As I mentionned previously Electric Scotland website is an excellent choice for search in clan & septs history. Let us know when you get or see the book if it was worth while about the Colonel.
Thanks, LOA
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| Posted by: Lady of Avalon 03-May-2008, 10:56 AM | ||
| I started this new topic for Patch about Colonel Anne MacKintosh. This is his knowledge of her involvement at Culloden.
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| Posted by: Lady of Avalon 03-May-2008, 11:04 AM |
| Patch, I did a bit a research on Colonel Anne and actually she was married to a Scots who fought for the English his name was Angus MacKintosh and he was chief of Clan MacKintosh. And she did not really hold a military rank because when her husband was arrested by Prince Charlie he was put into her custody and she greeted him by his rank "your servant captain and he answer likewise "your servant colonel". There is a book that you might find interesting its call "Colonel Anne MacKintosh" Scotland's Beautiful Rebel By Jean MacKintosh Goldstrom. Hope it help a bit for your reasearch. LOA |
| Posted by: Patch 03-May-2008, 02:12 PM |
| Thank you. I will pick it up. All I had found on the net was a two paragraph account at 8 or so deferent sites. I know because of her husbands position with the English at the time, she retained her life. Many of the other Clansmen didn't. My ancestors were in that battle. Some died in battle or were executed later. I came about because some made a hasty migration to France. My grandfather had an old portrait of an aged Scot with a Tartan "wrapped kilt", seated on a stool(?) with an upright Claymore. I am told all of the "posing" means something. First though, I doubt any of my ancestors was wealthy enough to have a portrait painted. Thus it must have been someone important to my ancestors. By the time It came to me there was no one left to ask about its origins. Thanks for the information re: Col Anne Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Camac 03-May-2008, 02:24 PM | ||
If I may,a minor correction. The "Black Watch" was on the Continent at the time of Culloden fighting in the War of the Austrian Susession. In 1745 they took part in the Battle of Fontenoy in Holland which was a British defeat. The next time the Watch was in battle was at Ticonderoga. Here again a British defeat. Camac. |
| Posted by: Patch 03-May-2008, 03:36 PM |
| It was my understanding that Col. Anne's husband was serving on English soil when she (in his absence) relayed the Clans However he was not involved in the battle. Probably the best information I got was from the Clan MacKintosh and it was limited. Thanks Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Camac 03-May-2008, 04:26 PM | ||
Patch if you haven't already go to Electric Scotland and look up Col. Anne Macintosh. It will give you some info. on the lady. Camac. PS. By the way at this point in its' history The Black Watch was a Campbell regiment. |
| Posted by: Patch 03-May-2008, 05:05 PM |
| Thanks, I will. I believe the Campbells and The MacKintoshes had ties at that time and at some point later Clan Mackintosh became the stronger of the two and thus provided the Clan Chief. (This from Clan MacKintosh again.) Most of my really old geneology came from Clan MacKintosh. Thanks again Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Lady of Avalon 03-May-2008, 06:12 PM |
| Hi Patch, Camac is correct about more info on Colonel Anne on the web site Electric Scotland. And this where I found the bits of info about her for you.This web site provides a lot of history information about the Clans of Scotland and also about their septs. I've been receiving their newletters now for some years and find it always interesting. Check it out it might worth it. LOA |
| Posted by: Camac 03-May-2008, 06:15 PM | ||
Patch; My friend again if you log on to Electric Scotland you will find some good info on the MacKintosh also if you can get a hold The Highlanders by Skene a very informative work. From what little I can recollect with out reading more about the only ties the Campbells had with the MacKintosh would be they were both loyal to the English crown at the time of Culloden. If you like I will delve into your family more if you wish. Camac. |
| Posted by: Patch 03-May-2008, 06:31 PM |
| I am fortunate to have a book store that has been able to get unusual and out of publication books for me. I will check out the web site and would appreciate any further information you can provide. My family went from Scotland to France to America in a short time frame. My aunt took the geneology to France but not Scotland. I did that and the Clan helped. A family I correspond with in Northern Scotland helps verify things from time to time. I am far from being certain of all the relationships yet. Thanks again Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Camac 03-May-2008, 07:58 PM | ||
Patch; Ritchie is definately connected to MacKintosh which in turn comes from MacDuff, Earl of Fife. I will try and get more info for you over the next few days. As you spring from MacDuff I will see what connection there is to the MacDuff in (That Scottish Play) MacBeth. Camac. |
| Posted by: Patch 04-May-2008, 01:52 PM | ||
Electric Scotland "print" is quite small. I have been taking a small portion , placing it in E-mail and sending it ti myself. I can get it large enough to read that way. There is a wealth of Information there. I think Monday I will go to the book store. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Lady of Avalon 04-May-2008, 02:27 PM |
| Hi Patch, Glad this site was a good source of information for you. As I mentionned previously Electric Scotland website is an excellent choice for search in clan & septs history. Let us know when you get or see the book if it was worth while about the Colonel. Thanks, LOA |
| Posted by: Patch 04-May-2008, 07:35 PM |
| As I recall, I saw it somewhere offered for sale. I think it may still be easily obtainable. The book store I usually buy from has been able to find things that I didn't think they would. (small print runs, out of print and limited interest). Thanks for the help! Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Camac 05-May-2008, 12:07 PM |
| Patch; Have you looked under "The Clan of the Cat" on Google under Clan MacKintosh. Camac. |
| Posted by: Patch 05-May-2008, 01:46 PM | ||
Thanks, I will try that. I retired before I had to learn computers and got my first computer while was "restricted' due to by-pass surgery. I am on my third computer and I am still teaching myself. If I could sit here longer I could surf more but about 15 min is tops. Thanks again. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Patch 05-May-2008, 04:17 PM |
| I ordered the Col. Anne book and a a 400 plus page book on the Clans of Scotland. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Lady of Avalon 05-May-2008, 06:56 PM |
| Hi Patch, I hope this book will provide the informations you wanted about her. My instincts tells me yes for it is written by a Mackintosh and probably this book is dedicated to her role in the '45 rising. Let me know when you get it. LOA |
| Posted by: Lady of Avalon 03-Jul-2008, 07:17 PM |
| Patch, Did you get the book yet? If so, have you had time to read it a bit and let us know if you found what you were looking for!! LOA |
| Posted by: Patch 06-Jul-2008, 11:14 AM |
| I did get the book and just read a few isolated pages. I believe it will be interesting, at least to me, as my Clan affiliation is MacKintosh. The other book, "A History of the Clans of Scotland" will be a hard book to read. I am reading two borrowed books right now and when those are returned, Col. Anne will be next. Sorry I didn't pick up on this right away. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Lady of Avalon 07-Jul-2008, 06:33 PM |
| Thanks Patch and keep us posted on the information that you'll find . LOA |