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Posted by: subhuman 31-Aug-2008, 07:48 PM
Let all be warned that there are several dishonorable Lords in our realm.
Both Rindy of UnitedKingdom and TamiMcLeod of Wolfshollow have sent their armies marching upon my borders with neither provocation nor warning.

Anyone dealing with these two parties should be warned that they are both dishonorable and probably cannot be trusted.

To the two ladies (in this case, I use the term very loosely) attacking me: good luck.
I'm sure your large numbers of militia will provide suitable training targets for my swordsmen. Your spearmen will do much the same, since they are only strong against cavalry- of which I have none.
I'm not sure what your siege engines expect to attack since I have no defensive buildings, and they are useless against anything else.

Subhuman of Clan UDB

Posted by: TamiMcLeod 31-Aug-2008, 08:17 PM
Well us ladies will not take threats my mail anymore... you want to talk the big then now walk the big.. more coming.. hang on to your hats men!!!!!

Posted by: subhuman 31-Aug-2008, 08:57 PM
Please, share even *one* threating mail that came from either myself or someone in my clan.
You'll be unable to. Quite simply put, such things do not exist.


Last I checked, threatening mails were specifically against CRN's terms of use. Since you have accused me of behaving in a manner that can result in termination of my account, I request that you either provide proof of this accusation or issue a formal apology.

Posted by: TamiMcLeod 31-Aug-2008, 09:06 PM
I deleted all mine but Macebreaker can verify them for he has saw them and i have read them to him, i will get the others and see they they have any..

I also got a pooh load of them from MacIn as well...


Threatening as in my army as in the game.. not personal, i didnt say you were personal,

but i did post some of them in the clan forum for all to read... and the forum has been deleting them for some reason as well.. ask my clan they wont lie and they will tell you the facts..

Posted by: TamiMcLeod 31-Aug-2008, 09:21 PM
I think i did a pretty good job as well as Rindy did as well




31/08/2008 11:00:41pm
We have attacked the kingdom at 1:3:4. The enemy have garrisoned themselves within a village. The enemy forces were led by "Slappy".

* Our Longbowmen killed 2 enemy Swordsmen.
* Our Archers killed 1 enemy Infantry.
* We lost 4 Infantry to the enemy Archers.
* Our Swordsmen killed 2 enemy Pikemen.
* The enemy Swordsmen annihilated our Pikemen.
* We lost 13 Spearmen to the enemy Swordsmen.
* Our Infantry killed 17 enemy Militia.
* We lost 18 Militia to the enemy Infantry.
* Our Militia killed 5 enemy Archers.
* We lost 1 Slavers to the enemy Militia.
* Our Battering ram destroyed 1 enemy Gold mine.

Our general General I Own You has gained experience (5% attack). Our army has left the enemy kingdom. We have captured 1 workers, 1 Gold miners, 1 Farmers, and 1 Lumberjacks.Our troops have raided 6 Gold from the defenders kingdom.


please remember this is a game the purpose is to attack kingdoms

Posted by: subhuman 31-Aug-2008, 09:23 PM
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I also got a pooh load of them from MacIn as well...

A Clan of which I am not a member.

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but i did post some of them in the clan forum for all to read... and the forum has been deleting them for some reason as well

Well, now it's apparently a big conspiracy. The server has been mysteriously deleting these threating e-mails which you say I sent, and which I say I never sent.

Once again, please provide proof that I have threatened you or made any moves against you.
Any honorable noble would attempt diplomacy before sending in an army. Hence why I state that you are dishonorable.


Congratulations. You lost forces with a replacement cost of 9700 gold, 10500 wood and 17900 food in your ill-advised attack on my Kingdom. On the other hand, it will cost me merely 6000 gold, 9000 food and 6500 wood to replace my lost troops. The four workers you captured had a value of approximately 500 gold.

Posted by: TamiMcLeod 31-Aug-2008, 09:41 PM
If you look back a few days ago, i also posted about the forum posts hitting page 6 and deleting

they were all posted in the clan forum, they are no longer there, ask anyone in my clan the they get deleted alot

Tell me do you have anything to do with this game?


