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Posted: 01-May-2016, 10:29 AM
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I know over the last 3-4 years, e-cigarette/vape stores have popped up everywhere. I'm curious if anyone here, like me, struggles with nicotine addiction? I started using these back in 2008 and had limited success. The equipment was rather lousy and it took plenty of trial and error, and about 5 years worth of getting new stuff and trying new things, before I finally found what satisfied my cravings. So now I've been smoke free for nearly three years and cannot even express how much better I feel. How about you? Have you used them and if so, what worked for you?


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Posted: 01-May-2016, 12:12 PM
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Shadows, I did too. In 1985. Smoked half of one cigarette from a brand new package, didn't want to smoke anymore, crushed the pack in my hand, tossed it in the garbage and never looked back. I truly believe the only way to quit is to quit. Period. E-cigs are still a crutch and still delivering nicotine. The only thing they don't do is stink like a cigarette however, the medical community is starting to see severe problems in patients where they had little to no information in the past. So in my mind, and this is just me, one is trading one problem for another by relying on the e-cigs.


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QUOTE (WallaceGal @ 01-May-2016, 03:19 PM)
the medical community is starting to see severe problems in patients where they had little to no information in the past.

I'm curious what the medical community is starting to see. I ask because I've been rather "into" vaping for some time now. In the process I've met and spoken with many, many people who all say the same thing - that e-cigs helped them quit smoking, and their health has improved.

That's not to say I think vaping has some type of health benefit. Those who tout the value of vaping cite "harm reduction" as a main key to their argument, and on that I agree. It's definitely harm reduction. But honestly I have yet to see or experience any negative health effects. Quite the contrary. I have regained some of what I thought was forever lost lung capacity. I can do far more physical activity than prior to switching. And for me this is huge because I smoked for well over 30 years.
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http://www.youthhealthmag.com/articles/329...lung-vaping.htm

Just one of the known (and it's been a known problem with some specific chemicals for years) problems that arise however, the medical community will admit that though the long term adverse effects are not completely known at this time because the e-cigs have not been around long enough, they are still full of chemicals so I guess my question to you is, chemicals? Or air? Because unless you live in Beijing, there are very few other places that have air quality worse than e-cigs or cigarettes themselves. And if you're relying on e-cigs or 'vaping' (which I find a ridiculous term since you're still smoking something) you're still relying on a crutch. Which means you haven't quit. You've just substituted with something that doesn't smell quite as offensive to others.But you're still ruining the inside of your lungs.

This might give you better information as well.

http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-f...ung-health.html

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Oh sorry, I thought there were medical cases you would share. I know there have been some Darwin Award candidates who've nearly blown limbs off with batteries but I've never heard of a person with a confirmed medical issue linked to e-cigarettes. It will probably be years before anything like that comes to light. Because if e-cigs do present a significant health risk, it's only obvious to me that it would be long-term use that caused a problem.

As for the American Lung Association page, I visited that back in November of last year. It was November 3. I know that because that's when I sent them an email asking them to explain some of their 5 Myths and Facts About E-cigarettes. I never got a reply, probably because it's a lot of propaganda.
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Anything inhaled into your lungs but air is going to have adverse effects in the long run.
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QUOTE (Shadows @ 03-May-2016, 05:11 PM)
Anything inhaled into your lungs but air is going to have adverse effects in the long run.

I'm sure you're right. At the same time there are countless people just like myself who wanted to quit the cigarettes, who tried many things from weaning, to cold turkey, to nicotine replacement therapy, and only had success when finally discovering e-cigarettes. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be much activity here anymore so I seem to be the only one able share that fact.

Maybe someone will pop in eventually who agrees with this option when all else has failed. I will say though that for people who have been able to just set them down and successfully quit, I think it's difficult for them to understand others like myself who are not so equipped. I've thrown hundreds of dollars worth of cigarettes away, thinking that's it, I'm done! only to find myself to weak-minded to not go buy more.
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I have been Vaping for several years after smoking for over 30 years. The stores I use are in the Charlotte, NC area, "Mad Vapes". The people there are super knowledgeable about the products they sell and take a personal interest in the levels their customers are using and are not afraid to discuss the concerns. I was talking with one of the employees a couple of months ago and we were discussing the different types of liquids sold and they did express concern about some of the liquids that are sold (ie the THC) and the unknown effects of these liquids. Mad Vapes mixes their own liquids using strictly set amounts of nicotine that are not dangerous levels. I have had no problem with any of their products. In fact I use mine to help control the levels of pain I deal with on a daily basis. From what I learned at the store I am not alone in benefiting from some control of pain. I also learned from a nurse that she has had to teach her husband how to use the e-cig because the V.A. had prescribed THC to him for pain. I do not suggest you or anyone buy supplies at flea markets or stores of questionable reputation, because their liquids may be from another country that doesn't have the ethical standards we as Americans have become accustomed to in order to prevent injury to others and ourselves. All I can say is to be selective in the store you pick and get to know the employees on a level where you can trust them to know their products and what would be the best fit for you.

This post has been edited by christmaschild1 on 01-Jun-2016, 04:06 PM


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