery of Iraqi National Museum artifacts. The book referenced . Thieves of Baghdad by Matthew Bogdanos, all of the authors royalties go to the museum. www.independent.co.uk/.../revealed-the-real-story-behind-the-great-iraq-museum-thefts-515067.html - |
Posted by: Camac 10-Apr-2008, 01:46 PM |
During the Heyday of Archaeology, when possession of any treasure of the ancient world was a feather in the cap of the Imperial Powers the ownership of such treasures seemed to be on the basis of "Finders, Keepers" Thankfully we live in somewhat more enlightened times. The modern states that have arisen from the ashes of the old civilization now have enacted laws prohibiting such blatant looting but the question remains do we return that which was taken. Do we dare risk the return of the Ishtar Gate. or thousands of cuniform tablets to Iraq? Does the Berlin Museum dismantle and return the Altar of Pergamum to Turkey? In my opinion no. These great works, though taken under dubious circumstance are at least safe especially from vandalism or destruction by those who would denounce them as works of Satan. At the height of there reign of terror the Taliban destroyed a magnificant statue of Buddha that was carved into a mountain because the Koran forbade Idols. Camac. |
Posted by: Garry Denke 17-Apr-2008, 12:43 PM | ||
The Book says corpses of Moses and Aaron moved by The Ezekiels. Around 50 BC the Sicilian historian Diodorus described the Stone Hedge temple — Hecateus [c 350 BC] and certain others say that in the region beyond the land of the Celts [Gaul] there lies in the ocean an island no smaller than Sicily. This island… is inhabited by the Hyperboreans… there is also on the island a magnificent sacred precinct of Apollo and a notable temple adorned with many votive offerings and spherical in shape — Ezekiel wheels Hyperborea (whirlwind North) temple: Spirit 1 — gold Mercy Seat under Hele Stone Spirit 2 — gold Ark of Testimony under Hele Stone Spirit 3 — gold Table of Manna under Hele Stone Spirit 4 — gold Candlestick under Hele Stone Spirit 5 — gold Girdle under Hele Stone Spirit 6 — gold Breastplate under Hele Stone Spirit 7 — gold Altar of Incense under Hele Stone The brasen Altar of Burnt Offering infolding Seven Spirits Jeremiah the Prophet is Ezekiel the Priest Father Hilkiah and Mother Buzi http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba74/feat4.shtml G-D |
Posted by: Garry Denke 17-Apr-2008, 12:58 PM | ||
Paleolithic 800,000-year-old Acheulian hand-axes from Homo erectus opencast Pembrokeshire Coalfield anthracite Coal cinders and South Wales Coalfield bituminous Bottom ashes indicate pre-Neanderthal coal mining. Homo erectus burnt 800,000-year-old Crosskeys Coal fly-ashes sampled from Pontycymer Class C - Class F bituminous South Wales Coalfield mined Paleolithic cave dates 700,000 years previous to 100,000 years. The German historian, antiquarian, and dentist, Doctor Garry Whilhelm Denke (1622-1699), recovered the 800,000-year-old Acheulian hand-axes and sampled the 800,000-year-old Crosskeys Coal fly-ashes in 1656. Neanderthal following the West-East anthracite Pembrokeshire Coalfield - bituminous South Wales Coalfield trend to their opencast Bristol Coalfield discovery caused Homo sapien Mesolithic dug 3 Coal dusters. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/1216_051216_humans_britain.html http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/literature/coalfields-british.gif http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5317762.stm Rest simple History, under the Heelstone. |
Posted by: Garry Denke 17-Apr-2008, 01:04 PM | ||
