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What do you think about Freedom of Alba ?
Alba has to be Free [ 27 ]  [81.82%]
Alba has to stay under English rule [ 1 ]  [3.03%]
No Idea [ 5 ]  [15.15%]
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Posted on 05-Nov-2005, 02:51 PM
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Posted on 05-Nov-2005, 05:18 PM
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Personally, I'm a fan of the idea of a independant Scotland. My personal opinin is that the best scenerio between Scotland and England would be something similar to between the US and England. Independant, allied nations. I say the same for Northern Ireland.

However, that is just this American's opinion, and based on some conversatons I've had with those more directly affected by this issue, I'm getting an impression that the general mindset might be considerably different.


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Posted on 05-Nov-2005, 08:40 PM
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Why does Scotland want to throw England and Wales out of the United Kingdom (a kingdom created by the Scottish Royal Stewart Clan)?


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I have to agree with Aaediwen on this. Although the "ancestral homeland" has a bloody and negative history with England (bear in mind that the UK parlaiment is in England) for many centuries, recent events have been different.
Those of us who are of Scot descent are not living there for one main reason: our ancestors who opposed English rule and policies left Scotland. Whether it was their choice or by force may vary, but the bottom line is that we don't live there. I for one would love to see a free Scotland, a Scotland that once again has a separate national identity- something seriously lacking for many centuries. However, I'm not casting a vote on this topic- I don't see the choice of "let the citizens vote" listed.
The SNP has been gaining support and membership- I think it's only a matter of time until the choice for separation is made.

As for MacEoghainn, The Stuarts were not in power when the Act of Union went into effect in 1707. Prior to that time they may have shared a monarch, but were two separate countries. Considering 'The Fifteen' and 'The Forty-Five' Scottish preference seemed to have lain with the Stuarts.


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Posted on 06-Nov-2005, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE (subhuman @ 06-Nov-2005, 09:29 AM)
As for MacEoghainn, The Stuarts were not in power when the Act of Union went into effect in 1707.  Prior to that time they may have shared a monarch, but were two separate countries.  Considering 'The Fifteen' and 'The Forty-Five' Scottish preference seemed to have lain with the Stuarts.

Since this topic has turned decidedly political (Not sure if Turkceltic meant it to be a political discussion) I've started a thread in Politics Live of the same title (and a revised poll).

My response to subhuman resides there.

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  Posted on 06-Nov-2005, 03:00 PM
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Actually ,i thought about this and decided to open it in here cos although the topic includes politics , thats about scotland and specifically about scottish people thats why i put it in here .But it realy doesnt mind wherever it is 4 me ...

About style of independency , as u know " the freedom don't given ,its taken " And people of Scotland will take it from England who hold the sovereignty. thats not going to be with peace and democracy - England never want a free scotland near of him.First thats realy dangerous situation from strategly ,second that'll be example for other nations and GB can collapse after all. Be sure, if there will be an referandum for Freedom, definitely wont be fairy ! So fight will be the only solution ! -
At last ,if scotland can be free , UK 'll be its biggest rival!
Maybe Ireland and Scotland going to establish a ConFederation (as like first formation of USA ,and feature it turns to Celtic Federation ,thats better solution i think. thumbs_up.gif
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Posted on 07-Nov-2005, 03:45 PM
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and actually the topic is do u want to see free scotland or not ,but it turned to how can scotland be free or whats the ways ... anyways sadwalk.gif
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Posted on 07-Nov-2005, 06:40 PM
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Don't feel bad. Sure, it was a bit poorly worded if that was the intent. But most threads here tend to drift smile.gif
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I'd like to see a free Alba - Tha mi ag iaraidh an Alba saoirse! I am planning on moving to Scotland and become a citizenship of Alba is way cooler than become a citizenship of Great Britain!



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Im first generation scot but i live in Australia i think that all of the celtic nations need each other and England they may not like it because England has control over them
but over time if the people vote for the S.N.P. and scottish resistance groupes then it will happen.

one other thing why doesnt Alba just drop out of the commonwealth like Fiji and south africa did and then go from there.

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QUOTE (givo @ 03-Jun-2006, 08:02 PM)
Im first generation scot but i live in Australia i think that all of the celtic nations need each other and England they may not like it because England has control over them
but over time if the people vote for the S.N.P. and scottish resistance groupes then it will happen.

one other thing why doesnt Alba just drop out of the commonwealth like Fiji and south africa did and then go from there.

slainte. ALBA GU BRATH

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you are completely ignorant of scottish economics and politics, scotland has a higher gorss domestic output than england and can easily sustain itself if it was to gain independance.

according to government documents exposed to the public by the freedom of information act this has been well known throught out conservative and labour government's for decades.

your lack of knowledge regarding scottish affairs convinces me you are not infact scottish for a scotsman to say such degenerative rubbish like you have is the same as having his spine surgically removed.
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Why does remaining part of Britain mean losing our freedom?
I don't want Wales or Scotland to be independent (sorry), but I'd like us to have more control. I don't see why being part of the United Kingdom means subjugation by London.

And I do also agree that the Celtic Nations need each other - we need to support each other. The Welsh are as ignorant of other Celtic cultures as are the other Celts. Many people to whom I speak here are even unaware of the Breton and Cornish Languages - the very sister languages of Welsh!


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cornish independance as well as welsh holds no kind of interest for me, I support an independant and republic scotland.

Information regarding scotlands economic attributes to britain have shown the sheer volume of revenue from north sea oil , gas and major energy and water supplied abroad and to england have been hidden from the scots.

The shows the current union with england has caused scotland inward economic revenues to suffer resulting in a weaker scotland.

But lets not put this down to money, by annexing the rouge unified state that is britain, i belive a scottish identity will flourish especially as i personally would like to see scotland remain in the european union.

we cannot make these decisions ourselves regarding englands westminister and the control it has over legislative diplomocy concerning the scottish and european parliments.

we can only make our own decisions and allow our scottish economy and identity to flourish if we cut off the dead leg that is england.

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Hello -- just want to post this link to an article in today's Scotsman, "Independence Inside UK 'Is Possible' ", and then a long discussion section of postings by readers.

http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1003252006
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