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Posted: 02-Nov-2004, 06:59 PM
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I found this article a few days ago, but didn't decide to post it until today.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/196371...spookban22.html

Above is a link to the site I found this information at.

One town in WV has banned halloween, because it is disrepesctful to practicing witches, or the followers of wicca near their town.

I was just wondering everyone's take on this..
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Posted: 02-Nov-2004, 10:50 PM
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umm, just a slight correction , the town was in Washington State. I'm not sure how I feel about this. it is ummmmm, Interesting
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Posted: 02-Nov-2004, 11:22 PM
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Yeah, my archery master was telling me about that last week. I just...don't get it. I'm really curious to see who was the genius that thought *that* was a good idea.

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Posted: 02-Nov-2004, 11:41 PM
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Couldn't agree more! What a shame. Halloween is such a great time for kids (both big and little wink.gif ).


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Posted: 03-Nov-2004, 08:41 AM
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When you get down to it, it's more likely about money than about offending anyone. Police overtime, possible vandalism, etc. They just used the Wiccans as a fast excuse.


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Posted: 03-Nov-2004, 02:11 PM
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Heh...yeah. Let's see them get rid of *their* New Year's that easily.
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Posted: 03-Nov-2004, 02:26 PM
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Actually, this topic was discussed in "the Grove" forum once already. It seems... contradictory?... that witches should find this holiday offensive, but I don't claim to know much about their beliefs, so that's just me. smile.gif


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I think this is the most probable reason for it.


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Posted: 03-Nov-2004, 10:42 PM
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Just a point of order (ok, I'm picky...)
The town didn't ban Halloween - they banned Halloween celebrations at the school.

It's been quite the talk in the local papers (I live near the town). Personally, I think it's much ado about nothing. There are more serious issues in our school systems than deciding whether or not to "observe" a tradition (I don't see it as a holiday) that is nothing more than an opportunity for kids to use their imaginations and shameless promotion by Hersheys, et. al.
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Posted: 04-Nov-2004, 08:02 AM
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Well, I am trying to see the town's side of this. A lot of towns have huge problems with vandalism around Halloween. This usually stems from the high school and middle school age children. Also, the school may have had a lot of pressure from parents to ban it. Since schools are locally run, they have the right to do that. Many schools have at least one or two parents who do not want their children involved in the Halloween festivities. Perhaps this schools had a majority instead.


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Posted: 04-Nov-2004, 05:02 PM
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True alot of vanadism has been spotted up around Halloween...but than make it so the little kids have to suffer? I think not! Wiccans have been pursecuited since they decided to come from the closet, some Catholics (not just catholics) would get any chance to persuet a bad deal with Wiccans.

Halloween is a major religious part in wiccan...tis a shame. mad1.gif


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Posted: 04-Nov-2004, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE (dragonboy3611 @ 04-Nov-2004, 07:02 PM)
True alot of vanadism has been spotted up around Halloween...but than make it so the little kids have to suffer? I think not! Wiccans have been pursecuited since they decided to come from the closet, some Catholics (not just catholics) would get any chance to persuet a bad deal with Wiccans.

Halloween is a major religious part in wiccan...tis a shame. mad1.gif

No...I wouldn't say this is a Catholic thing. Actually, when it comes to this kind of stuff, Catholics are more tolerant than most other Protestant chuches. I'm Catholic, and I've never seen the church so much as even try to discourage anyone from doing Halloween stuff. They don't even see a problem with the Harry Potter books. They don't claim that kids who read it are going to want to become witches and wizards. They look at it as harmless entertainment and nothing more. Last year, the flyers for our school's book fair were of Harry Potter...and this is a Catholic School! So please don't peg this on Catholics. dry.gif


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Posted: 05-Nov-2004, 07:27 AM
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The most intolerant of the bunch are the born again evangelicals, the so-called fundamentalists. The more radical of them are not only intolerant but are downright dangerous and see nothing wrong with killing those who disagree with them.
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I have worked in Catholic and public schools for five years. Coming from first hand experience (not assumptions, which starts unneeded discord), the Catholic schools have Halloween participation from everyone. I have never heard one classroom or one parent ever complain.
However, when I worked in a rural public school (many Protestants), some parents in the elementary did not want their children involved in the Halloween. They were very adament and put the teacher in a difficult position.
Unless you have a specific example of Catholics doing something like this, I would avoid the generalization.

I would also like to remind the readers that Catholic were persecuted heavily in the United States for decades. When the Irish Catholics came over during the potato famine, the persecution continued into the twentieth century (and today with the KKK). Catholics were not allowed to buy homes in areas, job postings would list "no Irish" or "No Catholics". The victim card plays for more than one group.
I don't think keeping something away from a child is a proper defintion of suffering.
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QUOTE (bubba @ 05-Nov-2004, 09:27 AM)
The most intolerant of the bunch are the born again evangelicals, the so-called fundamentalists. The more radical of them are not only intolerant but are downright dangerous and see nothing wrong with killing those who disagree with them.

I would consider that a loaded, offensive statement and I would hope that is what we at this website try and avoid. If we could try as much as possible not to make generalized statements, then it will benefit all of us. I would never, ever say such things about you or your beliefs, and I am sorry you felt the need to say them about mine.

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Posted: 05-Nov-2004, 10:54 AM
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The problem is hatred, bigotry and mistrust. All of these stem from ignorance and a self-righteous attitude that "I'm right and everyone else is wrong". No one group has a corner on this. It is an attitude that can creep in anywhere. We are taught not to judge and to love our neighbors. This means everyone. If judgement is needed, God will take care of that in His own time. In the mean time, we should accept and love everyone. That doesn't mean we have to agree, but it does mean we shouldn't condemn or hate.


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