Gun Control, who's for it?

I STILL feel safer with the bears than the refuse that walks on two legs ALL the time!

You are right. There is a considerable amount two legged trash out there that is more dangerous than any bear! They are harder to sort out too.

Slàinte,    

Patch    

Not all skunks are named Pepe La Pugh!

Flora

As we "mature" ( I like that word) your observation becomes all too apparent.

Slàinte,    

Patch    

A Calif court rejected a lawsuit against gun maker Glock Inc. and a Seattle gun dealer stemming from a white supremacist's 1999 shooting rampage at a Los Angeles-area Jewish center and the murder of a postal carrier. All of the firearms in his posession were illegal though some were approved by BATF.

A 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals panel ruled that the2005 federal law shielding gun makers from lawsuits re: the criminal use of their products was constitutional.

The court rejected a lawsuit against gun maker Glock and a Seattle gun dealer stemming from a 1999 shooting at an LA area Jewish center.

There have been a number of decisions recently in favor of second ammendment rights.

Slàinte,    

Patch    

QUOTE (flora @ 12-May-2009, 10:24 PM)
Not all skunks are named Pepe La Pugh!

Flora


As we "mature" ( I like that word) your observation becomes all too apparent.

The state of Texas just passed a law (by a substantial majority) allowing students, workers and educators to carry concealed firearms on college/university grounds and buildings. I have yet to read the bill but will do so ASAP. Several other states are considering the same.

The state of Texas just passed a law (by a substantial majority) allowing students, workers and educators to carry concealed firearms on college/university grounds and buildings. I have yet to read the bill but will do so ASAP. Several other states are considering the same. I do not know if teachers and adult employees in grade and high school were included.

Slàinte,    

Patch    

It is my understanding now (though not definite) that elementary and high school teachers and administrators will be allowed to carry firearms on school property also.

Slàinte,    

Patch    

Sounds like a plan -- they can cull each other for a while before they secede for good.

The PLAN is those who have license to carry will stop the nut cases who come illegally with a grudge. The FACT that some will be legally armed should be a deterrent. Believe it or not, educators asked for this law!

Slàinte,    

Patch    

What's your point? I'm an educator so I should understand and agree with it? I don't think so -- it's a desperate solution at best. You seem to have some idea in your mind that a young person who carries a gun legally in an academic setting -- or a teacher, for that matter -- is all of a sudden promoted to some higher sense of responsibility and purpose, a permanent member of the good guys, and will never be the cause of the trouble, only the remedy "if, God forbid . . . ". This way, you either do a metal check every day on everybody and tally who's got the guns legally every time -- and they will get sick of it and get sloppy -- or you have an inherent risk at all times, not less because you're aware of it. How about routine checks for what's going on in the life of someone who is authorized to carry in the school? You want to keep track of armed adolescents under the pressures of school, relationships, job, etc.? They will know who the deterrant carriers are, and they will get creative and avoid them if they want to raise hell, until the damage is done. With any luck all you'll see is a rise of suicides in the bathrooms that don't involve anyone else.

This is strictly regional. State's law, state's call. Cull and secede at will.

I am for it and hope the other six states pass it. You with your apparent distrust of your fellow man probably need a firearm worse than many people. I respect your choice not to have one if you wish but the rest of us have rights too!

If crime gets bad enough, I would not be shocked if NY passed a law allowing ALL law abiding people there to carry. There are more licensed to carry firearms (besides the police) in New York than in my state. The difference is politics is involved in obtaining a permit in your state.

Slàinte,    

Patch    

That's an interesting observation. If I'm as paranoid as you think I am, why the hell would you let me walk around armed?

I believe we were talking about the college setting, weren't we? I don't know exactly what Texas kids are like when you put a bunch of them in a university and grind them with the usual pressures. I doubt they are all that different. But I know our kids here down to the bone, and I know why assuming that good is good and bad is bad, and the difference should be obvious to anyone, is a sad and dangerous self-deception that isn't any more genuine a trust than you think I have (or don't have). But I suppose it beats having to admit how scarily random the whole thing is, and maybe even having to recognize how little your right to be armed makes your environment any more secure.