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Posted by: oldraven 29-Sep-2005, 07:46 AM
After my third 35mm Minolta XG-1(9) SLR, two of which decided they didn't need light seals anymore, I made the switch to the digital age. I've had my Minolta Dimage E323 for a little over a year, and it has been a great camera. But it's point and shoot. I gave my only good working XG-1 to my sister, when I got the XG-9 and all its goodies. So now I'm left with a beautiful to look at XG-9 and three lenses that I can't use. The majority of the seven rolls of film I took on vacation had severe over exposure.

So this is what I got last night. Minolta, I still love you. And when (not if) I get myself another 35mm, I'll be getting a Maxxum. Take comfort in that. But for digital SLR's, you can't beat the feature/quality/$ value of a Canon.

I got a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT 8.0mp. I've only had it for about twelve hours, but I LOVE it!

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I got the silver one. I'm hoping my flash works with it. It has a build in one, if not.

Posted by: stoirmeil 29-Sep-2005, 09:14 AM
When you have the talent and the eye -- which I think you do -- you might as well have the best instrument you can get. Good shooting! Hope we see some of the images. (Planning any fall foliage tours?)

Posted by: oldraven 29-Sep-2005, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 29-Sep-2005, 08:14 AM)
(Planning any fall foliage tours?)

Actually, on the way home I'll be making a stop. biggrin.gif

I've got to fix that picture. I posted the 350D instead of the Rebel XT. It's the identical camera, though.

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Posted by: A Shrule Egan 29-Sep-2005, 05:42 PM
Annabelle has a very nice Canon set up and it takes beautiful pictures. The only problem that I see with everything she has, she needs to buy another seat on a plane for bringing it along. She has multiple lens and filters and it's happy hernia time trying to carry it all around.

At the Bethlehem Celtic Fest, Annabelle decided to only bring two lens and a filter or two. She left the bag back at the room. Still, with that medium lens on, hanging over her shoulder, I got whacked a few times. SHE'S DANGEROUS with that thing. biggrin.gif


Posted by: j Padraig moore 30-Sep-2005, 10:38 AM
OR,
How are you liking your new canon?
I still shoot film, but honestly would like to switch to digital. Alas, my wife is totally opposed to digital! She hates it!!
Why does that matter? For one, I have a degree in photography. Worked in it a number of years (Been out of it for almost 19 years now though). She has always been a photo buff and is knowledgable about photography - more than the typical guy on the street. So she knows what she is talking about. She has decided she does not like digital and simply, if she doesn't like it, then I cannot make the switch. Does that make sense?
She would never approve of spending the money on a good digital SLR.

Anyway, let us know how it is going.

Posted by: oldraven 30-Sep-2005, 11:08 AM
JPM, I can say this much. This picture was taken at 34" x 23" (roughly). That's 2496 x 1664, and that's what Canon considers 'low resolution'. Of course, Photobucket had to resize it, as they only take pictures under 250kb. I've included a cropped version that was shrunken down to 800x800 to show clarity. These pictures are 100% stock/undoctored (and taken while still trying to figure the thing out). That's something I can't say from my other work in my photo thread. They were taken while in full auto mode, so imagine the control you can have over this. I've found new buttons that I've never even heard of. smile.gif

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35mm is the equivalent of 6.0mp, so anything above that is leaving film behind. I'm still a 35mm fan. There's something about putting light to a solid medium that gives it a quality all its own. Plus, the classic feel of loading film is lost on most people in this age.

But the bottom line is, who's camera will it be? Hers, or yours? wink.gif Do what you want. Trust me, my wife didn't like the idea of a $1200 camera. laugh.gif

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Posted by: Aaediwen 30-Sep-2005, 06:30 PM
My dad's camera, which I nab for most occasions when I can, is a 6 MP version of the same camera. I can't say I've been disappointed in any way. Although, who am I to say. But dad seems the same way, and he knows his photography!

Posted by: j Padraig moore 03-Oct-2005, 10:10 AM
Thanks OR. Those are great!
I need to do something soon though - I just got a "commission" from the local doctors office. He wants some photos of the community to put up in the office!
I am actually pretty excited about it. He suggested sending the files to Shutterfly and letting them produce 16x20s that we can frame.