Posted by: jesstuss 31-Aug-2008, 09:44 PM
I had no idea this game could be so dramatic. While you two hash it out, let it be known that my concern with even playing this game comes from the first post... I'm not liking the fact that you can be attacked without provocation. But whatever- I will keep playing it or stop as I see situations like this continue to unfold.

Posted by: Rindy 31-Aug-2008, 09:50 PM
QUOTE (subhuman @ 31-Aug-2008, 07:48 PM)
Let all be warned that there are several dishonorable Lords in our realm.
Both Rindy of UnitedKingdom and TamiMcLeod of Wolfshollow have sent their armies marching upon my borders with neither provocation nor warning.

Anyone dealing with these two parties should be warned that they are both dishonorable and probably cannot be trusted.

To the two ladies (in this case, I use the term very loosely) attacking me: good luck.
I'm sure your large numbers of militia will provide suitable training targets for my swordsmen. Your spearmen will do much the same, since they are only strong against cavalry- of which I have none.
I'm not sure what your siege engines expect to attack since I have no defensive buildings, and they are useless against anything else.

Subhuman of Clan UDB

I am going to say this Tami meant to say MacEoghainn who he attacked me without any warning and I didn't violate the TOS laws by calling him a loose or dishonorable man. As you have referred to Tami and myself subhuman in this post. This was all suppose to be in fun but you know what it isn't fun any more when you start hurting people.

Please folks can we just keep it in fun and not insult each other. As I stated before this is a game of attacking kingdoms and clans are to fight for each other and that is what we are doing in a game.

Slainte




Posted by: Rindy 31-Aug-2008, 10:00 PM
QUOTE (jesstuss @ 31-Aug-2008, 09:44 PM)
I had no idea this game could be so dramatic.  While you two hash it out, let it be known that my concern with even playing this game comes from the first post... I'm not liking the fact that you can be attacked without provocation.  But whatever- I will keep playing it or stop as I see situations like this continue to unfold.

Hi jesstuss, It isn't suppose to come out in the "real life" it's just a game and I am shocked at how some folks are reacting. I am not taking anyones side as stated before.
I'm not sure what the answer is at the moment but we will work it out, and the actual game part is a blast, so I hope this type of posting doesn't detour anyone from playing I know a lot of you are my friends and I would never carry hard feelings beyond the game. Thats just not called for. This game took a lot of work on Celtic Radios time and I hope all of you can follow the rules and make this a success and fun place to be. I've said all I am going to say on the subject.

Slainte

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 31-Aug-2008, 10:04 PM
I was attacked by tallerlacuba of Mipais (1:5:2) from the MacIn clan a few days ago and the only warning i received was in my recent news box, but yet I didn't post on here to whine about not receiving prior notice. It's all part of a game. War sometimes isn't gentlemanly or lady-like, and this game is to be all in fun so why can't everyone just have fun here

Posted by: subhuman 31-Aug-2008, 10:32 PM
Tami-
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Tell me do you have anything to do with this game?

I play it, the same as you.
Seriously, this is getting ridiculous now. Even insinuating that the deletion of the posts in your clan forum is part of a big conspiracy between Mac and myself is going too far.

It's one thing to lie and say that I sent mails (which I didn't), and quite another to throw mud on our host's good name.

You posted the bug report, Mac replied that it should be fixed. It happens. Welcome to Alpha/Beta software.
Everyone-
This game is still in development. No claims were ever made that it would be bug-free. On top of that, it's free. Even if you're paying for a membership at CRN, nowhere in the membership perks are any claims made that the Medieval Kingdom will act differently or better for members.
It's been said that this game is on a 5-year development period. During that entire time, everyone should expect problems, and understand that data will sometimes be lost, and recovery of that data is not always feasible.
This should be understood by anyone who uses any sort of software that is still in development.

Jesstuss-
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I had no idea this game could be so dramatic. While you two hash it out, let it be known that my concern with even playing this game comes from the first post... I'm not liking the fact that you can be attacked without provocation.