Stonehenge Coal Trend http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/literature/coalfields-british.gif http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbhistory/F2233812?thread=5273545 http://www.thisisdorset.net/display.var.2199212.0.0.php Denke is saying that Britain's oldest 3 coal fields surface 40 miles apart, from west to east; Pembrokeshire, South Wales, then Bristol. The first 2 were discovered by Homo erectus 800kya, the third by Neanderthal 100kya, Denke's hand-axes, coal cinders and fly-ashes dated. Later, after the extinction of Homo erectus and Neanderthal, Homo sapiens explored Salisbury Plain for coal, first 10kya (carpark tests), then 5kya (henge ditches). Denke is saying these 3 oldest coal fields of Britain being aligned 40 miles apart is what caused Salisbury Plain coal exploration. Why? Because that area is 40 miles southeast of Bristol in the alignment. That equal distance and direction resulted in Woodhenge, Durrington Walls, Stonehenge, Avebury henges, etc. being dug 5kya by Homo sapiens on Salisbury Plain. None of them had any coal of course, and according to Denke they discovered certain coal bearing "white stone" (limestone vs. chalk) differences, carbonate fossils, as the cause. Because the other henge sites were being lived on by Homo sapiens, unoccupied Stonehenge was chosen for the school, with athletics. Later, 'education' rocks from around Britain's first 2 coal fields, Pembrokeshire and South Wales, were brought for Geology class exhibits. Teachers and parents honored Welsh coal miners on Saturdays, student football was on Sundays. Personally, my thought on this is that Denke is insane, because schools never have athletics. http://www.online-archaeology.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2537 http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbhistory/F2233812?thread=5312359 http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=13284 Garry Denke |
Posted by: Garry Denke 17-Apr-2008, 01:11 PM | ||
Now that Timothy Darvill, Archaeologist and Geoffrey Wainwright, Archaeologist have confirmed Stonehenge broadly mirrors South Wales geology as proposed by Garry Denke, Geologist in the '70s, here are more geological, paleontological, and geophysical papers from their reading list. 1) Denke, G.W. 1973. Stonehenge Phase I: An Openpit Coalfield Model; The First Geologic Mining School. (Indiana University of Pennsylvania) GDG, 73: 1-56. 2) Denke, G.W. 1975. Invertibrate Paleontology of the High Tor Limestone (Lower Carboniferous) and the Upper Senonian Chalk (Late Cretaceous) of Stonehenge. (Arizona State University) GDG, 75: 1-7. 3) Denke, G.W. 1977. Possible Source Areas of the High Tor Limestone (Early Mississippian) Fill of the Aubrey Holes and Heel Stone Ditch in Europe. (Arizona State University) GDG, 77: 1-24. 4) Beus, S.S. 1984. Fossil Associations in the High Tor Limestone (Lower Carboniferous) of South Wales. (Northern Arizona University) Journal of Paleontology, 58: 3; 651-667. 5) Denke, G.W. 1984. Mid-Dinantian (Waulsortian Facies) High Tor Limestone: The First Stones Transported to Stonehenge from the South Wales Coast. (Arizona State University) GDG, 84: 1-4. 6) Denke, G. 1984. Magnetic and Electromagnetic Surveys at Heelstone, Stonehenge, United Kingdom. (Indiana University of Pennsylvania) GDG, 84: 5-42. 7) Lees, A. and Miller, J. 1985. Facies variatian in Waulsortian buildups, Part 2; Mid-Dinantian buildups from Europe and North America. (Revised) Geological Journal, 20: 159-180. 8) Geologist, Denke, G. 1986. The Paleontology of Stonehenge, England. (Arizona State University) GDG, 86: 1-3. (State of Texas, County of Stonewall, Book 393, Pages 848-853) http://www.archaeology.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=402&Itemid=26 Archaeology is a fascinating subject. Enjoy. |
Posted by: Patch 19-Apr-2008, 04:38 PM |
I have read a lot about Stonehenge and the Druids who probably built it. I suspect there is much more to be learned about it Stonehenge. As for the Ark of the Covenant, I believe that disappeared during the Crusades, long after Stonehenge was built. I will not argue something I do not understand. Slŕinte, Patch |
Posted by: Garry Denke 21-Apr-2008, 02:59 PM |