Any thoughts?

Posted by: stoirmeil 03-Oct-2005, 10:37 AM
QUOTE (j Padraig moore @ 30-Sep-2005, 11:38 AM)
She has decided she does not like digital and simply, if she doesn't like it, then I cannot make the switch. Does that make sense?
She would never approve of spending the money on a good digital SLR.


unsure.gif Not a lot of sense, I don't think, since you would be the one using it. Unless money is the only issue.

Now this is an interesting thing I didn't think about. I'm no photographer, but I love the finished work as art, all kinds of things. When you use film, you still have the developing part of the work to manipulate the image further, don't you? For light and contrast and all that? I suppose with digital you could do anything you want after the fact, but is it still the same art?

OR, that is so bigtime your kid. biggrin.gif She is going to look more like you every year.

Posted by: oldraven 03-Oct-2005, 10:42 AM
I'm not sure how their full size prints are, but I just got my first prints with this camera processed at Wall Mart (the evil). It's easy as pie. There's an ATM like thing that you insert your memory card into, you pick the pictures you want at whatever size/finish you want, in whatever quantities you need. 4X6's are 25c a piece, and are as crisp and clean as any 35mm I've ever seen.

Digi SLR's are getting upwards of 11mp all the way to 16mp now. That's nearly three times the resolution of 35mm. If you do large print commissions, I'd to with one of the 11mp's. smile.gif That was beyond my need, and my price range.

stoirmeil, I can only take that as a compliment. biggrin.gif I see a lot of Ange in her, but her expressions are all me. And I hope she continues to take after her Mum. She doesn't need the fiery part of my personality (though Ange has almost as much spark). Then again, her middle name is 'little fiery one'. unsure.gif Oh well, I'm sure it'll make life interesting, at any rate.

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Posted by: j Padraig moore 03-Oct-2005, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 03-Oct-2005, 11:37 AM)

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unsure.gif Not a lot of sense, I don't think, since you would be the one using it. Unless money is the only issue.



Frankly, my wife is my toughest photography critic. We have had some photos taken of the kids, for school, sports, etc that were digital. She was not impressed with the quality at all! I think they were 8 mp.
I just know it would be a really hard-sell to convince her to spend that kind of money a good digital camera.

Posted by: oldraven 03-Oct-2005, 11:20 AM
Five very important words.

"30 day money back guarantee."

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Posted by: j Padraig moore 04-Oct-2005, 10:16 AM
QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 03-Oct-2005, 11:37 AM)
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unsure.gif Not a lot of sense, I don't think, since you would be the one using it. Unless money is the only issue.


Stormeil,
I've thought a little more about your comment. I guess for me, it is important what she thinks, that is if she really doesn't like digital, then it is important for me not to use a system she does not approve of.
The photographs we take are very important to her.

Posted by: oldraven 04-Oct-2005, 10:34 AM
J. Tell your wife to open her mind and at least try it. You make her sound like a tyrant. You don't have a say? I hate to stir up trouble, but it sounds like one of those 'foot down' moments to me. I can't see any harm in trying something new. shutup.gif Why would something so trivial as digital vs. film be such an issue where you are afraid to even try it.

If she's worried about not being able to print them to paper, I can say my prints from cheap-o wall mart are every bit as good as any 35mm prints I've ever seen. With the options today, the only issue I can come up with is fear of change. sad.gif

Bottom line, it's your life. This is just what I'd do. Do what's right for you. (I can't believe this got so serious)

If you could ask her for some solid reasons why she dislikes digital photography so much, I'd like to hear them. To see if I can address some of them to find out if her fears are valid. smile.gif In the mean time, I'd like to point you toward a good friend of mine from Adelaide Australia who takes some amazing digital photography. Perhaps that may help.

http://adam1975.deviantart.com/gallery/

Posted by: stoirmeil 04-Oct-2005, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (j Padraig moore @ 04-Oct-2005, 11:16 AM)
I guess for me, it is important what she thinks, that is if she really doesn't like digital, then it is important for me not to use a system she does not approve of.
The photographs we take are very important to her.