Well, of course you can be attacked without provocation or warning, however as I said above, no honorable person would do such a thing.

Rindy-
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I am going to say this Tami meant to say MacEoghainn who he attacked me without any warning and I didn't violate the TOS laws by calling him a loose or dishonorable man. As you have referred to Tami and myself subhuman in this post. This was all suppose to be in fun but you know what it isn't fun any more when you start hurting people.

We're playing as nobles in a medieval kingdom. Someone attacking a peaceful neighbor without warning or provocation would, indeed, be considered to be dishonorable.
Why is the comment about hurting people directed to me when, as you pointed out, it was MacEoghainn who threated and attacked you in the past- not me. I also have to point out that I am no way affiliated with him, nor have I ever been at any time. The one and only correspondence I had with him was a mail I sent inquiring why he had disbanded his clan. That mail has yet to be responded to.
I am not him.
I am not affiliated with him, nor have I ever been.
I am not working with him, nor have I ever been.
I am not even in communication with him- a message sent [/i]with no reply[/i] is not communication.

Please point out where I referred to either of you as loose? I said dishonorable.
If accusations are being made, they should be made accurately.
The only time I used the word loose was stating that I use the term "ladies" loosely when referring to you. Someone who has shown themselves to be acting dishonorably does not, in my opinion (nor in the opinion of the time in which this game is based), deserve to be called a lady. The word "loose" was never directed at a person.


So my understanding of it is as follow, by your definitions:
It's still "fun" when two of you attack me unprovoked and without warning, but when I try to warn others to beware of this sort of behavior from you, it's not "fun" anymore?

(Jesstuss' post seems to reinforce my opinion. Here we see a non-involved party also express dislike of people being attacked without provocation.)

It's "fun" when people make numerous unfounded claims about me?


If either of you can prove that I sent threating mails to you, or that I took any overt or covert actions against you or your clan prior to your attacks on me, I will publicly apologize for calling your gameplay dishonorable.

At this point, now BOTH of you have made claims about me violating the TOS.
I expect proof, or apologies.

Libel: (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/libel)
1.
a. A false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that damages a person's reputation.
b. The act of presenting such material to the public.

The operative word here is "false."
As you've admitted that previous aggression came from someone other than myself, what I have stated is not false. What I have written is not libel.
However, I think it can be shown that what was said about me- is.

Posted by: Harlot 31-Aug-2008, 10:41 PM
QUOTE (subhuman @ 31-Aug-2008, 09:48 PM)
Both Rindy of UnitedKingdom and TamiMcLeod of Wolfshollow have sent their armies marching upon my borders with neither provocation nor warning.


Maybe they should of sent out a invite. i am not being cocky or anything but I've always heard "All is far in love and war" Like every one is say this is just a game no one tell the other preson or counrty we're comin' to get ya. Lets just have fun with this OK thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: Rindy 31-Aug-2008, 10:53 PM
Ok here is the thread I am referring to: I know you through this forum and your a pretty nice guy what I can tell. I have no hard feelings just that we shouldn't call each other names. Lets just really try all of us. may be have some ideas about what we could play for instead of gold and war. Let all of your ideas heard. I will be thinking about it myself. but in the mean time lets have some fun...ok..please..
Your post...

To the two ladies (in this case, I use the term very loosely) attacking me: good luck.
I'm sure your large numbers of militia will provide suitable training targets for my swordsmen. Your spearmen will do much the same, since they are only strong against cavalry- of which I have none.
I'm not sure what your siege engines expect to attack since I have no defensive buildings, and they are useless against anything else

It's late I'm tired and hopefully this fun place will be here tomrrow.

Slainte to all of the players...

Posted by: subhuman 31-Aug-2008, 11:32 PM
Rindy-
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It's late I'm tired and hopefully this fun place will be here tomrrow.

