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  Posted: 17-Sep-2003, 02:57 PM
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Hey Lads,

Just listened to the origional words to 'Rising of The Moon'.

Ah such simple joys in life are rare.

Seldom now does one hear the origional words to the old tunes. Especially here in CANADA. Every touch of our history, or the ballads brought here by our families from lands far away must first pass the national government's current political testing for political correctness.

Fortunately this radio station is located in one of the world's few true democracies, the United States of America, well beyond the touch of the political engineering censors in CANADA's national government.

Yes, as they say, when one forgets one's past one gives up their right to the future and freedom.

Keep up the good work lads and continue to be faithful to the past shown in our ballads and legends.

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Posted: 18-Sep-2003, 10:59 PM
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I guess we should be happy we haven't lost as much as the folk tunes to political- correctness nazis. Ipray not to offend anyone but when political correctness causes the loss of history, and what the mindset was at the time, For me it was Disney's Song of the South". It at the time was politicaly correct. Acceptable. How can we learn from the past if it is censored away from us?
Again- please forgive anything offencive- truely not meant.
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Posted: 19-Sep-2003, 07:03 AM
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Ah, Song of the South. What a great film. It is truely one of my favorites! But, it is BANNED in the US because of it not being PC! I hate that! It really *is* a good film. But Uncle remus being a slave the PC police Bawk at. It is history. It happened. Not proud of it.... And it is a good kids movie...

It is avalible in the UK however... trying to get me hands on a copy.


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Ah, political correctness. Isn't that an oxymoron? What's so correct about politics? wink.gif And how true, if we gloss over our histories, how will future generations learn from them? Thank goodness for forums such as this that keeps the music unadulterated.


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I absolutely positively DO NOT condone downloading copyrighted material, but rumor has it Song of the South can be downloaded from some filesharing programs- about 550-600 MB (Not that I know anything of this). Fair quality. You can also get the PAL format vhs tape thru Amazon.co.uk I think, and video production places can convert it.
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Posted: 20-Sep-2003, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE (barddas @ Sep 19 2003, 08:03 AM)
Ah, Song of the South. What a great film. It is truely one of my favorites! But, it is BANNED in the US because of it not being PC! I hate that! It really *is* a good film. But Uncle remus being a slave the PC police Bawk at. It is history. It happened. Not proud of it....  And it is a good kids movie...

It is avalible in the UK however... trying to get me hands on a copy.

What is so tragic is that the tales of Uncle Remus actually have their roots in African Folk Tales with morals to the stories. They are not racist in the least. I studied Southern Lit. in college and researched these such topics. Bre Rabbit and the gang were tales brought by African slaves who arrived in America and retold to the younger generation of slaves. As they passed from generation to generation the names changed, but the core of the stories stayed the same. There is also a theory that these stories took on a whole new meaning as time passed. Bre Rabbit the trickster stood for the "slave" who out-witted the dumb, slow Fox "master". It was a form of expression---i.e. a way for the slaves to get back at their so called masters, just as the spirituals the slaves sung on the cotton fields was an organized communication system to pass information along from plantation to plantation. Next these old African-American Spirituals will be proclaimed Political Incorrect!

It seems Americans by and large are becoming a group who is easily led by their noses! They "we" are so out of touch with America's roots and its evolution. For example, freedom of religion has now become 'separation of church and state' a famous quote by Thomas Jefferson, a Founding Father. These particular groups (ACLU, for one) who are pressing this issue need to go back and read all of Thomas Jefferson's writings, in particular that same letter which they derive the phrase 'separation of church and state'. Jefferson was answering a concern, by a Baptist group who heard that the Congregationalist demonination was about to be made the national denomination. Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to the Danbury Baptists, assuring them that "the First Amendment has errected a wall of separation between the church and the state. His letter explained that they need not fear the establishment of a national denomination---and that while the wall of the First Amendment would protect the church from government control---there would always be open a free religious expression of all orthodox religious practices, for true religious duties would never threaten the purpose of government.' *

The First Amendment actually says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

The Danbury Baptists group in 1801 were concerned about a national denomination being errected as was done in England with the Church of England. They felt that this would endanger every American's right to freedom of religion/to believe in their religion of choice.
To show the mindset of the Founding Fathers and their intention of the First Amendment concerning religion, I will quote George Washington's Farwell Address. Washington pointed out that the two foundations for political prosperity in America were religion and morality, and that no one could be called an American patriot who attempted to separate politics from its two foundations. He explained:

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars."

Washington's Farewell Address used to be in our U.S. History books in public schools, but no more. Our Founding Fathers delivered to us a system of government which has enjoyed uprecedented success (until of late): we are now the world's longest on-going constitutional republic. Two hundred years under the same document and under one form of government. This is an accomplishment unknown among contemporary nations. For example, Russia, Italy, France, and other nations underwent revolutions about the same time as the American Revolution, but with very different results. Consider France: in the last 200 years it has gone through seven completely different forms of government; Italy is now in its 51st; yet we are still in our first. *

I know it seems I have went completely off the topic, but bare with me. Political Correctness springs from the same muddy source as the groups who have subverted our Constitution and warped its meanings with crazy interpretations. For instance, Federal Taxation, along with the Federal Courts trampling the 10th Amendment are taking the States soviergnty away. When States Rights are stolen, our indiviual liberty is stolen!

Oh dear, I now sound like "Chicken Little", screaming the sky is falling! The sky is falling... rolleyes.gif I guess this is a little too heavy for the discussion forum and should have been posted in the Political Forum---sorry---but I thought there was a clear parallel between P.C. and the subversion of our U.S.Constitution. wink.gif

**source: America's Heritage by David Barton, Wallbuilder's Press.


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