Seven Sisters of Wales Geologic (1656) structure contour maps each pair of Q / R holes within Stone Hedge Double Bluestone Horseshoe indicating that the Ancient coal miners intentionally designed Q / R holes to represent South Wales Coalfield synclinal basin structure. See the Bluestone Sockets 'dumb-bell' The Ancient coal miners Double Bluestone Horseshoe architecture, the Q / R holes and trench are positive Bluestone source identification, and the trench connecting Q trough and R trough depressions for South Wales Coalfield basin structure thrust. Fold 'dumb-bell' for Double Horseshoe http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/webdav/site/GSL/shared/images/education_and_careers/Gower_Field_Guide/GowerSWcoalfield.JPG Westphalian-Stephanian microfloral and macrofloral record in Double Bluestone Horseshoe matches South Wales Coalfield microfloral and macrofloral record of Dr. Garry Denke (1622-1699) Diary (1656) biozone identified 24 biodiverse species. Stonehenge Bluestone Glacial Erratics http://www.soton.ac.uk/~imw/jpg/South-Wales-map-1300.jpg Seven Sisters of Wales had always been recognized historically for a coal pit that was located in the middle of what was the richest source of coal in the world. The pit was named Seven Sisters Colliery after the seven daughters of Evan Evans-Bevan. Q / R Bluestones Seven Sisters Source http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Seven+Sisters,+Neath,+West+Glamorgan,+UK Garry Denke |
Posted by: Garry Denke 24-Apr-2008, 02:49 AM |
H E A T Wiltshire Mystery Ruined Salisbury Plain overlies a very large Coalfield, unfortunately too deep to mine economically. dusters in white -> http://www.coalpro.co.uk/images/coalmap.jpg Pembrokeshire Coalfield -> South Wales Coalfield -> Bristol Coalfield -> Avebury duster Pembrokeshire Coalfield -> South Wales Coalfield -> Bristol Coalfield -> Cursus duster Pembrokeshire Coalfield -> South Wales Coalfield -> Bristol Coalfield -> Durrington Walls duster Pembrokeshire Coalfield -> South Wales Coalfield -> Bristol Coalfield -> Long Barrow duster Pembrokeshire Coalfield -> South Wales Coalfield -> Bristol Coalfield -> Robin Hood's Ball duster Pembrokeshire Coalfield -> South Wales Coalfield -> Bristol Coalfield -> Stonehenge duster Pembrokeshire Coalfield -> South Wales Coalfield -> Bristol Coalfield -> Woodhenge duster http://www.coalpro.co.uk/images/coalmap.jpg dusters in white -> Dr. Garry Denke (1622-1699) Hidden Energy Amalgamate Theory The Coal Stones and The Healing Stones Stonehenge Mining College The First Borean University a) Irish Sea Glacier dumps black Volcanic Bluestone rock erratics at Seven Sisters in centre of South Wales Coalfield faulted Oval of Horseshoes. b) Black Ordovician Bluestone rock mysteriously does not produce fire like plentiful ordinary black Carboniferous Coal rock at circling rim of fires. c) Homo sapiens begin worshipping rare black Volcanic Bluestone rock power over fire at the South Wales Coalfield faulted Horseshoes Oval. d) Preseli Hills springs of black Ordovician Bluestone rock that create water found being the internal reason for mysterious power over fire. e) Superstitions springing up from powerful black Volcanic Bluestone rock that sooths Coalfire burn wounds with water it creates fuel myths. f) Cold lower-class Homo sapiens having to stoke wood fires throughout night desire Hot upper-class Homo sapiens living style of sleeping all night. g) Pembrokeshire Coalfield -> South Wales Coalfield -> Bristol Coalfield -> Salisbury Plain Coal Prospect generated by cold lower-class geologists. h) Elders attribute multiple failures at Salisbury Plain Coal Prospect to absence of The Healing Stones' power at the centre of duster digging area. i) Pigskin leather football (rugby) and lambskin leather volleyball (soccer) geology student falls on field seeing "white stone" younger creatures. j) Upper-class Homo sapiens agree to lend The Healing Stones in their Horseshoes brought by the Irish to lower-class Homo sapiens neighbors. k) Parents' students bring tons of "white stone" from South Wales Coalfield Oval to palaeontology department with deflated pigskins and lambskins. l) 19-18-19 recalcitrant elders 'space'-out '56 basinward Carboniferous Coal rim cave chimneys - cave vents for "white smoke stone" comparison. m) Field rim '56 cave chimneys filled and excess "white stone" piled toward first 3 pine marked dusters styling Pembrokeshire Coalfield outcrop. n) Structural geology of South Wales Coalfield conveyed in each Q and R hole pair separated by thrust trench in the Double Horseshoe model. o) Green sparkling Cosheston watered Irish delivered Old Red erratic Seven Sisters' beacons rock entrance keeping the way of the 3 of pine. p) Heal stone problem, water problem, burn problem, class problem, etc with The Healing Stones' delivery