/agree


Ok, I think we can agree that this has been blown out of proportion. smile.gif

Please re-read my first post, keeping a few things in mind as you do:
1) I was confused with someone else. To date, I made made no aggressive moves against anyone.
2) I purposely used your full names as they appear in-game, not as they appear in the rest of the CRN forums. Maybe this wasn't very clear, but my first post was just warning people that in-game behavior may not be fully honorable. That post was my first (and seeing how it backfired, probably last) attempt to post "in character."
Maybe I'm wrong here, but I thought it woul dbe a perfectly reasonable response from a person of the time period in which the game is set.

I do not and did not mean to give anyone the impression that I think Rindy, the person who posts at CRN, is acting dishonorably anywhere except in the game.
I'll withhold judgement on TamiMcLeod. Rindy has explained that there was confusion between myself and someone. Tami has not replied yet. If claims continue that I sent her threating mails, I will go further and state I believe her to be a liar.

Harlot-
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Maybe they should of sent out a invite. i am not being cocky or anything but I've always heard "All is far in love and war" Like every one is say this is just a game no one tell the other preson or counrty we're comin' to get ya. Lets just have fun with this OK

Attacking without warning doesn't break any game rules, so in that sense- there were no rules broken.
However.. coordinated attacks on a non-aggressive neighbor still are not honorable.
War is generally preceded by diplomacy. "Do this, or we attack." That sort of thing. smile.gif




honor: ( http://www.thefreedictionary.com/honor )
"b. A code of integrity, dignity, and pride, chiefly among men, that was maintained in some societies, as in feudal Europe, by force of arms."

Posted by: CelticRadio 01-Sep-2008, 05:38 AM
Ok, I just wanted to weigh in on this thread.

There have been some questions about a few bugs in the game, such as the forum threads being deleted. Understand that those will be looked at but it is going to be a while as we are developing a homepage for Medieval Kingdom and I think that is more important to get all of the parts working. The auction is a center piece of this game and I've got some great prizes to auction off that are of a medieval theme.

So while I would love to fix those bugs righ away, I think a certain amount of time needs to pass so we can identify everything that needs a tweak.

Some of the news items you receive are deleted once you receive them. We don't want to overload the database with needless saved messages. Such as news, once read, it disappears. Our homepage for this will store all news items we send out.

And finally, I am going to create a disclaimer for this game. It is impossible for me, our moderating team and the super admins to sort peoples issues out here. So this game is going to be an unmoderated game. Part of the fun of a game is role playing, and taking on a character, whether good or evil, to create your persona.

We are not going to be getting involved in peoples business here, so be warned that if you wish to play this game then you are going to have put up with a bit of noise from unhappy players or people that don't think things are fair.

Perhaps in a way this will mirror what the real medieval world was - ruled by itself and the people, kingdoms and rulers that got things done. No matter how unfair it was.

Posted by: ranger 01-Sep-2008, 07:53 AM
WOW!!! All of those posts just raised all of your post rating percentages, didn't it? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Lady-of-Avalon 01-Sep-2008, 08:18 AM
QUOTE (CelticRadio @ 01-Sep-2008, 07:38 AM)
Ok, I just wanted to weigh in on this thread.

And finally, I am going to create a disclaimer for this game. It is impossible for me, our moderating team and the super admins to sort peoples issues out here. So this game is going to be an unmoderated game. Part of the fun of a game is role playing, and taking on a character, whether good or evil, to create your persona.

We are not going to be getting involved in peoples business here, so be warned that if you wish to play this game then you are going to have put up with a bit of noise from unhappy players or people that don't think things are fair.

Perhaps in a way this will mirror what the real medieval world was - ruled by itself and the people, kingdoms and rulers that got things done. No matter how unfair it was.

Hi Paul,

I cannot agree more. For if some people take it at heart when it's only a game meant for fun...well that's their problems.

However if I may,I would like to invite people to practice diplomacy and act in a civilized manner in not using the "private message" as a medium to send personal attacks on another member. Even though the game will not be moderated it doesn't mean that it should become a place for insulting other members.

Just a friendly reminder and my two pence.

LOA smile.gif


Posted by: subhuman 01-Sep-2008, 03:58 PM
QUOTE
WOW!!! All of those posts just raised all of your post rating percentages, didn't it?

