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Posted: 03-Mar-2006, 06:54 PM
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Finally, the truth about Katina is surfacing. Bush, the manic psychotic is not capable of admitting that he was wrong. I see the nice republicant sheep bleating about "the aclu" and "Al Gore". They still think the nice little brown "cakes" from the bull's pasture, given to them by Mr. Rove, is really cake. rolleyes.gif

Fortunately, the majority of Americans are finally getting it. Midterm elections are coming. Have a nice day. Enjoy your "cakes". Quiver in your shoes, you "conservative sheep", I'm back. biggrin.gif


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Who forget to lock the door? That darn old alley cat, maisky, has somehow snuck back in! biggrin.gif


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Well Mac, It looks like those magic pills didn't work. Think we could get our money back?


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Posted: 05-Mar-2006, 12:54 PM
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If I had my way George W and all his cronies would be facing an international tribunal, charged with deliberate, and negligent homicide, because of lying us into a war, and trying to lie his way out caring for the people in New Orleans. To call George Bush pathological would be an under statement!


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QUOTE (John Clements @ 05-Mar-2006, 12:54 PM)
If I had my way George W and all his cronies would be facing an international tribunal, charged with deliberate, and negligent homicide, because of lying us into a war, and trying to lie his way out caring for the people in New Orleans. To call George Bush pathological would be an under statement!

Brother maisky,

Have you meet John Clements yet? I think he may have somehow gotten to the left of you (not sure how that is possible, but he did biggrin.gif ).
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QUOTE (John Clements @ 05-Mar-2006, 11:54 AM)
If I had my way George W and all his cronies would be facing an international tribunal, charged with deliberate, and negligent homicide, because of lying us into a war, and trying to lie his way out caring for the people in New Orleans. To call George Bush pathological would be an under statement!

Hey!! I'm the left wing rational person here. You must be after my job!
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QUOTE (John Clements @ 05-Mar-2006, 12:54 PM)
If I had my way George W and all his cronies would be facing an international tribunal, charged with deliberate, and negligent homicide, because of lying us into a war, and trying to lie his way out caring for the people in New Orleans. To call George Bush pathological would be an under statement!

This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, and as of yet no one has been able to offer a rational counter-argument to the following quotes as they pertain to the "Bush lies." ......................

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"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
    Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
    Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.


You may, if you wish, resurrect this discussion from a previous thread by clicking here. I really don't think you have the ability to convince anyone that "Bush lied" as long as you take an honest look at all the facts, and not simply spin your way through it. If it is hate alone that makes you continue to babble about the "lies", then I can understand that. I have seen it time an again on this very forum by otherwise intelligent folks. It's sad, yes, but desperation always is.


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Personally I'm sick of the government in general lying to me. I don't trust Bush, I don't trust Clinton, I don't trust any of them. However, as the current leader of our country and of our armed forces, I place the majority of the blame on Bush and his administration. I don't trust the current administration, and Bush's presidency has erroded my belief and trust in the US government.


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QUOTE (CelticCoalition @ 07-Mar-2006, 09:03 PM)
Personally I'm sick of the government in general lying to me. I don't trust Bush, I don't trust Clinton, I don't trust any of them. However, as the current leader of our country and of our armed forces, I place the majority of the blame on Bush and his administration. I don't trust the current administration, and Bush's presidency has erroded my belief and trust in the US government.

biggrin.gif Welome to the club brother. I haven't trusted government since.............er...............um, I don't remember ever trusting government.
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QUOTE (SCShamrock @ 08-Mar-2006, 09:04 AM)
biggrin.gif Welome to the club brother. I haven't trusted government since.............er...............um, I don't remember ever trusting government.

As I recall from my own study of US history, that is precisely why the Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution states:
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QUOTE (Mailagnas maqqas Dunaidonas @ 08-Mar-2006, 11:08 AM)
As I recall from my own study of US history, that is precisely why the Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution states:

Of course you realize that with that document also came the ammendment process, so that powers of federal government can permeate each corner of the country.
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Hi maisky, believe me I’m not out to take your left wing job, but I would be happy to stand shoulder to shoulder with you.

Remember, “Stand up, stand up. Stand up for your rights. Stand up, stand up, don’t give up the fight.”
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QUOTE (John Clements @ 16-Mar-2006, 08:15 AM)
Hi maisky, believe me I’m not out to take your left wing job, but I would be happy to stand shoulder to shoulder with you.

Remember, “Stand up, stand up. Stand up for your rights. Stand up, stand up, don’t give up the fight.”

In this forum, "back to back" is a more appropriate position. biggrin.gif

You are most welcome. It is nice to make your acquaintence.
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