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Note the disparity between the number of "jobless" and the number

Jobless since January, Donald Money has already moved in with his elderly parents, stopped going to the movies and started using less of his prescription medication so it will last longer.

This month, something else will fall by the wayside, Money's unemployment check. The 43 year old former printing press operator is among the more than 1.3 million Americans whose unemployment insurance benefits will run out by the end of the year placing extra strain on an economy that is just starting to recover from the worst downturn in a generation.

These are the most unfortunate of America's 14.5 million jobless, the ones whose benefits are drying up, in some cases after a record 18 months of government support.

With savings depleted and job opportunities scarce, people are living with relatives and borrowing cash from friends. They are even skipping meals. Through it all they are trying to stay positive through exercise and prayer.

The government said Thursday that 570,000 laid-off workers filed new claims for unemployment benefits last week bringing the number of people receiving benefits to 6.23 million. The Labor Department is expected to report Friday that the August unemployment rate rose to 9.5 percent, up from 9.4 percent in July.

And this administration says we are on the verge of a turn around?!

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One part of the unemployment number is the number of people that have stopped looking. In all reality the unemployment number is somewhere between 1% to 3% higher than what is reported. That would effective put the unemployment number above 10% nationally.

The recent reduction in reported numbers was due to the way the government accounted for these people. They simply reduced their estimation of the number of people and voila! Unemployment is lower than anticipated!


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CREATIVE ACCOUNTING!! If only I could use that method in completing my taxes! Inflation is figured the same way.

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Unfortunately this is a national trend and why many feel we are headed for a police state.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090903/ap_on_...s_shot_in_court

Fire chief shot by cop in Ark. court over tickets
By JON GAMBRELL, Associated Press Writer Thursday September 3, 2009

JERICHO, Ark. - It was just too much, having to return to court twice on the
same day to contest yet another traffic ticket, and Fire Chief Don Payne
didn't hesitate to tell the judge what he thought of the police and their
speed traps.
The response from cops? They shot him. Right there in court.
Payne ended up in the hospital, but his shooting last week brought to a boil
simmering tensions between residents of this tiny former cotton city and
their police force. Drivers quickly learn to slow to a crawl along the
gravel roads and the two-lane highway that run through Jericho, but they say
sometimes that isn't enough to fend off the city ticketing machine.
"You can't even get them to answer a call because normally they're writing
tickets," said Thomas Martin, chief investigator for the Crittenden County
Sheriff's Department. "They're not providing a service to the citizens."
Now the police chief has disbanded his force "until things calm down," a
judge has voided all outstanding police-issued citations and sheriff's
deputies are asking where all the money from the tickets went. With 174
residents, the city can keep seven police officers on its rolls but missed
payments on police and fire department vehicles and saw its last business
close its doors a few weeks ago.
"You can't even buy a loaf of bread, but we've got seven police officers,"
