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Arnold The Next Govenor?, Political Debates

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Annabelle	Posted: 06-Oct-2003, 07:46 PM
Celtic Guardian Group: Scotland Posts: 4,920 Joined: 15-Jul-2003 Zodiac: Elder Realm: Outer Space	Every one knows Arnold is running for Govenor. How would you vote and why? -------------------- My heart will always be in the Highlands! www.highlanderhouse.com

Mayte2	Posted: 07-Oct-2003, 11:30 AM
Celtic Guardian Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 225 Joined: 01-Oct-2003 Zodiac: Ivy Realm: Hemel Hemsptead - originally nr LLantrisant	Aaaaaaah ... Arnie eh??? The old groper?? Errrrr .. I don`t think I would to be honest. But then. I`m not in the States so I don`t have to worry about it -------------------- If it breaks when it bends, ya better not put it in!!

Aon_Daonna	Posted: 07-Oct-2003, 02:59 PM
The Wolf Lady Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 2,966 Joined: 06-Apr-2002 Zodiac: Ivy Realm: Fife, Scotland	thankfully yes, I'm not californian nor american =) but I certainly wouldn't vote for him.. simply because I'm not for conservatives -------------------- Moderator: The Playground (RPG) Carpe Jugulum Carved with a twisted smile An epitaph for sorrow Sethian - Epitaph If anybody wants a costum signature, pm me!

silverdragon	Posted: 07-Oct-2003, 06:06 PM
Celtic Guardian Group: Scotland Posts: 397 Joined: 09-Sep-2003 Zodiac: Holly Realm: Tarzana, CA	Well, I am American and I live in California. Recalling Davis - a good thing. The man has hamstrung our state government with his micromanaging ways. Ahnold - a very BAD thing. Would I rather have 2 more years of Gray the Control Freak? No. Do I want Arnold in charge of the state? No. I'm voting for recall and for Bustamante. I just hope sanity strikes the state in time... What am I saying? This is California! Get ready for the Gubernator... -------------------- Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning? ~ J.R.R. Tolkien My blog: Almost, but not quite, entirely unrelated to filmmaking

Annabelle	Posted: 07-Oct-2003, 09:38 PM
Celtic Guardian Group: Scotland Posts: 4,920 Joined: 15-Jul-2003 Zodiac: Elder Realm: Outer Space	Surely if Arnold wore his Conan The Barbarian outfit, every woman in California would vote for him... I'm a republican who believes in strong defense for this country. If Arnold wins I believe it will be because of his movie star statues that gets it for him... too many questions about his past. Talking out both sides of my mouth? well yea, that's politic's for ya! Annabelle

maryellen	Posted: 08-Oct-2003, 06:17 AM
Celtic Guardian Group: England Posts: 344 Joined: 20-Sep-2003 Zodiac: Hazel Realm: Saint Louis, Missouri, USA	I would not vote for Arnold. He is representing the Republican party in the election, but does not want to take their views with him. For example, he is pro-abortion and soft on illegal immigration. I guess its better than Davis. Those against him like to say: well it's his hollywood status etc. etc. Does anybody remember President Reagen? Hello? He was an actor and was elected president twice. Just because someone can act does not mean they are stupid or incapable of making good decisions. Mary Ellen BA Theater Arts MAE Communication -------------------- Seize the time,. . .live now, make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again- Star Trek TNG "The report of my death was an exaggeration." -Mark Twain, After reading his own obituary, June 2, 1897 If you ever have a world, plan ahead, don't eat it! - Star Trek TNG

barddas	Posted: 08-Oct-2003, 10:20 AM
Offical sacrifice to the guitar gods-Play til you bleed Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 2,030 Joined: 06-Nov-2002 Zodiac: Willow Realm: second star to the right, straight until morning	Shouldn't this be in the Politics Live forum??? It's just a wee to serious in the pub for me.... -------------------- BARDDAS BLOG/WEB SITE Co Founder/Member of the KDC Music is holy, art is sacred, and creativity is power Everyday is EARTH DAY to a farmer "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." Oscar Wilde Some men are drawn to oceans, they cannot breathe unless the air is scented with a salty mist. Others are drawn to land that is flat, and the air is sullen and is leaden as August. My people were drawn to mountains- Earl Hamner Jr.

Aon_Daonna	Posted: 08-Oct-2003, 10:24 AM
The Wolf Lady Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 2,966 Joined: 06-Apr-2002 Zodiac: Ivy Realm: Fife, Scotland	even in a pub you discuss politics! or you go on ranting over harder things! (At least it's like that in the pubs I visited)... I liked the thing they said in Radio 1 this morning: Kindergarten Cop is the new governor of california grins I mean that on a funnier note.