to Coal Prospect duster area made. q) With newest version of 'net' available College volleyball grows in popularity and "Laws of the Game" for football and rugby are now changed. r) Elders attribute continuing Salisbury Plain Coal Prospect failures to centre disconnection with Stonehenge Bottom spring at northeast valley. s) Q and R holes thrust The Healing Stones having no power of creating Coal or water and remaining '56 chimney "white stone" packed at thrust. t) Lower-class Homo sapiens' black Volcanic Bluestone rock loan agreement honoured and return made to Seven Sisters as deeper shoring fails. u) Geologists locate 'higher education' rock nearby and recalcitrant '56 convince orthodox elders 'capping graduates' in pairs makes for success. v) College teaches upper-class Homo sapiens' minimalist logo architecture at its sophisticated best and The Healing Stones a gift back donation. w) Ezekiels whirl Borean wind Wheels north for Pagans, Druids, and Wiccans tunnel Deals shoeing The Healing Stones' Seven Sisters' Spirits. x) Tunnel Engineer I. Kingdom Brunel (1806-1859) and Mining Engineer William Gowland (1842-1922) ancestors College the 3 shoring of tunnels. y) Pagans, Druids, and Wiccans build 30 Y holes fence for 'roped-out' tourists caught climbing rim perimeter bracing and inside mine shoring. z) Borean University entrance at gap 29 Z holes fence for 'roped-in' tourists observing Stonehenge Mining College in action on the Ancient path. http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/webdav/site/GSL/shared/images/education_and_careers/Gower_Field_Guide/GowerSWcoalfield.JPG Palynology is geology, flowers flourish Twice. Carboniferous Whitestone The Healing Stones' Q and R holes are features of similar shape and identical filling, each pair connected by a trench, resulting in a 'dumb-bell' shaped feature. After removal of Volcanic Bluestone from Q and R holes, the center part of each 'dumb-bell' was filled with very tightly packed clean Carboniferous Whitestone chalky rubble, the remaining primary fill of the original 'dumb-bell' from '56 holes (Hawley Holes / Aubrey Holes). The expanded Q and R holes' ends of each 'dumb-bell' shaped feature were then backfilled with dirtier Cretaceous White Chalk from '01 ditch (Altar Stone Ditch / Heel Stone Ditch). The Healing Stones' clean Carboniferous Whitestone filled Q and R holes' trench was auger cored in '56 by Doctor Dentist Garry Denke (1622-1699) as confirmed in '01 by Mining Engineer William Gowland (1842-1922) around mine Stone '56. The Ancient was Right ! Coal IS under that hill ! H E A T Garry Denke |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 24-Apr-2008, 07:04 AM |
Peru is now demanding Yale University return all items taken from Machu Picchu. Yale wants to send back most things but keep a few for further study, while Peru wants them to return everything and they will decide what to return on loan back to Yale. No lawsuits have started yet, but it appears that they may if Yale insists on deciding what they get to keep, ostensible on loan for research and study and decide what it is they want to return. My parents honeymooned at Machu Picchu in 1954. |
Posted by: Garry Denke 26-Apr-2008, 04:44 PM |
Yep, and at Today's Coal Posted Price; the Ancient Prospect now economical. We're going to dig it! -------------------- Stonehenge Building Materials: For those unfamiliar with the 5 basic rock types at Stonehenge; here is a list of them in chronological order of their first arrival. 85 MYA White Chalk - The outcrop sedimentary rock of Stonehenge is Late Cretaceous Period, Santonian Age, calcium carbonate. Late Cretaceous Period outcrop sedimentary rock is the in situ construction material used by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 85 million years old. This stone is called Seaford Chalk Formation rock. White in color, this building material is from Stonehenge Ditch mining area. 3100 BC Whitestone - The oldest limestone sedimentary rock of Stonehenge is Early Carboniferous (Mississippian) Period, Arundian Age, calcium carbonate. Early Carboniferous Period limestone sedimentary rock is the first (1st) construction material imported by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 