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DesertRose 
Posted: 10-Mar-2004, 02:45 AM
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I watch BBC America and love Scottish TV series such as "Monarch of the Glen" and "Hamish MacBeth." Just wondering if others watch tv shows from Scotland and what their favorite programs are


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Posted: 10-Mar-2004, 04:04 AM
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I loved Hamish MacB - not so keen on MotG - but the scenery at Adverikie Estate is just about compensation for the poor storylines!!!! cool.gif

I also like Hamish Clarke who plays (I think) Duncan. He was in a really great series a few years back called Taking Over the Asylum... if you ever get a chance to see that, I can highly recommend it.

There was a recent series called Rockfall or Rockface (can't remember, my memory for things like actors' names and series titles is really POOR!). It was dreadful - but again, the scenery was great. It was about a mountain rescue team.

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Posted: 10-Mar-2004, 04:31 AM
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Oh thank you, thank you! Cat! I was so hoping to hear from you!

Now Hamish Clark is wonderful. I just love him! well I am mad for MOTG. I watch it faithfully every day and even have in my possession Series 1 DVD and gettng for my birthday next month Series 2............silly me! rolleyes.gif Doesn't take much to please me. laugh.gif I love the characters as well as the scenery!

Now Hamish MacBeth! Isn't that a wonderful show? I love his Westie doggie too..........makes me want one! biggrin.gif Now for some reason BBC took it off the air here..............boo hoo! I really loved that show a lot! Love Robert Carylyle in anything he does anyway! He is such an under-rated actor! Makes me mad!

Any other shows you recommend me watching on BBC America? I have been watching Jonathan Creek lately............interesting. Just watched a few shows. Not sure what I think of it yet.

do you have other Scottish TV series beside MOTG and Hamish MacBeth or is everything from England? Just curious. Sorry if I am being ignorant here,but really don't know. unsure.gif

BTW, if I may be off topic here........a friend of mine saw Trainspotting and highly recommened I see it. I had no idea that it was a movie.lol Shows you how ignorant I am! rolleyes.gif
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Trainspotting is a great movie, but you may not want to watch it with children ))) I will not tell you what is about, but it is pretty intense...
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We have a number of home grown series, but in the main the output of BBC is from London - often with Scottish actors! We are a small island, and lots of Scottish actors still live in Scotland but travel down to the studios which are based in and around London when they are filming.

Trainspotting is a brilliant film (although I didn't like it, personally!) - but not for the fainthearted. It certainly dispels the Brigadoonery-type myths about Scotland and, in particular, Edinburgh. We have our very own ghetto areas..... biggrin.gif Most tourists stay on the well-worn tourist trail in Edinburgh and would therefore never glimpse the underbelly!

Have you read any Irvine Welsh books? He writes in a kind of Lallans...! Some people find him very difficult to understand - and they are resident Scots!!!!

Here's a review on Trainspotting from www.all-reviews.com/videos

Review by Steve Rhodes


The cardinal rule for making a reviewer's life easier is to give high marks to everything you see. You especially want to praise popular movies, and most of all you want to save your highest rating for cult pictures with strong and vociferous followings. Nothing like grade inflation and ignoring your instincts for making your own life more bearable. I consistently ignore this rule. I am generally in the mainstream of reviewers, but when I can not stomach a show as I couldn't in TRAINSPOTTING I say so knowing full well I will get complaints. Less than full honesty isn't fair to my readers.

TRAINSPOTTING was a smashing success last year in Britain and made buckets of money. Its coming to America has been perhaps the cinematic art house event of the year.

TRAINSPOTTING is a far, far out comedy about a group of young heroin addicts in Scotland. Set in Edinburgh, this extremely explicit depiction of the heroin drug culture focuses on Mark Renton and his battle with heroin. He loves shooting up, but does on occasion try to give it up. Mark is played by Ewan McGregor who was Frank Churchill in EMMA and Alex Law in SHALLOW GRAVE, which is director Danny Boyle's only other film. For my money, SHALLOW GRAVE, flaws and all, is a much better film than TRAINSPOTTING.

