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  Posted: 08-Oct-2006, 10:06 AM
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Hi,
I've been doin' research on my livin' granda [born:Scott/Irish]and he was adopted only days old. His birth name is on his birth cert. my request to obtain was denied [which I totally respect]. I know his surname but not his parents line. I have listened to my granma tell the stories and pieced a highly likely line. What protocal would a genealogist follow? Is his adopted line considered his genealogical line or is his birth line still considered his genealogical line? Although I would not consider his adopted line a true line - he does. I'm doin' the genealogy to find somewhere I belong, the history to be "proud" of, my 'ROOTS", which is, for me anyway, the same but completely differant from the security of what he had with his adopted family and he has no interest of finding out about his birth parents.
I am joenzin' to continue but not sure on which direction to go in. I hope there's someone out there that can help or point me in the right direction to get me closer to the answers to continue and Many.....Many........THANKS......to all of you.......

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Posted: 10-Oct-2006, 10:30 AM
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Well...depends on how you want to handle things. If you're tracing the family tree because you want to know where the *birth* family came from (genetic heritage kinda deal), or to try and determine family medical history, then the obvious choice would be to attempt the birth-family end.

Now, if you want to trace the family who raised him, and where *they* came from (consequently the way you were raised, your values and traditions and such), then I'd go with the adoptive family line.

I've seen it handled both ways and at once, lord knows there's always the occasional adoptee in the family, and *generally* they might have the birth mother and that's about it. If you can get it further I would, personally. Just be very careful that you document it thoroughly, and if you post it to the internet, be discreet in how you do it. Adoption is a touchy subject for a lot of people, and some view it as a shame on the family (both the birth family and even sometimes the adoptive family).

Just some thoughts for you to ponder...


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Posted: 28-Oct-2006, 05:50 PM
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I'm agree with Sekhmet , adoption is a touchy subject and people are not always comfortable to talk about it.Searching on the side of the birth or raising family depend of you and the reason of your search.You seem to reject the family who raise him but a family is not only a question of blood.Why do you want so much.All I recommend you is to be carefull in your search and the reason of it because you can hurt not only yourself but other people too.
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  Posted: 30-Mar-2009, 01:06 PM
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My husband's mother was adopted in Ireland at several days old and brought to America. He dearly loves his grandparents and respects them greatly for adopting his mother and always treating her and them no differently then if they were "blood". But he was raised (by her) to be proud of his heritage (all of it) and would like to try to have some clue as to her lineage. Sadly it may be impossible for him. His father is full native american and his mother is scot/irish. Sadly his mother was murdered when he was 16 years old, his grandmother a few years back and there is no question of asking his grandfather. Both g.parents would take it as a personal affront to even broach the subject. Is he literally at an end to his quest. My family claims him wholeheartedly but he says its not the same. I understand this feeling. His psrents divorced when he was a baby and he never saw his father until he was 18 years old and the man had no time for or interest in him. He also found out he had been split up from a sister 2 years older than him as well. His mother was given the choice to either leave "daddys girl" behind or them both. What a crime to the children! Given the father's attitude his sister feels she has no choice but to follow siut. Its really sad knowing we live 10 minutes away from the only family he has left and they could care less. He has tried numerous times to approach his father but is always rebuffed.My heart aches for him. I only thought perhaps if I could help find something about his mother's clan he could at least feel as if he belong somewhere; he has told me that he has no "people" or "clan lineage". Anyone with any ideas please help me. I realize I'm setting a huge goal for myself as we are not rich and I know this can be expensive but I just need a place to start. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
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Posted: 30-Mar-2009, 05:59 PM
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Does he know whether it was in Northern Ireland or the Republic? In any case, he could start by writing to the social services people over there (don't know what title they might have) and explain the situation to them. They may be able to help. But don't get your hopes up, it might fail too. Then too, there are genaeological sites that have extensive assests in Ireland. One of them may know a productive area to investigate.


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