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Posted by: MacEoghainn 05-Jun-2004, 03:46 PM
A great descendant of Celtic ancestors, a great American, and a great Man went on to meet his maker today. God Bless Ronald Reagan and comfort his family in their time of need.

Posted by: MDF3530 05-Jun-2004, 10:32 PM
My condolences go out to the family of Ronald Reagan. My whole family knows how painful it is to watch Alzheimer's slowly kill a loved one. That disease claimed my grandmother and is claiming my uncle.

Posted by: MacEoghainn 06-Jun-2004, 03:29 PM
President Bush's Remarks Upon the Death of President Ronald Reagan

Ambassador's Residence
Paris, France

THE PRESIDENT: This is a sad hour in the life of America. A great American life has come to an end. I have just spoken to Nancy Reagan. On behalf of our whole nation, Laura and I offered her and the Reagan family our prayers and our condolences.

Ronald Reagan won America's respect with his greatness, and won its love with his goodness. He had the confidence that comes with conviction, the strength that comes with character, the grace that comes with humility, and the humor that comes with wisdom. He leaves behind a nation he restored and a world he helped save.

During the years of President Reagan, America laid to rest an era of division and self-doubt. And because of his leadership, the world laid to rest an era of fear and tyranny. Now, in laying our leader to rest, we say thank you.

He always told us that for America, the best was yet to come. We comfort ourselves in the knowledge that this is true for him, too. His work is done, and now a shining city awaits him. May God bless Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: Shamalama 07-Jun-2004, 12:03 PM

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Posted by: Raven 07-Jun-2004, 12:34 PM
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Posted by: Shamalama 07-Jun-2004, 01:27 PM
I've really debated myself as whether to post this or not. Personally I thought Reagan did a great job as President. And I don't want to do anything that will cast a negative light on his passing.

But...

The Democrats, and Liberals, claim themselves to be the more compassionate group. They generally denounce war, and they uphold the rights of every niche group in America, while at the same time calling Conservatives racist, fascists, and generally evil people. Nice.

So I decided to venture over to DemocraticUnderground.com to see their take on Reagan's death. Here's a sample from http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1726149&mesg_id=1726149&page=

- I've waited for this day for 24 long years, now i'm celebrating. i don't care what killed him, alzhiemers or the black plague, i'm glad he's dead and i don't care how many times i'm scolded or chastised for it. the day he took office was the most depressing day of my life, and i swore, that on the day he died, i'd drink a toast of celebration and figuratively p--- on his grave and have said so to several gingrich sucking reagan worshipping d--kheads. f--- ronald reagan, and i hope in some small way my f--- you counteracts all the b------ we are going to be hammered with for a f---ing month after the fall of this 'greeeeeaaaaaat human being'. f--- you ronnie, here's to ya pal. see ya in hell.

Wow. Here's others (titles only):

- woo woo!
- Raise my glass too!
- Yup, one less Nazi terrorist in the word, w. the death of Ronald Raygun.
- I second that!
- I third it!
- I agree with this statement
- Goes double for me.
- Well said
- Amen!!!
- Did the fam euthanize the old Nazi?
- I am partying right along with you
- ya i agree
- Time for a toast!
- couldn't agree more...
- Raising a can of Mountain Dew
- only the good die young, the evil just keep living & living & living...
- i p--- on your precious reagan's grave
- PARTY!!!!!!!
- Putting on my dancing shoes!
- hell is one citizen richer today
- I love it..my thoughts excatley!!! Lets toast!!!!
- Celebrate folks!!! F--- all republican fascist!!!!
- Well-said!

There also is a similar opinion by Greg Palast of the UK Guardian at
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=336&row=0
(although the link appears to be overwhelmed).

Were you listening to 'Prairie Home Companion' your local public radio station on Saturday? It's a live broadcast, you know. In the middle of that broadcast Garrison Keillor told the audience that Ronald Reagan had died. You could hear liberals in the audience cheering and clapping.