said former resident Larry Harris, who left town because he said the police
harassment became unbearable.
Sheriff's deputies patrolled Jericho until the 1990s, when the city received
grant money to start its own police force, Martin said.
Police often camped out in the department's two cruisers along the highway
that runs through town, waiting for drivers who failed to slow down when
they reached the 45 mph zone ringing Jericho. Residents say the ticketing
got out of hand.
"When I first moved out here, they wrote me a ticket for going 58 mph in my
driveway," 75-year-old retiree Albert Beebe said.
The frequent ticketing apparently led to the vandalization of the cruisers,
and the department took to parking the cars overnight at the sheriff's
department eight miles away.
It was anger over traffic tickets that brought Payne to city hall last week,
said his lawyer, Randy Fishman. After Payne failed to get a traffic ticket
dismissed on Aug. 27, police gave Payne or his son another ticket that day.
Payne, 39, returned to court to vent his anger to Judge Tonya Alexander,
Fishman said.
It's unclear exactly what happened next, but Martin said an argument between
Payne and the seven police officers who attended the hearing apparently
escalated to a scuffle, ending when an officer shot Payne from behind.
Doctors in Memphis, Tenn., removed a .40-caliber bullet from Payne's hip
bone, Martin said. Another officer suffered a grazing wound to his finger
from the bullet.
Martin declined to name the officer who shot Payne. It's unclear if the
officer has been disciplined.
Prosecutor Lindsey Fairley said Thursday that he didn't plan to file any
felony charges against the officer or Payne. Fairley, reached at his home,
said Payne could face a misdemeanor charge stemming from the scuffle, but
that would be up to the city's judge. He said he didn't remember the name of
the officer who fired the shot.
Payne remains in good condition at the Regional Medical Center at Memphis.
He referred questions to his lawyer.
"I know that he was unarmed and I know he was shot," Fishman said. "None of
that sounds too good for the city to me."
After the shooting, Martin said police chief Willie Frazier told the
sheriff's department he was disbanding the police force "until things calm
down." The sheriff's department has been patrolling the town in the
meantime.
A call to a city hall number listed as Frazier's went to a fax machine.
Frazier did not respond to a written request for comment sent to his office.
Alexander, the judge, has voided all the tickets written by the department
both inside the city and others written outside of its jurisdiction -
citations that the department apparently had no power to write. Alexander,
who works as a lawyer in West Memphis, resigned as Jericho's judge in the
aftermath of the shooting, Fairley said. She did not return calls for
comment.
Meanwhile, sheriff's deputies want to know where the money from the traffic
fines went. Martin said that it appeared the $150 tickets weren't enough to
protect the city's finances. Sheriff's deputies once had to repossess one of
the town's police cruisers for failure to pay on a lease, and the state
Forestry Commission recently repossessed one of the city's fire trucks
because of nonpayment.
City hall has been shuttered since the shooting, and any records of how the
money was spent are apparently locked inside. No one answered when a
reporter knocked on the door on Tuesday.
Mayor Helen Adams declined to speak about the shooting when approached
outside her home, saying she had just returned from a doctor's appointment
and couldn't talk.
"We'll get with you after all this comes through," Adams said Tuesday before
shutting the door.
A white Ford Crown Victoria sat in her driveway with "public property"
license plates. A sales brochure advertising police equipment sat in the
back seat of the car.

