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Posted: 20-Jun-2008, 10:01 AM
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On page two of this topic he admits to have been accepted into the seminary and to have left same. What we have seen here would not be welcome in the Catholic church today. I have run across this degree of radicialism in another religion and do not care for it in either one.

I sure was wrong, I figured this topic would die.

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Posted: 20-Jun-2008, 10:28 AM
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Martin Luther had it right in 1518. I think the Pope needs to revisit Martin Luther's complaint with The Catholic Church.
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QUOTE (coastman @ 20-Jun-2008, 04:28 AM)
Martin Luther had it right in 1518. I think the Pope needs to revisit Martin Luther's complaint with The Catholic Church.

The Catholic church today is not the church of my youth and it is so far from the church of the 1500's as to be unrecognizable. It was evil at many points in its history, most recently when it helped smuggle Nazi war criminals out of Germany. I suspect today it may be helping smuggle "illegal aliens" into the country. but then H-ll our government is doing that too. That may be where I part with the Catholic church.

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QUOTE (stoirmeil @ 19-Jun-2008, 11:39 PM)

We live and let live in the matter of our wide range of convictions, and in fact the diversity is one of our founding strengths. I don't know how to put it plainer than that for you.

You have, apparently deliberately, misaddressed two of our members now in a manner which is hard to interpret in any other way than insulting, and not as subtly clever as you seem to think, either. In my estimation you have pretty much blown it in terms of settling yourself here for a friendly, genuine discussion, and now you are seeking any kind of attention you can get, probably in lieu of nothing at all. If you do honestly value your convictions and the opportunity to share them, you might consider adjusting your interpersonal skills before you get much older.

If you truly do practice your fabled live and let live policy then you will have no problem with my beliefs whatsoever and will make no effort to censor or correct me otherwise you will contradict your own professed belief of live and let live. Let me live as well if you please!
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QUOTE (Camac @ 20-Jun-2008, 07:32 AM)
I have been reading the Epistles spouted by royal who ever the hell he is. Sounds like a chap I once knew by the name of "Torquemada". As to insulting the good people of this forum; "Take care, people have been known to choke on them"



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Carmac, I see Saint Patrick somehow missed your family in his tour of Ireland, perhaps you were hiding in the woods somewhere?
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QUOTE (royalosiodhachain @ 20-Jun-2008, 03:19 PM)
QUOTE (Camac @ 20-Jun-2008, 07:32 AM)
I have been reading the Epistles spouted by royal who ever the hell he is. Sounds like a chap I once knew by the name of "Torquemada". As to insulting the good people of this forum; "Take care, people have been known to choke on them"



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Carmac, I see Saint Patrick somehow missed your family in his tour of Ireland, perhaps you were hiding in the woods somewhere?

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QUOTE (royalosiodhachain @ 20-Jun-2008, 03:16 PM)
If you truly do practice your fabled live and let live policy then you will have no problem with my beliefs whatsoever and will make no effort to censor or correct me otherwise you will contradict your own professed belief of live and let live. Let me live as well if you please!

Your beliefs are your own, and no one here is interested in arguing you out of them. Your intrusive insistence on disseminating your message is a behavior that violates "live and let live," which is necessarily a reciprocal understanding based on mutual restraint.
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I see no alternative but to lock this topic down for 48 hours.

Right now, by watch, it is 20 June 2008 at 21:31hrs GMT

See you all at 22 June 2008 at 21:31 GMT


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QUOTE (royalosiodhachain @ 19-Jun-2008, 05:48 AM)
So far you have not provided me nor anyone with any particular intelligence nor wisdom.

royalosiodhachain,

You have violated the TOS by insulting another member. Don't worry though, we accept payment for a TOS violation by check, moneyorder and cash.

Can you email us your addresss so we can send you an invoice.

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Seriously, I think you have thrown a number of direct and indirect insults at a number of highly regarded members here and owe them an apology. We were willing to debate this issue in a civil manner and explore the doctrine you spoke about, but you really inflamed this thread. Its too bad if you had taken a different approach it might have lead to some interesting conversation.

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My apologies for my tardiness, but this topic is now open.
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Oh my, religion and politic can sure raise some dander. But there are too many nice people here and none of them should be insulted in any way. I have exchanged point of view with many here but never would I be mean to them. JC, Stoirmeil and every one else can I say BACK TO THE KITCHEN to this person?

My husband is a Catholic and so are many dear friend and I have never heard such come from their mouths. I think that Jesus would have a lot to say about what has been written here. Works without the love of God in your heart is nothing. If you don't have love for your fellow man then you have nothing. Traditions and rituals are man made. I would like to see some documentation where God appointed one religious organization or one man to set judgement over me, because I have read the bible several time and only have found that God will be my judge.

Can we lighten up now?
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I am willing to discuss my religion though I am not the most knowledgable by my own admission. I can not accept that kind of hate and radicalism in any religion. I am referring to royalosiodhachain's comments.

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To royalosiodhachain,

How about now, do you think you are being overzealous and perhaps superficial now?
I believe you have successfully lead us away from a relevant discussion of the Decree on Ecumenism.

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QUOTE (UlsterScotNutt @ 23-Jun-2008, 10:08 AM)
To royalosiodhachain,

How about now, do you think you are being overzealous and perhaps superficial now?
I believe you have successfully lead us away from a relevant discussion of the Decree on Ecumenism.

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Good on ya Mate.

There is one other inaccuracy from Royal who ever that I would like to correct . I am Scots (born there) not Irish and if I was hiding from anyone (which I more than likely was) it would have been Columba and his boys not Paddy.



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