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Posted by: CelticCoalition 20-Jun-2006, 11:14 AM
For the 2008 presidential election I would like to see former Mayor Giuliani go against Hillary Clinton.

Depending on their campaign platforms, I'd probably vote for Giuliani too.

Posted by: ShadowDarkFyre 20-Jun-2006, 11:34 AM
I'd like to see the govenor of Virginia run for the Office.



Posted by: MDF3530 20-Jun-2006, 02:28 PM
I know it's a tradition for the Vice President of the outgoing administration to seek his party's nomination for the presidency, but I doubt Cheney will do it. Two reasons:

1. I don't think his ticker could take it.
2. Edgar Bergen never switched places with Charlie McCarthy.

My prediction for the '08 presidential race:

Democrat: Hillary
Republican: Jeb

I'll vote for Hillary, but I'll do it how l like to think most sane, reasonable Republicans voted for Dubya in '04: holding their noses while doing it. Jeb probably sees the Oval Office as his birthright.

Posted by: SCShamrock 20-Jun-2006, 03:08 PM
Oh no, CC you really want to bring out the dark side of me don't you? cool.gif tongue.gif

I think Jeb/Hillary is a good prediction, although Hillary keeps insisting she will not run. I think she will. Condoleezza says she won't run either, and I have a stronger inclination to believe what she says, so I don't think she will run. If GW is any indication of Jeb's philosophy, and he runs against Hillary, the vote will be for a liberal anyway, so I'll stick with Jeb in the hopes that my beloved America might be represented closest to the way I see it (tongue way, deeply buried in cheek). However, Hillary does seem to see the wisdom in seeing the fight against terrorism to some sort of final conclusion....and that to her own expense in her party. However, I think to myself "she's a Clinton, how better to garner those fledgling or weary republican voters than to make yourself their ally."

To me, our country is more than ready for a female president, and there is no other woman I would more like to see there than Condoleezza. Honestly, I don't think it matters who would run against her either, I feel she would be a shoo in. I think she has poise, class, confidence, leadership ability, a tough chin, is unquestionably intelligent....she has it all. I think her skin color may work against her because I've heard her called the "whitest woman in Washington", but at the same time it would help the image of our nation having a black person in the top job. So I guess I'm saying Condoleezza v. Hillary, or Dean, or Ms. Pacman, Howdy-Doody, Jim Carrey, or anyone else on the planet....I vote for Rice.

Posted by: Dogshirt 20-Jun-2006, 05:31 PM
There is only one MAN worthy of the job, John McCain. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she was the ONLY person on the ballot, and I think the country has had enough Bushs to last for a LOOOOOOOOONG time to come!


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Posted by: Swanny 20-Jun-2006, 06:57 PM
Dr. Condoleeza Rice is the only one I can think of in either major party who is worth a tinker's dam,. If she runs she'll most likely get my vote. If she doesn't I'll vote for whatever libertarian runs and wish both major parties a happy hotdog roast in the deepest depths of hell.

If we keep voting the same way we've always voted we're gonna keep getting the same old B.S. we've always gotten.

Do I think I might be a bit disgusted with the endless escalating petty partisan bickering that passes for "government"?

Yep.

Swanny

Posted by: Nova Scotian 20-Jun-2006, 07:16 PM
QUOTE (MDF3530 @ 20-Jun-2006, 03:28 PM)
I know it's a tradition for the Vice President of the outgoing administration to seek his party's nomination for the presidency, but I doubt Cheney will do it. Two reasons:

1. I don't think his ticker could take it.
2. Edgar Bergen never switched places with Charlie McCarthy.

My prediction for the '08 presidential race:

Democrat: Hillary
Republican: Jeb

I'll vote for Hillary, but I'll do it how l like to think most sane, reasonable Republicans voted for Dubya in '04: holding their noses while doing it. Jeb probably sees the Oval Office as his birthright.

I don't think Jeb will do it because he's a Bush. However I think he'd be better then "W". He was nominated as being one of the best Governors in the Country and I have to agree. I've lived in Florida for 16 years and had Chiles for the first 8 and he was ok but I think Jeb has done an outstanding job as Gov.