340 million years old. This stone is called High Tor (Birnbeck) Limestone Formation rock. White in color, this building material is from South Wales Coalfield mining area. 3000 BC Cosheston - The oldest sandstone sedimentary rock of Stonehenge is Devonian Period micaceous silicate. Devonian Period sandstone sedimentary rock is the second (2nd) construction material imported by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 408 million years old. This stone is called Senni Beds (Old Red Sandstone) Formation rock. Green in color, this building material is from South Wales Coalfield mining area. 2600 BC Bluestone - The volcanic rock (oldest geologically) of Stonehenge is Ordovician Period intrusive igneous diabase (dolerite) and extrusive igneous felsite (rhyolite) and tuff (basic). Ordovician Period igneous rock is the third (3rd) construction material imported by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 470 million years old. This stone is called Ordovician Volcanic rock. Black in color, this building material is from South Wales Coalfield mining area. 2200 BC Sarsen - The youngest sandstone sedimentary rock of Stonehenge is Oligocene-Miocene (Tertiary) Period silicate. Oligocene-Miocene Period sandstone sedimentary rock is the fourth (4th) construction material imported by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 24 million years old. This stone is called Reading Formation rock. Gray in color, this building material is from Marlborough Downs mining area. Note that this order is consistent with both rock transport theories; rock transported by a glacier and rock transported by the Ancient. Both! One twice! Hope this helps! http://www.open2.net/forum/showthread.php?p=22421 http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbhistory/F2233812?thread=5312359 The Ancient! Garry W. Denke Geologist/Geophysicist Denke Oil Company (DOC) Wildcat Station, P.O. Box 866488 Plano, Texas 75086-6488 [email protected] http://www.garrydenke.com [email protected] http://www.denocoinc.com Tel: 972-422-8268 Fax: 972-422-7868 Cell: 972-768-4631 DOC: 570-788-5282 |
Posted by: Garry Denke 26-Apr-2008, 04:48 PM |
STONEHENGE: Replica of Mine Seventy Seven Stonehenge Sarsens Shoring Seven Sisters Support Seventy Seven Stonehenge Sarsens Shoring Seven Sisters Support "Old Red after White, then Black, and Pale" ~King Arthur Crop and Circle The First Stone of Stonehenge is "white stone", Cretaceous and Carboniferous. Dr Garry Denke (1622-1699) found them, while coring at Stonehenge, in 1656. They are the key to understanding Salisbury Plain's past, both Mesolithic and Neolithic archaeology. The First Stone of Stonehenge is very important, both of them germane, Dr Garry Denke's. Garry Denke's public papers are in Official Public (Deed) Records, note the word "public". Recorded over a decade(s) ago, for the Public, and free for kids. Not like Journal of Paleontology, Geological Journal, et al, that charge kids. Garry Denke's public papers filed on FidoNet also, over a decade(s) ago. Thanks to Tom Jennings, FTP, Usenet, BBS, etc. Flora and Fauna Altar Stone was in Stonehole 96 Heelstone was in Stonehole 97 (left Stone below Heelstone) Bow Wow Fido |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 26-Apr-2008, 06:43 PM |
Ok, now I am starting to see what others are talking about with you Garry. Too much of the same old same, addressed to a very eclectic audience that I am sure is very limited, you never really engage one on one, and seem to have your own unknown agenda that others really can't partake in because you obviously don't wish to engage in any truly meaningful conversation. Once one reads all of the same there is nowhere else to go and then it is no longer entertaining, informative, stimulating, engaging or then , meaningful. I'm sorry, but I enjoyed your postings the first few times but now it is repetitive and non topical to anyone elses interest. It can't always be all about you. A fan , slowly losing interest. UlsterScotNutt |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 26-Apr-2008, 07:26 PM |