Unfortunately, I have yet to figure out a way to raise it above 100%- which is where my rating has always been since the system was implemented. smile.gif


Posted by: TheCarolinaScotsman 05-Sep-2008, 03:42 PM
Perhaps some folk who are unhappy with the actions of others will want to get together and develop a "Code of Chivalry" that contains formal ways of handling communications and attacks, other disputes and diplomacy. If that were done, I think everyone should have a chance to contribute their ideas and feelings on what is appropriate. Maybe someone wants to study up on the original codes of chivalry that were common in the medieval period in order to have some sort of guide. (not me, I'll go with what most folks want, I just have ideas) I'm fairly certain that the original codes had no mention of flaming e-mails. smile.gif

Posted by: CelticRadio 05-Sep-2008, 04:57 PM
QUOTE (TheCarolinaScotsman @ 05-Sep-2008, 05:42 PM)
Perhaps some folk who are unhappy with the actions of others will want to get together and develop a "Code of Chivalry" that contains formal ways of handling communications and attacks, other disputes and diplomacy. If that were done, I think everyone should have a chance to contribute their ideas and feelings on what is appropriate. Maybe someone wants to study up on the original codes of chivalry that were common in the medieval period in order to have some sort of guide. (not me, I'll go with what most folks want, I just have ideas) I'm fairly certain that the original codes had no mention of flaming e-mails. smile.gif

Wow, we have a number of books on the Code of Chivalry that we will be using for donations and for our auction. It is an awesome book.

Posted by: Rindy 05-Sep-2008, 07:24 PM
That's a great idea TheCarolinaScotsman. thumbs_up.gif

Slainte

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 05-Sep-2008, 08:05 PM
I feel so dishonored, being attacked by 2 kingdoms with no prior email notification!!!!

shame shame *rolls eyes*

and here I thought you were honorable players. I guess they should delete this whole topic here as it seems you like to be the black kettle and the black pot haha


Posted by: subhuman 05-Sep-2008, 08:12 PM
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I feel so dishonored, being attacked by 2 kingdoms with no prior email notification!!!!

Surely you are not referring to me attacking, as can be read in my first post in this thread:

http://www.celticradio.net/php/forums/index.php?showtopic=12273

you were warned.

Unlike some, I did attempt diplomacy before violence.

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 05-Sep-2008, 08:33 PM
You surely did not read the rest of my post or you just do not understand sarcasm from whatever unearthly realm you claim to come from thumbs_up.gif

Although you were not the only one I was referring to you can now be included. Yours and Stevenpd's attacks soon come upon my doorstep and still I can find a reason to smile hmmmm seems i don't take this game as seriously as some. ORRRRRRRRR I believe in the old cliches Eye for an Eye and All is fair in love and war. I have the love in my real life and welcome war in this "life" if that's what it's called.. apparently this is all some of you have, you intertwine it into your own life like it is going to affect the way your going to live tomorrow.

I welcome both of your armies to attack me, I would rather play this game and have people attacking me and vice versa than to sit here and buy a gold miner and lumberjack all day. that's what this game is about and I"m excited to actually have something to do on here. Maybe some of you should step back and realize also that this is just a game and enjoy it while you can. Win or lose against either of your armies i have no wounds on my body my mind still intact and the love of my fiancee waiting on me. I"m not sure if you are physically wounded when you are attacked or just emotionally scarred one. Enjoy the battle mates CHEERS!



Oh and sub just for your info when i attacked someone earlier, I gave warning to all that there would be an attack to someone above me in the rankings, I then posted on that same forum to let it be known as to who was being attacked, and then the game itself sent a warning as well.... so I hope your claims of dishonorable do not fall upon my ears when you refer to me

Posted by: CelticRadio 05-Sep-2008, 08:45 PM
There is no rule that you have to warn someone of an attack in this forum or email. Attacks can happen at any time!