Posted by: Nova Scotian 20-Jun-2006, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (Dogshirt @ 20-Jun-2006, 06:31 PM)
There is only one MAN worthy of the job, John McCain. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she was the ONLY person on the ballot, and I think the country has had enough Bushs to last for a LOOOOOOOOONG time to come!


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Between Hilary and McCain, I choose McCain but I have a lot of problem with his stance on Gun rights. He's no friend of the NRA. Gun rights are a VERY important to me.

Posted by: ShadowDarkFyre 21-Jun-2006, 07:11 AM
QUOTE (Dogshirt @ 21-Jun-2006, 12:31 AM)
There is only one MAN worthy of the job, John McCain. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she was the ONLY person on the ballot, and I think the country has had enough Bushs to last for a LOOOOOOOOONG time to come!


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I wholeheartedly agree.



Posted by: stoirmeil 21-Jun-2006, 10:35 AM
I don't think it's the right time for Hillary. She's doing a good job for us here in New York, and she needs to keep developing on that level for another term. Then maybe yes, IF she does develop that way. It's not clear to me she really has it.

There is McCain. He does not grab me personally, but he survived knowing when a change was in order and having the guts to make it, instead of fossilizing into partisan loyalty.

Jeb Bush is a moron. The GOP has to put up something better than that. Giuliani would be better, certainly he is smarter and more sophisticated, but I'm not fond of him (again, on a longstanding, pre-2001 New Yorker's basis). Condie Rice might do it, she is smart and has class, but I don't know how independent minded she is under fire -- she's been too much of a yes-person in this administration and I'm afraid I don't trust her to be the top banana with no one else above her (except a congress full of chalk-stripe suits).

Posted by: Celtic cat 21-Jun-2006, 11:26 AM
On a lighter note.....I think Oprah should run. Probably a hundred reasons why not but she seems so much more honest, not to mention good willed.

Posted by: ShadowDarkFyre 21-Jun-2006, 02:12 PM
Why would she want to. Lot less headaches doing what she's doing now...



Posted by: TheCarolinaScotsman 21-Jun-2006, 05:03 PM
Frankly, I've become extremely disillusioned with nearly everyone. The last person I saw in public office that I think has the courage and integrity for the job won't run-- Colin Powell.

Posted by: Senara 21-Jun-2006, 05:08 PM
QUOTE (TheCarolinaScotsman @ 21-Jun-2006, 06:03 PM)
Frankly, I've become extremely disillusioned with nearly everyone. The last person I saw in public office that I think has the courage and integrity for the job won't run-- Colin Powell.

why won't he run.....
1. He's got a brain and knows how to use it.
2. Isn't going to be any VP's puppet.




I'd like to see two people that have never run for anything above city government office go at it. It would be fresh, interesting, and hopefully not as predictable as the last 24 years have been

and if I can't have that I want Dogshirt and Stormeil to run for office...*nodnodnodnod*
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Posted by: Dogshirt 21-Jun-2006, 06:23 PM
I graciously accept the nomination. wink.gif
The first thing on my platform is to lower beer prices, the country canna continue like this! disgust.gif


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Posted by: ShadowDarkFyre 22-Jun-2006, 09:18 AM
I'm sold... the man has my vote...

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Posted by: stoirmeil 22-Jun-2006, 11:18 AM
Colin Powell breaks my heart. He's kind of an example of why Moynihan never even bothered. And that breaks my heart too.

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait -- you mean you want me to run AGAINST Dogshirt?
No way -- same ticket er nuthin.

But I want an equal co-presidency. tongue.gif

Posted by: j Padraig moore 23-Jun-2006, 09:45 AM
John McCain has my vote.
My in-laws winter in Arizona - McCain's state. They are disillusioned with him though. They say he is now flip-flopping: saying what people want to hear in order to get elected.
On the Dem side, I think Hillary has a snowball's chance in hell of being elected President! In fact, I think the GOP would squeal with delight if she was nominated. Although I am an independent, I live in a very "red" area. Hillary is hated with a passion here!
Actually the best choice I see now for the Dems is Wes Clark. No one else stands out to me.