This morning CNN's Candy Crowley said that Reagan was the president who cut taxes but almost doubled the deficit. Not one mention of the tremendous economic growth that followed Reagan's tax cuts.

Perhaps Reagan's greatest accomplishment was his ending of the Cold War. Now this is one accomplishment the left will never give Reagan credit for. The very moves he made to bring the Soviet Union to its knees were moves that were vehemently opposed by the left. Stationing Pershing nuclear-tipped missiles in Western Europe would be a prime example. Reagan did this to answer threatening Soviet moves. The left said Reagan was going to hasten a nuclear war with the Soviets. The Soviets saw it differently. They saw it as resolve. It also became clear to them that this president would match them move for move. The Soviet Union soon spent itself into insolvency.

Just last week Thomas Friedman at the New York Times wrote an article giving credit for setting in motion the chain of events that brought down the Soviet Union to George Bush (41), to Brent Scowcroft and James Baker, and to European leaders such as Margaret Thatcher and Francois Mitterrand. There was no mention of Ronald Reagan. Why? Did any Democratic president ever ask the Soviet Union to tear down the wall in Berlin?

Even actor Danny Glover, speaking at an anti-war rally in Los Angeles this weekend, said, "People want to elevate him to some mythic level; they have their own reason for doing that." Typical liberal. Everyone has an agenda but them.

I guess the Liberal/Democrat stance can best be summed up like this: "Now it's 'Downtime for Bonzo'. My friend always said that he would die on a liberal holiday. Any day he died would be a liberal holiday!"; tony jones - http://www.democrats.org/blog/comment/00010708.html

Nice.

Just imagine the media outrage, worldwide, if anything approaching this was said at Clinton's death.

Posted by: Macfive 07-Jun-2004, 04:21 PM
I'm moving this thread up to the general discussion area for the next week since we will be having the first state funeral in over 30 years in the U.S.

What is amazing about Ronald Reagan is that he appealed not only to republicans, but also to democrats and independents. I think todays politicians could learn a bit from studying this man. Forever the optimist, good hearted and a bringer of people together. He did not engage in attacks and negative ad campaigns. A true diplomat.

For better or worse, he changed the landscape of America even to this day. Made us proud to be Americans again and restored hope and confidence in a nation after the bitter memories of Vietnam.

Above all else he was a leader, and right or wrong, he believed in what he was doing and did not base his thoughts or ideas on the polls.

My most vivid recollection of Reagan is when he was shot by John Hinkley, his thoughts after the Space Shuttle Challenger Accident, Jelley Beans, how devoted he was to his wife, and his famous speech "Mr. Gorbochev, tear down this wall".





Posted by: WizardofOwls 07-Jun-2004, 06:13 PM
I am sorry for Ronnie's family and I am sorry for his suffering but, and I hate to say this, my most vivid memory of Ronald Reagan is a bad one.

My father died in '78 when I was still a freshman in high school. I was able to draw Social Security benefits. My mom put it in a bank account for me hoping to keep it to help me with my college education, but she ended up having to use quite a bit of it just to make ends meet at the house. Her single income just wasn't enough to take care of all of the bills as well as 3 kids at home.

Any way, my senior year of high school was '81-'82. That year, Ronnie Reagan signed a law into effect that said if you were 17 and drawing Social Security beneftis you had to be enrolled as a full-time college student or you would lose your benefits. I was still a senior in high school! That meant I had to go to full-time high school calsses during the day and leave straight from high school to go to our local community college for full-time night classes! And I wasn't the only one! There were about 8 kids in my senior class who had the same dilemma! This took just about all of SS money, which meant things were even tighter at home for my mom.

My high school grades plummeted and my college grades suffered tremendously! I didn't have enough time to get all of my homework done much less find time to study! And I lost right around 40 pound during this time because I didn't have time to eat! I had avoided getting my driver's license simply because I didn't have need of it before, but I had to go get it just for my trips to school!

Anyway, this kinda put a damper on my feelings toward Ronnie as a president.

