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This Is Starting To Border On Tyrany

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scottish2	Posted: 27-Jan-2004, 05:36 AM
Celtic Guardian Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 3,048 Joined: 26-Sep-2001 Zodiac: Birch	Now it seems the government has it's hands in our private airline records. Are they issueing search warrants to obtain such records? Nope. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...inson_interview

andylucy

Posted: 27-Jan-2004, 06:28 AM

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Bordering on tyrrany? I'd say it's pretty much there. I loved that quote...

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Hutchinson said the government will work with airlines to deal with their uneasiness but will compel them to participate.

Nope, no choice whether to participate. Turn it over or suffer the consequences. Sounds like the sort of thing that would have made old Brezhnev proud.

And who really believes that it will only be used for the stated purposes? Anyone? Anyone?

Didn't think so.

Just my tuppence.

Andy

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9-1-1: state sponsored Dial-A-Prayer

scottish2	Posted: 27-Jan-2004, 06:31 AM
Celtic Guardian Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 3,048 Joined: 26-Sep-2001 Zodiac: Birch	Well I put borderline but you don't really want to know my true feelings even in a protected forum is too string

andylucy	Posted: 27-Jan-2004, 06:36 AM
High Chief Of The Dartboard Group: Ireland Posts: 466 Joined: 06-Jul-2003 Zodiac: Oak Realm: Western Kentucky	Well, I might not REALLY know, but I have a pretty good idea. Shades of Robespierre!! Andy

scottish2	Posted: 27-Jan-2004, 06:39 AM
Celtic Guardian Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 3,048 Joined: 26-Sep-2001 Zodiac: Birch	I wish we still had it but awhile back we had a smilie being shot from a cannon.

maisky	Posted: 27-Jan-2004, 05:11 PM
King of CelticRadio.net Jesters Group: Founder Posts: 4,633 Joined: 17-Nov-2003 Zodiac: Ivy Realm: Easton, PA	Aw common, we can trust Big Brother, can't we? -------------------- "If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." Carl Sagan

scottish2	Posted: 27-Jan-2004, 05:19 PM
Celtic Guardian Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 3,048 Joined: 26-Sep-2001 Zodiac: Birch	Uha

Mailagnas maqqas Dunaidonas	Posted: 27-Jan-2004, 06:34 PM
Celtic Guardian Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 911 Joined: 18-Nov-2003 Zodiac: Oak	Fortunately, I am seeing an increasing awareness by a wide variety of people from diverse backgrounds that the Bush regime needs to be removed. IMHO, the only real questions at this point is whether the Democrats will offer a candidate who is palatable to the general electorate, and if so, whether the Bush regime will allow an honest election. Unfortunately, I have no real confidence that the answer to either question will be yes. Assuming Bush is "re-elected," I see ever-increasing tyranny. YMMV -------------------- S�och�n leat, Mailagnas Clan Donald USA

scottish2	Posted: 28-Jan-2004, 07:51 AM
Celtic Guardian Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 3,048 Joined: 26-Sep-2001 Zodiac: Birch	Well he should have never been given that office in my view. I mean how tainted was the election and why was he so afraid of letting Florida be recounted in full and properly with all votes being accounted for my those instate and those abroad such as military personel who reside in the state when in country. But I have had problems since day one with Bush and since 911 I can't help but wonder how much he really knew. I know there are theories going around that he let it happen just so he'd have an excuse to push the middle east issue but then it's just hear say and conjecture so don't have any real proof of these statements but I still have to wonder.

maisky	Posted: 28-Jan-2004, 10:18 AM
King of CelticRadio.net Jesters Group: Founder Posts: 4,633 Joined: 17-Nov-2003 Zodiac: Ivy Realm: Easton, PA	Our government lie to us? No way (looking around fearfully). We can ALWAYS trust them.

kevsen

Posted: 28-Jan-2004, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE (Mailagnas maqqas Dunaidonas @ Jan 27 2004, 07:34 PM)

Fortunately, I am seeing an increasing awareness by a wide variety of people from diverse backgrounds that the Bush regime needs to be removed.
IMHO, the only real questions at this point is whether the Democrats will offer a candidate who is palatable to the general electorate, and if so, whether the Bush regime will allow an honest election.
Unfortunately, I have no real confidence that the answer to either question will be yes.
Assuming Bush is "re-elected," I see ever-increasing tyranny.
YMMV

It wouldn't be too much different with a Democrat in office. President Clinton wasn't above using the powers of his office in ways that could be considered tyrannical.

The whole lot of 'em need to be tossed out. However who would take their place? No one that would use the office well runs anymore because they don't want to get "tainted" by having to raise money or some such.

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kevsen

Posted: 28-Jan-2004, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE (scottish2 @ Jan 28 2004, 08:51 AM)

Well he should have never been given that office in my view. I mean how tainted was the election and why was he so afraid of letting Florida be recounted in full and properly with all votes being accounted for my those instate and those abroad such as military personel who reside in the state when in country.

You do not have your facts straight on the Florida Fiasco. I am a resident of Florida, in a county that knows how to use voting machines, and you have misrepresented what happened.

Gore and his supporters only wanted the two most liberal counties recounted, the ones around Miami and West Palm Beach. He did not want the whole state counted. In recount after recount done by newspaper organizations after the election it was found that President Bush did indeed win Florida, in fact his margin of victory grew.

As far as the military absentee ballots go it was Gore and his operatives that moved to have as many of those votes thrown out as possible.

scottish2	Posted: 28-Jan-2004, 01:00 PM
Celtic Guardian Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 3,048 Joined: 26-Sep-2001 Zodiac: Birch	Well at the same time as tossing them out we'd have to amend the constitution to lay out procedures for punishment for certain cases in regards to rogue politicians.

scottish2	Posted: 28-Jan-2004, 01:04 PM
Celtic Guardian Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 3,048 Joined: 26-Sep-2001 Zodiac: Birch	Either way it should have been recounted and not left for the candiates to debate if it should or not. A recount was and is the only fair way to determine a winner.

kevsen

Posted: 28-Jan-2004, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE (scottish2 @ Jan 28 2004, 02:00 PM)

Well at the same time as tossing them out we'd have to amend the constitution to lay out procedures for punishment for certain cases in regards to rogue politicians.

I'm all for it!

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