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 05-Sep-2008, 08:53 PM
Never said there was Celtic, I was simply making a statement as to about the others whining at the beginning of the game not receiving warnings via email when they were attacked. My post was an attempt at pokign fun at that. I could care less if i was warned or not. I couldn't help but smile when I seen a kingdom from Vineland approaches and should be at your kingdom within 4 months. and then when i seen that yet another army was coming towards me at the same time, I think the corners of my mouth touched my ear, because all the complaining about what was going on in this thread and like 1 or 2 others was basically just to help people's post ratings because no one is adhereing to what they complained about in the first place. I was nice enough to post in the forum who i was attacking before i ever did, but I don't really want to know until I see in blue letters You have 1 piece(s) of unseen news and i see i'm being marched upon. This is a game and i'm having a blast at this in everyway, I just wish others could do the same and not take it so personal ya know?

Posted by: Leelee 05-Sep-2008, 08:58 PM
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I just wish others could do the same and not take it so personal ya know?


Aye, I agree....as Ombudsman of the Wolf Clan....I decree this is just a game (FGS), let's hae some fun, Aye!!!!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: subhuman 05-Sep-2008, 10:01 PM
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You surely did not read the rest of my post or you just do not understand sarcasm from whatever unearthly realm you claim to come from thumbs_up.gif

I never claimed to come from any unearthly realm. If you're going to make claims about me, please be accurate.
You're writing in plain text, which is not always easy to convey sarcasm with. In this case, it looks to have failed.

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ORRRRRRRRR I believe in the old cliches Eye for an Eye

...Which is what triggered this attack from me.

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I"m not sure if you are physically wounded when you are attacked or just emotionally scarred one.

That's akin to a loaded question like "have you stopped beating your fiance yet?" Neither answer is "safe." Either you used to beat her and stopped, or you still beat her.
Similarly, you've placed me into one of two categories, neither of which are correct.

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Oh and sub just for your info when i attacked someone earlier, I gave warning to all that there would be an attack to someone above me in the rankings, I then posted on that same forum to let it be known as to who was being attacked, and then the game itself sent a warning as well.... so I hope your claims of dishonorable do not fall upon my ears when you refer to me

Did you read the first post in this thread? Two names were mentioned, neither of which were yours.

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Never said there was Celtic, I was simply making a statement as to about the others whining at the beginning of the game not receiving warnings via email

a) it wasn't whining, it was a warning to others to beware of such behavior. It appears that the warning was justified, as earlier Skeleman experienced the same.
cool.gif I never said it had to come via e-mail. I never specified any one particular method for that matter. Again, if you're going to make claims about me, please be accurate.

Here's a scenario for you:
If France were to invade Spain tonight, what do you expect would happen? I'll bet you anything that there would be a whole load of press conferences over the incident. I'll bet that Spain would also warn other countries to beware of such behavior from France.
How is this different from what I did?

Is this, or is this not supposed to be a role-playing game? I seem to recall it having been promoted as one. The leader of any sovereign nation would respond much along the lines of how I did.

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I would rather play this game and have people attacking me and vice versa than to sit here and buy a gold miner and lumberjack all day. that's what this game is about

Where do you get that information that this game is about that? I believe it was promoted as a way to accumulate gold to use in RL auctions and account upgrades.
War runs counterproductive to that goal. In every battle that I've seen results of so far, both attacker and defender have lost much more gold than they have gained by battle. In fact, the most gold I've seen captured from an enemy is a whopping 6 gold pieces. That's not worth losing even the least-expensive of units over.
Every time you attack someone, pull a random amount of currency out of your wallet and burn it. In effect, that's exactly what you're doing. Every attack sent out decreases the attacker's real-life buying power.

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 05-Sep-2008, 10:18 PM
geez you really just don't know when to shut up and play the game do ya?

i'll tell you what next time you see a haha or a hehe or a lol in text that usually means someone is having a good time or laughing or even oh my gosh having fun!

and i've told you that I gladly await your attack. victorious or not I shall enjoy playing "the game"

and as to my fiancee you can leave her out of this because i bring no one but YOU into this assface. I will make my claims against you not anyone else in your family. I simply said I did not understand if you could actually take this game as it is. A GAME! you seem to take every battle thrown at you as a personal attack to your character and not the character you play in this game but your life character

also i didn't say you called me out in the first post of the thread I was telling you that when i attacked someone I let them know that they were being attacked so that you would not see me as you claim a dishonorable person. I guess maybe I should have put it in future tense for ya


some people are here to play the game not score free swag from the website. so maybe playing the game to some people are worth more than actually winnning a cd that you wanted but were too cheap to buy