Posted by: MDF3530 25-Jun-2006, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (j Padraig moore @ 23-Jun-2006, 10:45 AM)
John McCain has my vote.
My in-laws winter in Arizona - McCain's state. They are disillusioned with him though. They say he is now flip-flopping: saying what people want to hear in order to get elected.
On the Dem side, I think Hillary has a snowball's chance in hell of being elected President! In fact, I think the GOP would squeal with delight if she was nominated. Although I am an independent, I live in a very "red" area. Hillary is hated with a passion here!
Actually the best choice I see now for the Dems is Wes Clark. No one else stands out to me.

I like General Clark too. I liked him even before Michael Moore endorsed him. I think the Dems screwed up not backing him in the primary two years ago. They cast their lot with a Beltway insider, forgetting the fact that the last time a senator was elected President was John F. Kennedy.

The Dems need to (old, tired cliche coming up here) think outside the box. Let me give you an example sportswise of how changing tactics can pay off:

The Chicago White Sox had not won the World Series since 1917. They spent the majority of the next century as a prototypical American League team-big, slow, and right-hand dominant, relying on the home run to win ballgames. Then, they brought in a former player for the White Sox, Ozzie Guillen, to be their new manager. He spent his first year evaluating the players they had currently on their roster. The following off-season, they unloaded some dead weight and brought in guys who were willing to play the kind of baseball Ozzie wanted, which was good pitching, good defense, good situational hitting and just enough power to get them over the top. What happened? They won the World Series.

Posted by: Nova Scotian 25-Jun-2006, 07:39 PM
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 21-Jun-2006, 11:35 AM)
Jeb Bush is a moron.

Excuse me but obviously you don't live here in Florida to know that he has done an outstanding job. 5+ hurricanes, social security, he's handled them all outstandingly. So I could understand calling "W" a moron but not Jeb. Even those who I know didn't vote for him like him and agree he's gotton a lot done and agree he'd do better as President then "W".

Posted by: maisky 26-Jun-2006, 05:47 AM
QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 25-Jun-2006, 07:39 PM)
Excuse me but obviously you don't live here in Florida to know that he has done an outstanding job. 5+ hurricanes, social security, he's handled them all outstandingly. So I could understand calling "W" a moron but not Jeb. Even those who I know didn't vote for him like him and agree he's gotton a lot done and agree he'd do better as President then "W".

My dog would be a better president than W. biggrin.gif

Posted by: John Clements 26-Jun-2006, 12:13 PM
Hi all, with the exception of Colin Powell, I wouldn’t expect the correct time from anyone already mentioned, but I think I could trust someone like Barack Obama, or even George Clooney, to do the right thing.

I think I’ll be going back underground now.

J.C.

Posted by: ShadowDarkFyre 26-Jun-2006, 02:21 PM
QUOTE (maisky @ 26-Jun-2006, 12:47 PM)
My dog would be a better president than W. biggrin.gif

your dog...?

Hammy from "Over the Hedge" would be a better president.



Posted by: MDF3530 28-Jun-2006, 09:53 AM
QUOTE (ShadowDarkFyre @ 26-Jun-2006, 03:21 PM)
your dog...?

Hammy from "Over the Hedge" would be a better president.

I don't know if I'd vote for Hammy. RJ definitely, though.

My first choice for a comic strip character for President would be Opus.

Posted by: stoirmeil 28-Jun-2006, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 25-Jun-2006, 08:39 PM)
Excuse me but obviously you don't live here in Florida to know that he has done an outstanding job. 5+ hurricanes, social security, he's handled them all outstandingly. So I could understand calling "W" a moron but not Jeb. Even those who I know didn't vote for him like him and agree he's gotton a lot done and agree he'd do better as President then "W".