Even so, rest in peace big guy. At least now you're not suffering any more!

P.S I wouldn't dream of saying some of the things that were posted in that other post accredited to democrats! How disrespectful and horrible! Whether or not you agreed with his politics, he still deserves a little human kindness! Some people just have no couth or taste whatsoever!

Posted by: maggiemahone1 07-Jun-2004, 07:01 PM
It is very sad when anyone suffers with Alzheimers. Sad when people loose their compassion for someone just because they don't agree with their politics. I didn't agree with all that Reagan did but he was a person who suffered tremendously, not only him but his whole family. Regan's race is done upon this earth and now he will rest.

maggiemahone1

Posted by: BluegrassLady 07-Jun-2004, 10:03 PM
If you have ever looked at pictures of any president before they took office and after they left office, I am sure you will have noticed how much they all aged. The pressure has to be unbelievable. I personally would not want a loved one to have the job to lead our great country. Regardless of what our country does, we are criticized. Whether or not I agree with the actions of any president while in office, I honestly believe that they are doing the best they can under the circumstances. Maybe I am naive, but I think every presidrent has done some good while in office.


My prayers go out to the entire Reagan family.

Posted by: Sea Dog 08-Jun-2004, 01:14 AM
I spent most of my active duty under Carter, suffice it to say he and some of his advisors were tremendously naive. Maybe someday I'll relate the less than gallant duties we had to perform on specific orders that were derived in Foggy Bottom and Carter gave to the Navy to perform. Then he couldn't even get us paid a couple of years, no passed budget, he couldn't even get a continuing resolution to at least pay the troops. Ms. Sea Dog had a job so we could get by until the Eagle flew again but the junior enlisteds had some real tough times.

Then President Reagan came on board and the morale and spirit in the Armed Forces just skyrocketed. We knew things were going to get better and they did. We had had to live with politicians, pundits, pusillanimous pedants and professors that espoused the doctrine of moral relativism, that the Soviet Empire was the moral equal if not moral superior to the United States. That to survive we had to appease and surrender to the progressive empire to avoid nuclear annihilation, that Reagan would have us crisped immediately. We had a Commander-in-Chief that was a realist, he knew who and what the enemy was, who the good guys were and who the bad guys were. And he wasn't afraid to stand up and say it.

He took this country and the world and got them turned around and pointed in the right direction and we are all the better for it. thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: SCShamrock 08-Jun-2004, 08:12 AM
I am not the least bit sad at the passing of Ronald Reagan. No, I'm very greatful that he died. The reason for my joy? In my estimation, never has there been a man more deserving of final rest from all his work. After years of suffering, on the heels of such a life, I'm so glad the pain and anguish is all over, for Ronald Reagan, and his entire family. I pray that God has taken him with angels of mightily swift wings to his mansion in Glory.






Ronald Reagan took a nation that was greatly devided, and united it. He took a people that were downhearted, and lifted them. He took a military that lacked "umph" and umphed it. He took me, a young man with little direction and zero political sense, and made a patriotic soldier out of him. I proudly served under Ronald Reagan. In Grenada, I fought tyranny with him as my leader, and did so with much honor. Not the honor, duty, country type of honor, no, I WAS HONORED to represent him on the battle field. For eight years I watched as our country became stronger, and greatly more confident. I saw him end over 2 decades of fear with the craftiness and nobility of a dyed-in-the-wool leader, seemingly single-handedly dissolving the tug-of-war that held two nations tetering on the brink of dissaster. I have great respect for the memory of this wonderful human, and can only pray that some day, our nation will once again be BLESSED with a leader of this calibre.

I love you Ronald Reagan, rest now with your God and Saviour. Peace be yours forever.

