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Therasa 
  Posted: 30-Nov-2003, 03:36 PM
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I have been told all my life that when someone asks what your background is you are supposed to tell your fathers side.

That has never made any sense to me.

What do you all think/say? I personally acknowledge both parents. After all it's only with both that I am here. cool.gif


Has anyone else ever been told, or heard that? If you have do you know why that is said?



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Posted: 30-Nov-2003, 04:13 PM
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I have never heard that, Therasa! Maybe that explains the reason why I started doing my genealogy I started with my Dad's side. biggrin.gif

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Posted: 30-Nov-2003, 05:25 PM
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Theresa, I have never heard that either! My father's side came right from Italy and that was easy to research, but my mother would be horrified if I didn't mention her side which is English and Scottish! It is her side that I have been doing the geneaology.


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Posted: 30-Nov-2003, 06:09 PM
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Well, when you'r doing blood work you have to consider both sides of the pedigree, I'm thinking. My father, born in Glasgow, gives me 50% Scots blood, but if you consider his family migrated from Ireland, that would change things?

On my Mom's side, my grandfather was Swede, my grandmother, English, Scots and Irish.....so somehow I get over 50% on the Scots side if you throw in Granny's blooding.

But since my father was a born Scotsman, I gotta go with that for at least 50% of my blood in one generation only.....lord, that only makes me first generation Scottish American on my Father's side, but 2nd generation Swedish American on my Mom's side......then if we go way back over a hundred years, I have a great-great (or more?) grandmother on my Father's side who was actually born in America of Irish parents but moved back to Ireland while still a child because her parents were killed in a fire in America....there she met and married an Irishman who moved the clan to Scotland before the turn of the 20th century...gets confusing, eh?

Then if we kick in the relatives on my father's mother's side (Fleming), it traces back to 1066 and the Norman invasion.

However you slice it, I guess my particular loaf is pretty much Northern European white bread....but you don't know where the heck those Viking ancestors dropped seed along the way.

Somehow this all has got to explain my attraction for Redheads, I'm thinking. wink.gif

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Posted: 30-Nov-2003, 06:19 PM
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Traditionally, Scotswomen married into a family (or clan)... although I know both my Dad and my Mum's genealogy back to about 1500s (any earlier and it all becomes a bit hazy unless you were a prominent family - and we weren't!)

I honour both sides of the family. Dad's from Argyll, Mum's from Sutherland. Me? Edinburgh biggrin.gif

I have no other bloodlines in my family except Scots - not even any Irish immigrants (which is a common 'addition' in Scotland since the mid-1800s). Boring, I know. cool.gif
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Hello all-

Thanks for all the responses. I asked my mum today about this. She can't remember where either. So I called both grannies. I got hold of my little gran and she said she remembered hearing it when she was young, the reason she was given was,'the man is the head of the household and he is the more important of the two parents.' Then she laughed, I had to as well. She definately wore the pants in her marriage.
She figures it must just be something from her day that was carried over. She's not too sure.

Catriona- I told my gran about this site and she thinks it's wonderful. She also told me that if I didn't get onto the Ireland forum she was coming over to give me a smack. (Her family is originally from there.) LOL Never mess with the little old ladies, they're pretty darn tuff. She would have to be, she had six kids. boxing.gif


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Posted: 30-Nov-2003, 10:10 PM
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I've been attempting to do genealogical work on both sides of my family, but unfortunately I've only been able to find information for my dad's German/English roots. I would love to learn about my mom's Irish background, but there are so many Bryants/O'Briens that research has been difficult at best. My mom's half Polish (from her mom), but I haven't been able to find any information whatsoever. Seems that Ediskey is not common enough of a name. It's all quite frustrating but fun at the same time. rolleyes.gif


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Posted: 30-Nov-2003, 10:22 PM
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Cailiosa-

I know how you feel. My grans' last name is Doherty. Her family has been the hardest to trace. We at least have family books that take us back to the middle of the 1600's. (on both sides) If not, I think I would have to cry.


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Posted: 30-Nov-2003, 10:34 PM
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I think that both are importnant. I would like to say I have ancestors from many places. It makes me feel more connected to people all over the world. I think it is fun to listen to my gran tell me stories about ancestors from many countries.


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Posted: 30-Nov-2003, 11:24 PM
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Cailosa! On another thread you mentioned doing geneology research on Rootsweb.com and through the LDS church. My cousins have done most of the work but are stuck, so I think I am going to try to start doing this and see if I can solve the problem, hee hee! So is Rootsweb a good place to start or can you and anyone else recommend any other sites? Thanks! smile.gif
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I asked my mom the same question. She told me that traditionally the woman takes the mans last name and through out the ages the womans maiden name get lost so its harder to track her side. I tell about all four of my parents. My mom and dad because, well thats obvious. My step parents because they both have been in my life since I was 2, so they had a very big effect on me as well.


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On my direct paternal line, I've only been able to go back as far as an early 1800's ancestor who family oral tradition says immigrated from Ireland. Family names on my father's side are mostly Scots (McDonald, Campbell, Abbott), and a couple of German (Deppe, Ulmer). On my mother's side, I hit a brick wall with her maternal grandparents who immigrated from Sweden in the late 1800's. However, with her paternal grandparents, I have been able to track some lineages back to pre-Norman Conquest times. I tend to view anything pre-conquest with a good deal of skepticism, as it is largely oral tradition or downright mythical. I have compiled a huge Gedcom, which combines several Gedcoms I have found in a variety of places including the LDS online material. I'm still trying to convince my daughter that the Gandolf she found in the large gedcom file is definitely back in the realm of myth. I do have a bit of editing to do:>).


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QUOTE (CelticRose @ Nov 30 2003, 11:24 PM)
Cailosa! On another thread you mentioned doing geneology research on Rootsweb.com and through the LDS church. My cousins have done most of the work but are stuck, so I think I am going to try to start doing this and see if I can solve the problem, hee hee! So is Rootsweb a good place to start or can you and anyone else recommend any other sites? Thanks! smile.gif

I've had great luck with both the LDS site and RootsWeb. Most of the other genealogical websites I've come across have been pay sites, so these two were certainly a blessing. Both of them certainly don't have records on everything, but are pretty extensive. Good luck on your search!
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Thanks Cailiosa! I am not sure where to start. To start with my living mother and go back, although it has been done already. Or try to find this missing person back in 1800 that we are stuck on, simply because we think his nickname is recorded instead! Someone told me of another site www.ancestry.com Have you seen that one? It is free too.
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Cailiosa-

Thank you so much for putting the web page, rootsweb here. I think it will not only help out myself, but alot of others as well. I appreciate it, I think everyone else does too.

As far as lineage, thank goodness I am not alone. I totally agree that you need both names. Your mothers family does not disappear only because she married. Good lord, it took both to get you here. I think both are important, I mean if you look at yourself and you mother and her family, I'm sure you have some of her traits. So it only makes sense to 'find' both. I think though, that alot of you are having the same trouble as I am. Not only do nicknames affect your efforts, but the fact that the mothers family name(s) have been lost in the past. Not very many people kept really good records.


Take care all. And good luck to everyone in their searches.
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