I'm done talking to you you are a pompous ass who I wish to ever have any further contact with and will not respond to you. Best of luck in "the game" my friend I will not take personal shots at your family but will eventually take shots at your kingdom

Posted by: subhuman 05-Sep-2008, 10:47 PM
Dude, calm down and re-read my example of a loaded question. That's all it was- an example.
I'll quote directly from this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
"Loaded questions: contain an incriminating assumption that the questioned person seems to admit to if she answers the question instead of challenging it. For example, "Are you still beating your wife?""

That's a very common example of a loaded question. Or replace "wife" with "dog" if you prefer.
"Are you still beating your dog?"


The main difference here is you placed me into one of two categories- neither of which I fit into. What I said exactly to you was:
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That's akin to a loaded question like "have you stopped beating your fiance yet?" Neither answer is "safe."


I did not attribute that to you (or her) directly, it was used as an EXAMPLE. I did not even ask you that question.

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i'll tell you what next time you see a haha or a hehe or a lol in text that usually means someone is having a good time or laughing or even oh my gosh having fun!

Then next time, try using a "hehe" or even a "lol" when you write it.
I can't read something you didn't write.
" I feel so dishonored, being attacked by 2 kingdoms with no prior email notification!!!!

shame shame *rolls eyes*"



QUOTE
and as to my fiancee you can leave her out of this because i bring no one but YOU into this assface. I will make my claims against you not anyone else in your family. I simply said I did not understand if you could actually take this game as it is. A GAME! you seem to take every battle thrown at you as a personal attack to your character and not the character you play in this game but your life character

Where do you get this from?
I posted a warning that two members of Wolf Clan were acting dishonorably and probably couldn't be trusted. Period. Various members of Wolf Clan keep escalating this.
Both jesstuss and Skeleman have since agreed that they feel that this is dishonorable play. I am not alone in this.
Yet, somehow I keep being the target of repeated personal attacks in the forum.

Did I accuse both TamiMcLeod and macebreaker of being liars? Yep, sure did. I'm not free to go into details, but oh yeah- that was 100% justified. Judging from the PM I got from Mac earlier, you're not going to see them at this site anymore- and not because of anything to do with this game.
If you thought they were trustworthy and your friends- trust me, they weren't.

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 05-Sep-2008, 10:55 PM
here's my one reply to you

the difference between what i said about you lied solely on YOU what you said about me had something to do with something other than myself

and if you would have finished reading my post about the not notifying me of an attack you would have seen a HAHA


best of luck in the game

Please do not bother quoting anything i say to you on here for i wish no further to talk to you about anything at all on any of these forums ok? just enjoy the game as I tend to do also cause i really do not feel like going on and on with you like we're on a f'n merry-go-round

Posted by: subhuman 05-Sep-2008, 11:16 PM
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what you said about me had something to do with something other than myself

Dude, READ IT AGAIN.
I didn't say it about you!!
Is your reading comprehension this poor?

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 05-Sep-2008, 11:25 PM
You said do you still beat your fiancee clearly stating FIANCEE as another person other than myself

i didn't say anythign other than you or your name. I didn't say do you and your family live in an unearthly realm or anything of that matter. and your constant reposts of certain "quotes" trying to get people to understand what your talking about is admirable but I for one now it is meant to be as a smart ass.

My comprehension is just fine thank you apparently yours is not when i said please do not reply to this as i do not wish to go round and round on this thing with you. I have wished you best of luck in the game but wish to not have you reply to anything I type here anymore. this is beating a dead horse sub geez just play the damn game for the love of GOD would you just finally decide that you and I are getting nowhere in this and would be just better into finishing this game without the need of this thread going to 10 or 12 pages? This is the last time I"m saying this so you will understand, and I sincerely mean it this time,
I am not replying to anythign you wish to say to me in this forum in a personal email or anything. I will see you in the kingdoms and on the battlefields and that is all that needs to be done. Good day to you Sub and again if i even need to say it again because i've said it to you more than anyone else in my clan or even my good friend who is on here, best of luck in the game thumbs_up.gif

Posted by: subhuman 05-Sep-2008, 11:39 PM
No, I said:
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That's akin to a loaded question like "have you stopped beating your fiance yet?" Neither answer is "safe."