Posted by: dundee 08-Jun-2004, 08:38 AM
QUOTE (SCShamrock @ 08-Jun-2004, 09:12 AM)
I am not the least bit sad at the passing of Ronald Reagan.  No, I'm very greatful that he died.  The reason for my joy?  In my estimation, never has there been  a man more deserving of final rest from all his work.  After years of suffering, on the heels of such a life, I'm so glad the pain and anguish is all over, for Ronald Reagan, and his entire family.  I pray that God has taken him with angels of mightily swift wings to his mansion in Glory.

Ronald Reagan took a nation that was greatly devided, and united it.  He took a people that were downhearted, and lifted them.  He took a military that lacked "umph" and umphed it.  He took me, a young man with little direction and zero political sense, and made a patriotic soldier out of him.  I proudly served under Ronald Reagan.  In Grenada, I fought tyranny with him as my leader, and did so with much honor.  Not the honor, duty, country type of honor, no, I WAS HONORED to represent him on the battle field.  For eight years I watched as our country became stronger, and greatly more confident.  I saw him end over 2 decades of fear with the craftiness and nobility of a dyed-in-the-wool leader, seemingly single-handedly dissolving the tug-of-war that held two nations tetering on the brink of dissaster.  I have great respect for the memory of this wonderful human, and can only pray that some day, our nation will once again be BLESSED with a leader of this calibre.

I love you Ronald Reagan, rest now with your God and Saviour.  Peace be yours forever.





well met scshamrock.... what a great man he was! what a great man he was

Posted by: BluegrassLady 08-Jun-2004, 10:55 AM
I agree with dundee, SCShamrock. You expressed it very eloquently.

Posted by: MacEoghainn 08-Jun-2004, 04:27 PM
QUOTE (BluegrassLady @ 08-Jun-2004, 12:55 PM)
I agree with dundee, SCShamrock.  You expressed it very eloquently.

I agree with BluegrassLady and dundee, what a great post!!! thumbs_up.gif

During my stint in the US Navy I served under four Presidents, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and Ronald Reagan. I was never more proud of my uniform, my Country, or my Commander in Chief than under Ronald Reagan.

God Bless and keep Ronald Reagan, God Bless the United States of America,

MacE

PS: Thanks Macfive for moving this thread to the General Discussion Forum! thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: SCShamrock 08-Jun-2004, 04:29 PM
QUOTE (Sea Dog @ 08-Jun-2004, 02:14 AM)

We had a Commander-in-Chief that was a realist, he knew who and what the enemy was, who the good guys were and who the bad guys were. And he wasn't afraid to stand up and say it.

He took this country and the world and got them turned around and pointed in the right direction and we are all the better for it. thumbsup.gif

Sea dog, I quote you for reasons which may or may not be obvious immediately. Your sentiments are exactly correct. But what is not necessary to say in memory of the man, I believe, is a relevance of contrast that should be witnessed to, if not exploited. The morale of the military did change. But so did the morale of the civilian. That core group of Americans who did, and still do hang on to the dream of rightness without compromise. That feeling that together, the American people can be the cornerstone of liberty and freedom upon which ALL other nations would like to build. That idealogy has long endured, but under a fatally diminishing percentage of the population. Touchy-feely, tolerant, all-inclusiveness and the outright celebration of all that is vile and immoral have a strangle hold on our society. But there is a man in office right now who would love to change all that. GW Bush, while having little chance of ever achieving the status of a Ronald Reagan, has in his being the same formula for greatness, and the leadership potential to set the nation right with God. How long until we see this and promote it for the good of a God inspired nation? I don't mean to take this thread in the wrong direction, and no reply to my thought here is expected. My intention is to hopefully inspire any here who revered President Reagan, that may not appreciate President Bush, to re-evaluate this current presidency. Look at what he's trying to do. Look at the choices of Supreme Court Justice nominees. Look at his attempts to protect the lives of the unborn, to secure a centuries-old tradition of the sacred union of a man and his wife. On 9/12/2001, we all needed a leader. George W Bush answered that call, and was the pillar of strength and the voice of resolve we all were looking for.

To sum up what I'm saying.......we shouldn't let the spirit of the Reagan years be buried with his body. That spirit could well live on, if we will only support what we already have.