"Taliban destroyed a magnificant statue of Buddha that was carved into a mountain because the Koran forbade Idols." Part of this is true, but the biggest reason they decided to finally destroy the 2 Buddhas at Bamyan had alot to do with spite and revenge. They, the Taliban were pissed off that other nations were willing to give significant amounts of money to save and preserve the statues and yet were totally unwilling to contribute money for humanitarian aid. They finally got so ticked off at all the offers to buy the statues and for offers that would give money to protect and preserve them with explicit clauses that the money could not be used for other forms of aid, they decided to spite the world. These statues of Buddha at Bamyan had been in Taliban discussions before and were not truly threatened until this last offer. They could not understand how a rock statue could be more valuable than human life. Of course their thought processes also carried alot of mental baggage along with it, to say the least Bottom line, they were destroyed and are being attempted to be restored now and hopefully the Taliban will go the way of the DoDo, never to return. |
Posted by: Garry Denke 26-Apr-2008, 09:18 PM | ||
UlsterScotNutt: What specifically do you not understand? Best to ask quickly, for my time is short... SatanTheDevil --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grander key (anagram) [(G-D)^1/2] = Wizard Frequency -- Force = Momentum-[(G-D)^1/2] Wizard G (gravitation) D (density) Merlin levitated the stones -Twice! Power = Energy-[(G-D)^1/2] Wizard G (gravitation) D (density) Merlin levitated the stones -Twice! Energy = H-Bar-[(G-D)^1/2] Wizard G (gravitation) D (density) Merlin levitated the stones -Twice! Current = Charge-[(G-D)^1/2] Wizard G (gravitation) D (density) Merlin levitated the stones -Twice! -- Dark energy (anagram) G-D = Wizard Merlin --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Posted by: Garry Denke 28-Apr-2008, 11:04 PM |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/stonehenge/img/stonehenge_416.gif Visualise the Heated Home Shoring below Ground Level like this: -depth varies- GL----------------------------------------------------------------------------------GL 2'-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------2' 4'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------4' 6'-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------6' Coal Seam----------------------S--T--O--N--E--H--E--N--G--E-----------------------Entrance Coal Seam----------------------S--T--O--N--E--H--E--N--G--E-------------------------Entrance Coal Seam----------------------S--T--O--N--E--H--E--N--G--E---------------------------Entrance Coal Seam----------------------S--T--O--N--E--H--E--N--G--E-----------------------------Entrance 16'-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------16' The Ancient teaching: In the event Home Heating is ever found; This is the Shoring. Dr. Garry Denke's Diary Lead: http://hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/introduction_to_coal_as_a_home_heating_fuel Coal cave Home Heating Garry Denke Study Now: http://www.accuracyingenesis.com/wldcoal.gif Homo erectus and Coal Done With Britain: http://www.coalpro.co.uk/images/coalmap.jpg Salisbury Plain dusters Thanks! Bye |
Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 29-Apr-2008, 10:42 AM |
POOF, coal ash in the wind. While it burned I enjoyed the warmth, then it went out and no longer served any purpose, so off to the ash bin for disposal. |
Posted by: stevenpd 29-Apr-2008, 02:15 PM | ||
Evidently I am not alone . . .
http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=187076&page=3 There is a Denke Oil Co in Plano, Texas started in 1984 identified with oil/gas exploration services. Going back further, (June 24, 2003) he has posted an interesting commentary entitled http://www.scienceagogo.com/message_board5/messages/214.shtml At any rate, the earliest reference that I could find is in 1996 with the same cryptic nonsense. |
Posted by: A Shrule Egan 29-Apr-2008, 06:57 PM | ||
Fred, maybe now you will start listening to me. |
Posted by: Aaediwen 29-Apr-2008, 10:05 PM |
There is a lot of bad karma flying back and fourth in here on both sides. I am locking this thread pending further investigation of trolling and troll-baiting. |