See the word "like" in there?
That means it's an example.
Do you take personal offense at finding an almost identical example of a loaded question at wikipedia.org?

Let me make this really, really clear to you: the below is also an example:
Had I said merely "have you stopped beating your fiance yet?" THEN I would have directed the question at you... then I would have made it personal.
example end
However- I am not now, nor have I ever asked you that question.

Dude, the personal attacks started when you referred to me as "assface." If someone called you that, would you drop it?
To date, I have made no personal attacks on you or your family- nor do I plan on starting.

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 05-Sep-2008, 11:44 PM
dead horse

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 05-Sep-2008, 11:51 PM
Sub I don't see how you have not seen by now i am just messing with you to ruffle your feathers. If you look in any of my old posts I said i love to go back and forth on forums such as this and that I welcome a good go around.
I keep saying to you to stop and you do not so therefore I continue to go on and on.
I see that i was able to ruffle your feathers because you refuse my requests to not reply haha so I say good battle unto you my friend. i did not think you would continue with me for this long.

My understanding of english and the language and anything associated with it is not as small as you may think at all this, I myself was majoring in English and American Literature in college so i'm not as dumb as you seem to think.

this is a game and if i could find the post in the actual game clan forums I'd show it to where I said i was an instigator and I've proven that with almost 3 pages of uselessness with you.

Again Good luck in the game my friend you and stevenpd had me worried earlier with the double attack

also i'm not sure by what you meant about tami and mace as i have heard nothing

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 05-Sep-2008, 11:56 PM
and i retract the assface comment as it was inappropriate

Posted by: subhuman 06-Sep-2008, 12:34 AM
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and i retract the assface comment as it was inappropriate

It happens. Things are often said in the heat of the moment that are later regretted.
Retraction accepted. smile.gif
Please also accept that I never meant anything personal about the "loaded question" I used as an example.

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i did not think you would continue with me for this long.

I will argue anything to death as long as I think I'm right.
The key word in that is "think." tongue.gif
Prove me wrong, and I'll accept a differing opinion. smile.gif

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My understanding of english and the language and anything associated with it is not as small as you may think at all this, I myself was majoring in English and American Literature in college so i'm not as dumb as you seem to think.

I never thought you were dumb. I *did* wonder WTF was going on however. Too often people skim things, not reading every word (self included) and I was wondering if that's what had happened here.
I also notice you refer to your majors in past tense- so maybe it's also possible you couldn't cut it in there. tongue.gif
Anyway, let's move on with the game. smile.gif
-Bob

Posted by: Shenaniganz247 06-Sep-2008, 12:43 AM
Continue on my worthy opponent king.gif

Posted by: Skeleman 06-Sep-2008, 07:34 AM
It seems my posts about the attacks made on my kingdom were taken far to seriously. Please correct me on this if I'm wrong but I remember it being said that the Medieval Kingdom Forum is an extension of the game. That's what I was doing, bringing the game to the forum. I was playing the part of "Lord Skeleman" who's kingdom had been unjustly attacked. I thought this was understood but apparently not. I apologize in advance if the forum is not intended as an extension of the game and I just imagined it was said.

Posted by: Sekhmet 06-Sep-2008, 11:03 PM
Perhaps an easier way to indicate whether or not someone is speaking "in character" as opposed to just chatting out of character is to preface either a new thread or your post on an active thread with either IC (in character) or OOC (out of character). This may help with misunderstandings with posts.

Just a little gamer tip from me to you... biggrin.gif


Posted by: Shenaniganz247 07-Sep-2008, 12:25 AM
Sounds like a great idea Sekhmet

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