RavenWing	Posted: 08-Oct-2003, 01:00 PM
Dorkus Trollus Maximus Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 1,609 Joined: 07-Feb-2003 Zodiac: Hazel Realm: Indiana, USA	I like Arnold. His version of moderate Rebublicanism runs almost equal with my political beliefs. I would like to see if he is able to have any real accomplishments while he is in office. -------------------- May all your up's and down's be under the sheets! Religion is for those who are afraid of going to Hell. Spirituality is for those who have already been there. - Anonymous

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Posted: 10-Oct-2003, 04:48 AM

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QUOTE (barddas @ Oct 8 2003, 12:20 PM)

Shouldn't this be in the Politics Live forum???

It's just a wee to serious in the pub for me....

this thread is in Politics live online.

scottish2

Posted: 10-Oct-2003, 04:51 AM

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QUOTE (Aon_Daonna @ Oct 8 2003, 12:24 PM)

even in a pub you discuss politics! or you go on ranting over harder things!
(At least it's like that in the pubs I visited)...

I liked the thing they said in Radio 1 this morning: Kindergarten Cop is the new governor of california *grins*
I mean that on a funnier note.

I think though where we have politics we should try and keep them here as this is what this threads for. I mean a small chat is fine as they always pop up in general discussion but heavier debates and discussions I feel should be brought into the politics areana. The Pub should be more relaxed and enjoyable without the debates and such of politics. A place to go and unwind.

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Posted: 10-Oct-2003, 05:08 AM

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OK Now for the question. Unsure if I would vote for him, but not because of the last minute issues that popped up. Personally I put little faith in a lot of the aligations. He was honest and admitted some misdoings and I feel he proved himself to me by doing this and being honest which a lot of politicians (Need I remind you of clinton "it depends on the definition of the word "is"") aren't today and why would he admit some and then deny the others. And if these were such a big problem why were no sexual harrassment charges ever brought long ago????

As for the Hitler comments I saw another article where someone who knew Arnold in his younger days said Arnold helped to break up neo nazi gatherings. And from speaking with a friend of mine even if Arnold did say he admired Hitler even the author stated the reasons Arnold supposedly said such comments. In fact I was just going back over the articles on this on yahoo and find in fact even the guy making the allegations specifically says Arnold never mentioned Hitler and he also says "In the film" which makes me have to go humm even more. To me this is just nothing more then dirty politics at it's usual.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...tler_comments_1

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"Pumping Iron" director George Butler quoted Schwarzenegger in a book proposal and told ABC the quotes needed to be seen in context to be understood. He told The New York Times he stood by a recollection of Schwarzenegger playing Nazi marches and mimicking SS officers but said Schwarzenegger was an immature young man involved in the outlandish bodybuilding culture of the 1970s.

In the film, Schwarzenegger never mentions Hitler, but says, "I was always dreaming about very powerful people, dictators and things like that. I was just always impressed by people who could be remembered for hundreds of years."

And if this was a film then Arnold could very well have just been praticing his role. I never saw this film so...

RavenWing	Posted: 10-Oct-2003, 09:56 AM
Dorkus Trollus Maximus Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 1,609 Joined: 07-Feb-2003 Zodiac: Hazel Realm: Indiana, USA	From what I understand, his comments were related to how he was able to go from nothing to being "something".

scottish2	Posted: 10-Oct-2003, 10:05 AM
Celtic Guardian Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 3,048 Joined: 26-Sep-2001 Zodiac: Birch	Well while talking to my friend he actually agreed with Arnold (Providing Arnold did actually say these things) and he agreed because it is what Hitler accomplished not what he did. I mean he came from a small famil and rose to the same level as a president or king and I know my friend did do some research on Hitler back when he was in Collage for something he did and he actually too is impressed with what Hitler acomplished for Germany. While I personally have not researched Hitler he (my friend) did say that from his research he found that Hitler did alot of positive things for Germany as well but these always get buried by the evil things he did during his last years. A person can admire a person in one way yet not another. For instance I admire Bush for getting to the status of President but I do not admire him for what he is doing to our country. Ok now you can all go ahead and blast me for what I just said.

RavenWing	Posted: 10-Oct-2003, 10:10 AM
Dorkus Trollus Maximus Group: Celtic Nation Posts: 1,609 Joined: 07-Feb-2003 Zodiac: Hazel Realm: Indiana, USA	no blasting from me!

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