Well, fine, if y'all are satisfied with him down there then keep him down there. I think he's deficient based on his views about education mostly, but that's an issue that I'm into up to the neck. I have to say this for Jeb -- he doesn't affect that ridiculous "a-HYUCK! Gawrsh!" faux-bubba speech pattern that W took on, to try and convince us all he's Everyman (which he emphatically is not -- but tragically enough he HAS convinced himself of it).

The editor from the comic strip "Shoe" would work fine for me. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Nova Scotian 28-Jun-2006, 03:05 PM
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 28-Jun-2006, 03:30 PM)
. I think he's deficient based on his views about education


Well it seems that education here in Florida is an on going thing that is obviously not a quick fix. Every Florida Gov. has tried to do some good but in the end it all comes out the same with the same problems. I'm a Firefighter/Paramedic and the starting salery im my field is appx. $38,000 yearly. A teacher makes only 30,000 and that field requires a 4 year degree and a lot of schooling. I think that's part of the problem right there.

Posted by: Nova Scotian 28-Jun-2006, 03:12 PM
I just hope we get a President who strongly supports the 2nd ammendment and believes in the right for law biding citizens to bare arms. As far as I've seen, I'm not impressed.

Posted by: Dogshirt 28-Jun-2006, 04:17 PM
DAMN! I thought that was the right to arm BEARS! Live and learn I guess! wink.gif


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Posted by: ShadowDarkFyre 28-Jun-2006, 04:36 PM
QUOTE (Dogshirt @ 28-Jun-2006, 11:17 PM)
DAMN! I thought that was the right to arm BEARS! Live and learn I guess! wink.gif


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Posted by: Senara 28-Jun-2006, 04:44 PM
QUOTE (Dogshirt @ 28-Jun-2006, 05:17 PM)
DAMN! I thought that was the right to arm BEARS! Live and learn I guess! wink.gif


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well, it would make hunting bear a little more difficult I would guess. Definately much more sporting.... gunsmilie.gif

but it still comes down to one thing...who's got a bigger "gun"

boys and their toys...... smartass.gif

Posted by: stoirmeil 28-Jun-2006, 05:01 PM
QUOTE (Nova Scotian @ 28-Jun-2006, 04:12 PM)
I just hope we get a President who strongly supports the 2nd ammendment and believes in the right for law biding citizens to bare arms.

Actually, a lot of liberals are all for citizens' rights to bare arms, bare legs, bare lots of other things. Except for a few ultra-religious conservative types, who prefer most everything covered, we're pretty blessed that way in this country.

Posted by: Sonee 29-Jun-2006, 07:25 AM
I, personally, don't ever, ever, EVER want to see another Clinton in the White House and I'm feeling almost as adamant about another Bush there as well.

I think we need totally new blood in the government, someone who hasn't been corrupted by politics and the political correctness all politicians pretend to believe in. I'm not really sure what the prerequisites are for becoming President (been to long since high school government class!) but can we have someone with NO previous political experience at all? And while we're on the subject why do we have to have parties at all? If we eliminate all parties and make it "every man for himself", so to speak, then we might actually end up with the best PERSON for the job and not the best PARTY. The issues of education, the war on terror, etc. these are issues that shouldn't be partisan. They affect everyone, everywhere and we should all be on the same 'side' with regards to finding the solution to them.

Party politics has become as predictable as my father's golf game. If the Republicans say 'this' about 'that' subject then the Democrats will say 'that' about the Republicans 'this' and never actually respond to 'that' themselves. And vice versa.

We should throw out all parties and begin to vote as AMERICANS with some form of conscience and not for whose party controls the most seats and who is getting the biggest kickbacks.

Posted by: stoirmeil 29-Jun-2006, 08:52 AM
QUOTE (Sonee @ 29-Jun-2006, 08:25 AM)
I'm not really sure what the prerequisites are for becoming President (been to long since high school government class!)  but can we have someone with NO previous political experience at all?

Access to a whole britches-load of money, for one thing. And that cuts a lot of righteous-everyman potential candidates out of the running. Unless we want completely government-funded elections with no private infusions of any kind, and funding awards strictly on the merits (and a clear way to determine what those are. . .) smile.gif

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