Posted by: maisky 08-Jun-2004, 04:35 PM
Whether Reagan's decisions were right or wrong (he had both) he always carried them out with style. I had great respect for him.

Posted by: Annabelle 09-Jun-2004, 07:23 AM
I believe we have seen one of the very best President's we will ever see in our lifetime pass away.
Ronald Regan was definitely a leader who had compassion, understanding and strength mixed with a great sense of humor to lead this nation.
Yes, I voted for him and I believe he did his very best for this country.

Posted by: dundee 09-Jun-2004, 08:48 AM
[QUOTE= On 9/12/2001, we all needed a leader. George W Bush answered that call, and was the pillar of strength and the voice of resolve we all were looking for.

To sum up what I'm saying.......we shouldn't let the spirit of the Reagan years be buried with his body. That spirit could well live on, if we will only support what we already have.[/QUOTE]


aye, well met again scshamrock well spoken indeed....... thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: Billsnerdness 10-Jun-2004, 03:43 PM
Ronald Reagan will be remembered for what he gave us....a sense that we COULD and SHOULD be proud of what American's had accomplished. He was comfortable with himself, was a patriot and was devoted to his wife and family. Not a bad legacy. While not everyone agreed with all of his policies, most people seemed to respect him for having strong opinions and the hutzpah to face his opponents. My thoughts and prayers are with his family as they go through this very long funeral process. Reagan may be gone but he will not be forgotten.

Posted by: wardrumplayer 10-Jun-2004, 04:43 PM
Sometimes Americans get it right. That is why we have the form of Government we do. There have been great Presidents and not so great Presidents. Mr. Regan was one of those who had a true vision of where we as a nation wanted to go. That is why the majority elected him. He was not afraid to act on his convictions and the mandate the people of American gave him He will always be in our heartss as a true good man who did the best job he knew how to do in the position he was given by the people. President of The United States of America.

Posted by: MacEoghainn 10-Jun-2004, 06:19 PM
A poem that I think applies to R.R.

Not, how did he die? But, how did he live?
Not, what did he gain? But what did he give?
These are the merits to measure the worth
Of a man as man, regardless of birth.

Not, what was his station? But, had he a heart?
And how did he play his God-given part?
Was he ever ready with word or good cheer
To bring a smile, to banish a tear?

Not, what was his church? Nor, what was his creed?
But, had he befriended those really in need?
Not, what did the sketch in the newspaper say?
But, how many were sorry when he passed away?

-Edythe Draper, Draper's Book of Quotations for the Christian World (Wheaton: Tyndale House Publishers, Inc., 1992). Entry 7423.

Posted by: SCShamrock 11-Jun-2004, 04:13 AM
Excellent MacE!!!!

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Posted by: Herrerano 11-Jun-2004, 11:09 AM
The final hymn of the funeral service in the National Cathedral.


The Mansions of the Lord


To fallen soldiers let us sing,
Where no rockets fly nor bullets wing,
Our broken brothers let us bring
To the Mansions of the Lord

No more weeping,
No more fight,
No friends bleeding through the night,
Just Devine embrace,
Eternal light,
In the Mansions of the Lord

Where no mothers cry
And no children weep,
We shall stand and guard
Though the angels sleep,
Oh, through the ages let us keep
The Mansions of the Lord




Posted by: Annabelle 11-Jun-2004, 09:08 PM
As I sat here watching the funeral of one of our greatest presidents I could not help thinking of how much Nancy Reagan has endurd today with such a along funeral procession and the customary naval 4-f-18 fly over, the singing and the procession of people there to pay their respects to the President.
She looked exhausted and drained.

Posted by: MacEoghainn 11-Jun-2004, 09:11 PM
Goodbye Mr. President, God Speed.

Posted by: Shadows 11-Jun-2004, 09:24 PM
The man was just that... a man.
Not a god he be... there were greater before him and will be more to follow...
Rest your soul Mr. Regan, your efforts were noticed and well recieved...
... but all did not feel as you believed.