Well, then it IS important not to make the investment until or unless she wants to rethink it. I'm inclined to think about it more the way OR does, except every marriage is unique, and if you have a good respectful understanding the way you are, the camera thing really could get to be a bigger issue than it seems from the outside, and not worth it. I wonder, though -- can you rent equipment to try it out? And make sure to shoot important images both ways while you try it out.

Posted by: j Padraig moore 06-Oct-2005, 05:40 AM
Wow! ohmy.gif

This is getting more serious than it really is. It is a choice - the wife has seen the results of some digital photography and was not impressed. This is not to say that "one day" we will not get a good digital system.
I appreciate the feed back from the two of you.

OR - do you print your own hard copies of your photographs (at home) or do you take them somewhere to get prints?

Posted by: oldraven 06-Oct-2005, 07:55 AM
I used to, but even the so called Photo printers are sub par. I'm not sure how the dedicated 4X6 printers out there (Kodak dock, Canon SELPHY, etc) work. We have an Epson Photo Stylus 11x17 that cost us the large (drafters, so we needed the larger media), and a Lexmark Photo printer/fax/copy/scanner, but the images alwyas ended up grainier than we liked.

Turns out it has everything to do with the photo resolution (6.0mp+). I took my compact flash card in to wallmart, and used their Photo lab machine. The quality is second to none. I can't say that about my 3.2mp photos. No matter how good they look on your screen, they need to be higher than 6.0mp to look right on paper. I have no idea why this is, but it's been proven to me.

http://www.walmartphotocentre.ca/walmartcanada/walmart/popup_frame.jsp The prices are probably a bit better on your side. I've never checked out the US site.

Posted by: Haldur 06-Oct-2005, 01:30 PM
I'm envious

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QUOTE (Haldur @ 06-Oct-2005, 12:30 PM)
I'm envious

That's no way to be. tongue.gif



Actually, so was I, for far too long.

Posted by: CelticRose 08-Jul-2006, 08:29 PM
Wow! This thread is almost a year old and I am now just seeing it! OOPS!

OR, if you are still around, I am very envious of your camera! I want one of those Canon EOS Rebel SLR digitals SO BAD I can taste it! However, I can't convince hubby to spend the money. He surprised me with a digital camera two years ago. I had no idea he was going to do this and if I had known, I would have told him what I wanted. But bless his heart, he tried and I do have a very nice Fujifilm Finepix S3000 (that is now discontinued) that I use. However, like JP, I was a photography major in college as well and want more! This is a nice point and shoot, but I want a SLR digital, but hubby cannot justify spending $1200 on a camera and refuses to. Since I no longer work, it is not like I can go out and buy one anyway. So like JP says, all marriages are different.

I honestly think the digital is far better technology than the 35 mm realm, but to each his own. I love the aspect of knowing if I got the shot I wanted and how it looks immediately. If it didn't turn out, I can delete it! Eventually the 35 mm era is going to go out. I was told in the next 10 years film cameras will be obsolete.

Right now I would love to sell my 2 Canon AE-1 35 mm SLRs and lenses, etc. tions. Not that there is anything wrong with them, because there is not. It is just that I don't ever use them and want to use the money towards a Canon SLR digital. I am not sure the best way to go about selling this equipment with the exception of eBay. Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks!

Posted by: j Padraig moore 13-Jul-2006, 09:35 AM
You know Rose, I have twice in the past few months, almost made the purchase of a Canon Rebel EOS digital. Once on Amazon.com, where I found a body for $699. I already have a film Rebel EOS, so I don't need the lenses. Plus the $100 rebate Canon offers brought it down to $599 (plus shipping and tax). I actually ordered it but then canceled the order when some other financial issues came up over that weekend.
Just last weekend a local camera store is offering a 12-months same as cash deal on all digital cameras. I took the wife in to "look around" laugh.gif Unfortunately she still is not a fan of digital photography and was not pleased with my idea of purchasing the camera. argue.gif

So I am still "digital-less" I want that camera so bad I can taste it!!!