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QUOTE (Patch @ 04-Sep-2009, 09:39 AM)
Unfortunately this is a national trend and why many feel we are headed for a police state.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090903/ap_on_...s_shot_in_court

Fire chief shot by cop in Ark. court over tickets
By JON GAMBRELL, Associated Press Writer Thursday September 3, 2009

JERICHO, Ark. - It was just too much, having to return to court twice on the
same day to contest yet another traffic ticket, and Fire Chief Don Payne
didn't hesitate to tell the judge what he thought of the police and their
speed traps.
The response from cops? They shot him. Right there in court.
Payne ended up in the hospital, but his shooting last week brought to a boil
simmering tensions between residents of this tiny former cotton city and
their police force. Drivers quickly learn to slow to a crawl along the
gravel roads and the two-lane highway that run through Jericho, but they say
sometimes that isn't enough to fend off the city ticketing machine.
"You can't even get them to answer a call because normally they're writing
tickets," said Thomas Martin, chief investigator for the Crittenden County
Sheriff's Department. "They're not providing a service to the citizens."
Now the police chief has disbanded his force "until things calm down," a
judge has voided all outstanding police-issued citations and sheriff's
deputies are asking where all the money from the tickets went. With 174
residents, the city can keep seven police officers on its rolls but missed
payments on police and fire department vehicles and saw its last business
close its doors a few weeks ago.
"You can't even buy a loaf of bread, but we've got seven police officers,"
said former resident Larry Harris, who left town because he said the police
harassment became unbearable.
Sheriff's deputies patrolled Jericho until the 1990s, when the city received
grant money to start its own police force, Martin said.
Police often camped out in the department's two cruisers along the highway
that runs through town, waiting for drivers who failed to slow down when
they reached the 45 mph zone ringing Jericho. Residents say the ticketing
got out of hand.
"When I first moved out here, they wrote me a ticket for going 58 mph in my
driveway," 75-year-old retiree Albert Beebe said.
The frequent ticketing apparently led to the vandalization of the cruisers,
and the department took to parking the cars overnight at the sheriff's
department eight miles away.
It was anger over traffic tickets that brought Payne to city hall last week,
said his lawyer, Randy Fishman. After Payne failed to get a traffic ticket
dismissed on Aug. 27, police gave Payne or his son another ticket that day.
Payne, 39, returned to court to vent his anger to Judge Tonya Alexander,
Fishman said.
It's unclear exactly what happened next, but Martin said an argument between
Payne and the seven police officers who attended the hearing apparently
escalated to a scuffle, ending when an officer shot Payne from behind.
Doctors in Memphis, Tenn., removed a .40-caliber bullet from Payne's hip
bone, Martin said. Another officer suffered a grazing wound to his finger
from the bullet.
Martin declined to name the officer who shot Payne. It's unclear if the
officer has been disciplined.
Prosecutor Lindsey Fairley said Thursday that he didn't plan to file any
felony charges against the officer or Payne. Fairley, reached at his home,
said Payne could face a misdemeanor charge stemming from the scuffle, but
that would be up to the city's judge. He said he didn't remember the name of
the officer who fired the shot.
Payne remains in good condition at the Regional Medical Center at Memphis.
He referred questions to his lawyer.
"I know that he was unarmed and I know he was shot," Fishman said. "None of
that sounds too good for the city to me."
After the shooting, Martin said police chief Willie Frazier told the
sheriff's department he was disbanding the police force "until things calm
down." The sheriff's department has been patrolling the town in the
meantime.
A call to a city hall number listed as Frazier's went to a fax machine.
Frazier did not respond to a written request for comment sent to his office.
Alexander, the judge, has voided all the tickets written by the department
both inside the city and others written outside of its jurisdiction -
citations that the department apparently had no power to write. Alexander,
who works as a lawyer in West Memphis, resigned as Jericho's judge in the
aftermath of the shooting, Fairley said. She did not return calls for
comment.
Meanwhile, sheriff's deputies want to know where the money from the traffic
fines went. Martin said that it appeared the $150 tickets weren't enough to
protect the city's finances. Sheriff's deputies once had to repossess one of
the town's police cruisers for failure to pay on a lease, and the state
Forestry Commission recently repossessed one of the city's fire trucks
because of nonpayment.
City hall has been shuttered since the shooting, and any records of how the
money was spent are apparently locked inside. No one answered when a
reporter knocked on the door on Tuesday.
Mayor Helen Adams declined to speak about the shooting when approached
outside her home, saying she had just returned from a doctor's appointment
and couldn't talk.
"We'll get with you after all this comes through," Adams said Tuesday before
shutting the door.
A white Ford Crown Victoria sat in her driveway with "public property"
license plates. A sales brochure advertising police equipment sat in the
back seat of the car.

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I'm not sure we can declare this the result of a national trend. After all it is Arkansas (and in or near West Memphis at that). tongue.gif


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I travel extensively in the mid west and see it throughout my travels. I did note that Ak. was the state involved and it is much like La.

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Here is a graph of the unemployment situation:

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The latest numbers, fresh from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:


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The unemployment rate went up to 9.7%, reversing the improvement we saw in July.  To be fair, “unemployment” is somewhat difficult to measure.  For one thing, the way the unemployment rate is calculated doesn’t take into account the people who are no longer looking for work.  (You know, the “discouraged workers” we heard about endlessly during the Bush years.)  So you could see the economy improve but the unemployment rate actually go up, because more people start looking for work.

So, you might ask:  just how many jobs have we got out there?  Why, looky here, the BLS tracks that as well!


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August Unemployment Data

Additional reports indicate that unemployment may reach over 10% by the end of the year.
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Also, in the past the govt. always included a bit over 100K jobs each month saying they were created but off the radar and the seasonal jobs figures were estimates too. In two states I have been in of late there have been no seasonal jobs. Those who have no unemployment benefits, and there are many over the last few years. are not included in any govt report that I have found. The number could easily exceed 10% now.

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