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Posted by: Nova Scotian 26-Jan-2006, 11:07 AM |
I think all the Maritime Provinces, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland, should be considered the 8th Celtic nation. Just because all the cultures there, the Scotts, the Welsh, the Irish, the Bretons, and the Acadians all come from one of the 7 nations. |
Posted by: Nova Scotian 26-Jan-2006, 03:32 PM |
One of each Celtic nations is what I ment. |
Posted by: oldraven 13-Feb-2006, 12:28 PM |
Would it be, though? No Celt actually stepped foot on American soil (that we know of). We are descendants of the Celts, but not Celts ourselves. |
Posted by: Nova Scotian 14-Feb-2006, 06:27 AM | ||
Well yes. You're right however it seems that the maritimes have held onto the Celtic pride more so then anywhere else. One example is the Gaelic college at St. Anns in Cape Breton. It's the only place in the Western Hemisphere that teaches the language. I could name more but being an old Scotian yourself I'm sure you know. Actually I know a guy who's a fellow bagpiper, who use to pipe for FDNY, who actually thought the Maritimes were the 8th nation when I mentioned the idea to him. |
Posted by: oldraven 14-Feb-2006, 04:31 PM |
Some sort of recognition as an off site haven for celtic culture would be nice. But to call it the 8th Celtic Nation would diminish the meaning of the seven true nations. It's like calling myself Scottish, when I've never been to Scotland, let alone come from there. I don't, because that diminishes the meaning of a true Scot making the same claim. I'm a Canadian. A New Scot, perhaps. See what I mean? I do understand where you're coming from, though. The truth is, the Maritimes are (were) Mi'Kmaq and Maliseet nations. |
Posted by: Nova Scotian 14-Feb-2006, 07:25 PM | ||
Funny you mention the Mi'Kmaq, did you know that down here in Florida we have an organization called the New World Celts. I'm not a member but my Pipe major is. They honor the American Indians as Celts since a lot of them intermarried with true Celts. Check it out at www.newworldcelts.org. It's interesting. so how about "The New Nation" instead of the "8th nation. |
Posted by: oldraven 15-Feb-2006, 09:37 AM | ||
That I would go for. |
Posted by: sisterknight 26-Feb-2006, 07:30 PM |
have you ever been to p.e.i.?they've got a pipers college in summerside now there is another place that's got that celt history....and what about cape breton,holy man but they can boast scots roots not just being a new scot/canadian |
Posted by: Nova Scotian 28-Feb-2006, 08:33 AM | ||
I've been to both places. Love them both. I spend a few weeks every summer in Nova Scotia |
Posted by: sisterknight 28-Feb-2006, 08:57 AM |
that's not all that far from where i spend my extra time...new brunswick!!!(my 2nd home) |
Posted by: oldraven 01-Mar-2006, 12:24 PM |
Substitute Cape Breton with the Nova Scotian Highlands, as the Eastern mainland is very rich in in Celtic culture. The Scots actually landed in Pictou County, which is a good ways West on the North Shore. It is believed the first Europeans to set up camp in Cape Breton were, hold onto your hats , the Bretons, who may have been fishing in the area even before Cabot made his first attempt at mapping the Southeastern coast of the island. |
Posted by: Nova Scotian 01-Mar-2006, 01:48 PM | ||
Actually, you are right about the Bretons. They are ancestors of the Cajuns in Louisanna, which I'm quite certain you all ready knew. I've been to some of the Acadian festivals and they are out and out Celtic in style. In all of the Maritimes, I think Cape Breton probably stands out the most as the "New Celtic Nation". Pictou and all of the North Nova Scotia shore is very Scotish. I'd say just about everyone I've met from there is either Irish or Scott. A fellow firefighter and friend of mine my down here in the realm of Florida grew up in New Glascow. Hey, before I forget, get the newest issue of National Geograph. There's an excellent article on the Celtic Nations. |
Posted by: oldraven 01-Mar-2006, 04:41 PM | ||
You are right on every single account, except for one. The Bretons were not the Acadians (Cajuns are descended from Acadians, not Acadians themselves). They were the (next to expatriated) French. And I say expatriated, because they were first and foremost Acadians. Their allegance changed every decade, or less, from French to English (so say the Govs of the time, less the people themselves). Although the Bretons were fishing in Cape Breton, as well as the Canso area, they never really made any permanent settlments. And thanks for the NG tip. Slainte |
Posted by: 0Ash0Tree0 09-Feb-2008, 02:23 PM | ||
I was born in Canada but consider myself a Celt and NOT a Canadian. The First Nations are Canadian the rest of us are just displaced. And being decended from Celts makes you a Celt. |
Posted by: oldraven 11-Feb-2008, 07:20 AM | ||
Good point. It all remains a matter of perception, though. I personally never pretend to be a Scott, or an Englishman, since I've never been to either of these homelands. I was born here and have never had any other home, so I'm pure Canadian. My lineage is a different story, as are my influences. I'm glad to see you getting involved so early on. Keep on posting, please. |
Posted by: Camac 11-Feb-2008, 09:01 AM |
11/02/08 I was born in Scotland but was brought to Canada over sixty years ago when my mother, a widow, married a Canadian. Landed in Halifax 7 Oct. 1947. By blood I'm a Scot but by culture, education, and language I'm more Canadian. I am beyond a doubt proud of my Scots heritage and in many respects I am torn between the love of both. The mortar that helps keep my perspective is I'm a Celt as my forfathers were. I consider myself bless by the Fates to have been raised in what I and a great many, many others consider the best place on Earth. Camac. |
Posted by: b4u2 02-Jun-2008, 02:28 AM | ||
I'm by blood a Celt or as near as you can get. Morison from Lewis Island outer Hebrides. Long story their but to sum it up.. Did not know my father who was born in Scotland. I was born in Canada and have lived in Ont, Sask, Ab, Nfld, and NS. Moving to Nova Scotia felt like coming home. I just fit in there... I had lived there for 3 years when I found out I was born a Morison. But I'm getting side tracked. I am a first generation Canadian. My heritage is Scottish. My native friends are Canadian with a First Nations heritage. Lewis island is one of the last places where Gaelic is still spoken commonly but they are Scottish not Celtic. Folks from Italy are Italian not Roman. Folks from the Norway are Norwegian not Norse. I agree having Celtic blood makes you a Celtic.... I have totally lost my train of thought |
Posted by: b4u2 02-Jun-2008, 02:39 AM |
The last post came off very pretentious. I did not intend it to be. Really tired... |
Posted by: Nova Scotian 09-Jul-2008, 07:25 PM | ||
My great grandfather was from Guysborough NS. His family was Scottish as well as my great great gram. I also have Welsh in me going back 6 generations and going back even further, I've Breton. All that with English and Swedish married to an Arab. I take pride playing my pipes and I'm always inspired when I'm down home in Nova Scotia for the summer. It really brings out the Celt in me. |
Posted by: oldraven 15-Jul-2008, 12:20 PM | ||
What part of Nova Scotia do you live in, b4u2? I'm in Guysborough Co., about dead centre between Antigonish and Guysborough (town). It's always good to have another local around. |