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Posted by: CelticRose 13-Jul-2006, 11:06 PM
Oh gosh, JP! I hear you loud and clear. I want a Canon Rebel digital SLR camera so bad I can taste it as well. But I cannot convince my hubby that we need to buy one either...boo hoo! I guess I will have to wait till my Fugifilm digital goes kaput and requires more repairs than what it is worth before I *hopefully* get a new one....that being the Canon SLR dig camera. And even then, I don't know if he will go for it as we still have our Canon 35 mm camera(s) and thinks they are sufficient! Oh boo hoo hoo hoo hoo! One day for us, eh? unsure.gif crybaby.gif

Posted by: CelticRose 31-Dec-2006, 06:56 PM
Well my day finally came! I got my Canon Rebel EOS d-slr for Christmas! clap.gif What a really nice camera, but now I got learn how to use it! EEP! And it has a lot on there to learn. I only got the 8 mp one as I didn't feel I needed the 12 mp. Some people might argue, but it is not like I am planning to blow up images to poster size. wink.gif

JP, this is for you. Hope you see this. A guy in my re-enactment group is a pro photographer and he told me he has been buying all his equipment through buydig.com for years. I got a really good deal on this camera and that included the lens! Here's hoping your wife has since "sold out."

Posted by: Aaediwen 01-Jan-2007, 10:50 AM
QUOTE (CelticRose @ 31-Dec-2006, 07:56 PM)
Well my day finally came! I got my Canon Rebel EOS d-slr for Christmas! clap.gif What a really nice camera, but now I got learn how to use it! EEP! And it has a lot on there to learn. I only got the 8 mp one as I didn't feel I needed the 12 mp. Some people might argue, but it is not like I am planning to blow up images to poster size. wink.gif


My dad has recently blown up some pictures he took with his 6 MP Cannon EOS digital SLR and ran them off on a 42" roll feed plotter. WOW! The image held together pretty well, and about the only major thing I saw hurting quality was the type of paper it was printed on that kindof hampered the color quality. I wish I could show you the print over the Internet. I was impressed!

Also, you ought to be able to pick up using that camera pretty quick. At least basic use anyway. I've been using my dad's to learn photography. Generally I only tend to use a couple of settings on the camera, myself. For automatic F-stop and aparture adjustments depending on the environment and subject. I've gotten more comfortable with manual focus too. My OVFF pics here on CRN were the first pics I took with it on my own. I'll need to see if I can find some of the ones that I took in Washington...

You'll be fine with that camera smile.gif

Posted by: j Padraig moore 02-Jan-2007, 07:06 AM
Hey Rose that is great!!! thumbs_up.gif
I am really glad to hear that you got your camera! I can't wait to see your photos...soon I hope!

We still are not anywhere close to getting a good digital SLR system. It's really a matter of not having the money for it now. But someday!

Posted by: oldraven 02-Jan-2007, 12:02 PM
Nice. I'm very glad for you, Rose. So, you have the same model I have then (8.1Mp). I'm sure you love it already. Like Aaed said, it's very user friendly on full auto. Point and shoot is better than most, and as your skill level increases, it will grow with you as you use more and more funcions.

Happy capturing. king.gif

Posted by: CelticRose 06-Jan-2007, 06:21 PM
Hey thanks everyone! I am slowly but surely reading all the manuals and playing with my new d-slr. Mostly I just love looking at it right now...must be a female thing! laugh.gif Still can't believe I got it!

OR, you have the same camera? For some reason I had forgotten all about that. Looking forward to see some new photos on here from you! I am sure you have some awesome ones. How is being back in Nova Scotia? I bet awesome! how is little one?

JP, your day will come. A great opportunity came our way (won't go into detail on here) and that was the only reason why and how I got my camera. I hope and pray the same for you.

I was told I could get an adapter to use my old lenses with this new camera, but the guy at the camera shop (where I went only to buy minor accesories) told me no. That I would not get anywhere the camera's ability to perform that way and for $100.00 for an adapter, I should spend the extra $100 on a much nicer Canon lens. What do you guys think?

Aaediwen! Your father must be into photography big time! thanks so much!

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