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Posted by: Elspeth 23-Mar-2006, 09:34 AM
I’m writing a story that includes the disclosure of ‘secret sins’. Kinda Hawthorn-ish

So, I need to come up with some to use in the story.

Give me a list and debate the concept of sin later? Or debate the concept of sin as you list. biggrin.gif

The year is 1816 so the field’s wide open, but I want to use situations that are more universal than some of those narrow times.

The sexual ones are easy. (just no way to word that so it doesn’t sound suggestive) cool.gif

Adultery, fornication, etc. and etc.

What else?



Posted by: stoirmeil 23-Mar-2006, 09:41 AM
Well, you can always fall back on your seven deadlies, yes?
Pride, anger, gluttony, lust, envy, greed, sloth.

Envy is always good . . . I think disdain or contempt of others ought to be added, too, though it's probably a subset of pride.

Eh, so what's a sin? something that creates a potentially fatal barrier to one's spiritual progress or development. Some say it's something that alienates a person from a state of unity with God.

Interesting problem though -- is it just an act of misbehaviour, then, a sin? or more like an alienating state of mind or attitude, that makes you chronically prone to those unacceptable acts?

Posted by: sisterknight 23-Mar-2006, 10:07 AM
some sins are categorized as deadly but then you've got your everyday ones too....neglect, white lies, obsessions, jealousy is always a good one wink.gif
in 1816 what they would have thought as sin, now a days doesn't court as any thing wrong or the matter....as civilization has grown up we become more acustomed to violence, rage and hate and don't react the same way any more....our innocence is gone, trampled by the uncaring and unforgiving


hope this helps a bit...my brain is always open to more picking if it suits you!! beer_mug.gif

Posted by: Aaediwen 23-Mar-2006, 05:30 PM
We may have grown up and stopped reacting to things the same, but that doesn't mean that violence and such are no longer sins. I see sins as acts that bring harm to another being. trampling on someone else in any way to get ahead for example. not taking responsibility for your own actions could be another.

Posted by: stoirmeil 23-Mar-2006, 11:04 PM
QUOTE (Aaediwen @ 23-Mar-2006, 06:30 PM)
. . .  not taking responsibility for your own actions could be another.

That reminds me of another category: sins of omission. The Anglican general confession (Jacobean period wording, but that's what I remember), says:

"We have left undone those things which we ought to have done, and we have done those things which we ought not to have done, and there is no health in us."

In that prayer anyway, the bad things we do are not seen as any worse than the righteous things we did not do, though we could and should have. It's another way to do harm to oneself and others.

Posted by: Swanny 24-Mar-2006, 03:30 AM
How about wanton waste of limited or rare resources - food in subsistence cultures for example,


Posted by: Celtic cat 25-Mar-2006, 11:53 AM
QUOTE (Swanny @ 24-Mar-2006, 04:30 AM)
How about wanton waste of limited or rare resources - food in subsistence cultures for example,

OMG that is absoluting the most right thing I hae ever read.

Indulgence, disrespect, thievery, carelessness....if it is a southern state gambling might be one...jk

Posted by: Druid_of_Ark 11-Dec-2007, 10:13 PM
The fourth cch is to commandment "Thou shalt not Murder" (Hebrew rendering the King James says Kill) in the Christian world that is however not observed in cases where the one to be Murdered has refused to accept the Love of God so if they do not become Christians it is reasoned that the Loving response of the Church is to MURDER the Pagan, heathen infidels. Same philosophy as the Muslims have, best way to tell a Christian from a Muslim is Muslims wear a diaper on their head, Christians wear a cross around their neck. hey have you ever considered that if Jesus had come in the time of the American West, Christians would be constrained to wear a noose instead of a Cross?

Jsut a thought!

Posted by: thecelticgiraffe 13-Feb-2008, 07:15 AM
My opinion is that sin today and back in the early 1800's would the same. As someone else said, just because more is tolerated today doesn't make it a non-sin. Greed, to me, has always been about the biggest sin possible, today and back then! It hurts more people over all than just about anything out there. Secondly I would say treating the Earth "incorrectly" is a big sin as well, since that also hurts more people than can be imagined, in the long run. Many times the waste and harm to the Earth is because of greed...so they go hand-in-hand, and are just plain wrong to partake in..thus sinful. A sin really would be anything that hurts other people..war, physical harm, greed, being mean, etc.

Posted by: Druid_of_Ark 13-Feb-2008, 02:58 PM
Sin is actually a Hebrew Archery term and means missing the center of the target. So I will choose going to the store and being a bit short of change for the purchase.

Posted by: UlsterScotNutt 27-Feb-2008, 12:32 PM
Hi folks,
Paul Tillichs explanation of sin makes sense to me.

Posted by: Patch 19-Apr-2008, 04:03 PM
I recall the Catholic Church added an 8th to the deadly sins. As usual my memory fails me as to the details. My recollection is that it got me so I hope it isn't retroactive.

Slàinte,    

Patch

Posted by: Robert Phoenix 19-Apr-2008, 04:12 PM
This was in an article from Spirit daily.com
"In addition, green themes appeared in the church's March update of the "seven deadly sins." One of the new offenses is "environmental pollution." "

Posted by: Robert Phoenix 19-Apr-2008, 04:20 PM
Now how many of you-without looking-can name the virtues?

Interesting note-Ghandi has a list too-

Wealth without Work
Pleasure without Conscience
Science without Humanity
Knowledge without Character
Politics without Principle
Commerce without Morality
Worship without Sacrifice

Posted by: Patch 19-Apr-2008, 04:30 PM
Yep, the 8th deadly sin did get me. I have not recycled for a long time. I guess I had better start.

Slàinte,    

Patch


Posted by: stoirmeil 03-Jul-2008, 06:59 PM
QUOTE (Robert Phoenix @ 19-Apr-2008, 05:20 PM)
Now how many of you-without looking-can name the virtues?

Interesting note-Ghandi has a list too-

Wealth without Work
Pleasure without Conscience
Science without Humanity
Knowledge without Character
Politics without Principle
Commerce without Morality
Worship without Sacrifice

Well -- faith, hope, and charity (or love), to start with? Then I lose it -- patience? humility? justice? forbearance?

Funny, isn't it, how the vices stand out so much more vividly. no.gif

Posted by: Camac 03-Jul-2008, 07:02 PM
Stoirmeil;;
The two greatest sins are Ignorance and Superstition. For these breed a host of others. Fanaticism, bigotry, genocide, and intolerance to name a few.



Camac.

Posted by: JayHenson 05-Jul-2008, 12:01 AM
Abject stupidity should be a sin.....

Those times (1800's) were still dominated by religious views. So anything not mainstream or in line with the majority would be considered sinful in nature. Using a theme from the very nature of this site I would think that combining religious views with old world (read: immigrants) beliefs could rustle up a sin or three. Perhaps a mother-to-be was caught making some token to appeal for protection for her baby (unwed mother-to-be) or superstitious reactions could be sinful since they impose a fear of things that could not exist in accordance with christian values (ghosts, imps, evil yard gnomes). An old lady is caught putting out milk for the spirits, or people celebrating Beltane or Samhain. Or something as simple as allowing an ankle to be seen by a man who is not your hubby let alone running naked in the corn.

The ability of mankind to categorize ANYTHING as sinful is pretty much unlimited and has been more about power (or guilt) than righteousness (IMHO). Might be a theme to approach as well.

sorry to have rambled on....good luck with the book....we all get signed first editions you know smile.gif

Slàinte,

Jay

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