Posted by: BluegrassLady 11-Jun-2004, 10:50 PM
I agree, Annabelle, Nancy Reagan did look exhausted. Nancy and Ronald Reagan truly shared a loving and committed marriage. It must have been heartbreaking to watch the man you loved slip away from you to where in the end he didn't know you. However, she found the strength to be what Ronald Reagon needed the most, right through to the end.

Now, let's hope that she has the strength to carry on without him. When she finally had all that she could take at the funeral and bent her head and wept, it touched me. My heart goes out to her and I wish her the best.

As for President Reagan, his fight is done. May he rest in peace.

Posted by: peckery 12-Jun-2004, 11:16 AM
[Herrerano Posted on 11-Jun-2004, 12:09 PM
The final hymn of the funeral service in the National Cathedral.]

Download the West Point Glee club singing
"Mansions of the Lord" here.

web.infinito.it/utenti/i/interface/Mansions.mp3

(courtesy of Kassia)

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Posted by: Herrerano 12-Jun-2004, 11:41 AM
Thanks Peckery.

Leo

Posted by: Sea Dog 14-Jun-2004, 02:43 AM
Actually from Sea Dog, Kassia hasn't heard it yet. I don't think she could make it through it yet.

West Point cadets sing hymn for Gibson film
Song will run during credits

By Lee Park
© Poughkeepsie Journal- 14 January 2002

Karl Rabe/ Poughkeepsie Journal
The United States Military Academy Cadet Glee Club warms up with help from director Connie Chase, at piano, in the basement of the Cadet Chapel at West Point before recording a song to be used in the upcoming Mel Gibson film "We Were Soldiers."

Mel Gibson's upcoming Vietnam War film, "We Were Soldiers," has a special meaning to the West Point Cadet Glee Club.

The film, opening March 1, features the cadets singing a hymn during the closing credits. The hymn, also called "We Were Soldiers," is a fitting song to complement the true story of about a group of 400 troops from an elite combat division who become surrounded by 2,000 North Vietnamese soldiers.

"We Were Soldiers" was written, directed and produced by Randall Wallace, who also wrote "Braveheart," directed and produced "The Man In The Iron Mask" and wrote the screenplay for "Pearl Harbor."

The story is based on a book by retired Gen. Harold G. Moore and Joseph Galloway. Gibson stars as Moore, with a supporting cast featuring Madeline Stowe, Sam Elliott, Greg Kinnear and Barry Pepper, who portrays Galloway.

Maj. Augustus Fountain, officer in charge of the glee club, said the West Point superintendent received a phone call from Moore, asking that the cadets sing for a recording for the closing credits. Paramount sent engineers and recording personnel to West Point, where they set up in the Cadet Chapel.

"It's probably the best location for a choral performance at the academy," said Fountain. "The choir area is acoustically designed to boost choral sounds."

The Glee Club was a natural choice for the film, according to Michael Dalling, spokesman for Wallace.

Looking for right feel

"It was more to do with (Wallace) wanting to have the right sort of feel at the end of the film," said Dalling. "Moore was a West Pointer himself and he was very much involved in the film."

The West Point Cadet Glee Club recorded the hymn for the soundtrack last Wednesday. The music was written by Nick Glennie-Smith, who also did the scores for "Home Alone 3," "The Rock" and "The Man In The Iron Mask."

The lyrics to "We Were Soldiers" were penned by Wallace. The words include this verse:

"To fallen heroes let us sing,
where no rockets fly nor bullets wing.
Our broken brothers let us bring,
To the mansions of the lord."

"It's a hymn of dedication to fallen soldiers," said Fountain, noting that the glee club was rehearsing the song for several days.

Posted by: Ceciliastar1 14-Jun-2004, 03:27 PM
We are saying goodbye to a great man.

A father
A husband
A relgious man
A leader
An actor

He will be missed greatly. Farewell to one of the greatest President we have ever had!

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