Mainly TRAINSPOTTING focuses on the camaraderie of the druggies and of their humor. The ongoing joke has them trying just hard enough to get a job so they don't get kicked off the dole, but being sure that they are so repulsive that no one will actually hire them.

The dialog by John Hodge and based on Irvine Walsh's novel has many funny lines. If the images were not so horrible, perhaps I could have enjoyed them. As Mark Renton puts it, "Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a starter home. Choose dental insurance, leisure wear and matching luggage. Choose your future. But why would anyone want to do a thing like that?"

Most of the humor is visual with a subtext of isn't addition fun and funny at the same time. This makes for a hard to watch film, which isn't necessarily bad. I enjoyed HAROLD AND MAUDE about suicide and a lot of other films with shocking subjects, but in TRAINSPOTTING the filmmakers are so far over the line, that I could not like the picture no matter how hard I tried. I kept thinking to myself, what is next? Are we going to have a comedy full of realist images about how much fun it was to gas people in World War II?

Let me give you two typical scenes and then I will be done with this review. Mark's friend Spud (Ewen Bremmer) passes out and then ends up spending the night at his girlfriend's house. What with his going on and off of drugs, he has developed diarrhea. When he wakes up his sheets are full of feces. He takes his sheets into the dinning room where his girlfriend and her family are having breakfast. Her mother and he get in a tug of war over the sheets which ends with realistic feces going all over everyone and into the breakfast. The lingering camera makes sure you see in detail the feces dripping down each of their faces.

In another scene, Mark dives into a public toilet labeled, "the worst toilet in Scotland." He dives into the bowl to retrieve his lost suppositories. Never in your worst nightmare have you seen such a filthy place.

For completeness sake, let me say that the rest of the cast includes: Jonny Lee Miller as Sick Boy, Kevin McKidd as Tommy, Robert Carlyle as Begbie, Kelly MacDonald as Diane, and Peter Mullan as Swanney. Although some of the cast do not use heroin, most shot up regularly and feed their habit through a combination of taxpayer's money and stealing from people.

TRAINSPOTTING runs 1:33. It is rated R, but why it is not NC-17 is beyond me. In addition to the frequent heroin usage scenes, there is violence, constant foul language, sex, and full male and female frontal nudity. Since the MPAA gave this film an R, they might as well just retire the NC-17 rating. I strongly recommend that teenagers not see this film at all. For adults, I will grant you that the show is imaginative and the dialog sharp, but I can not recommend this painful show to anyone. For a show I truly hated, I still will give it * 1/2 for the high energy and the clever albeit unbearable script. As it is, I feel like I am being ridiculously generous to the film.

Copyright © 1996 Steve Rhodes

Shallow Grave is a great movie, also set in Edinburgh. Very 'black' humour.

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Whoa! I heard this film was shocking! Had no idea just how much! Thanks for the review, Cat! At least I can be better prepared when I rent it out.
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Posted: 10-Mar-2004, 04:45 PM
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C'mon Catriona, that was an appalling review you quoted, the guy couldn't even spell faeces!!. Trainspotting was one of the funniest yet challenging films I've seen since "Pulp Fiction".

By the way, on the subject of the best in Scottish Television Rab C Nesbitt beats all!


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I looked for an AMERICAN review of the fillum, Wynn! Wanted to give a non-native's perspective.... biggrin.gif I didn't think the film was anywhere near as good as the IW book....

Rab C is one of my faves.... he is SCUM, knows he's scum, but is proud to be GOVAN scum!!!! I loved 'Mary Doll'......

What about Chewing the Fat? Did you see that, or was it after your defection to la belle France?!!! cool.gif

CR - Rab C Nesbitt is a series starring Gregor Fisher in which he plays an unemployed, drunkard of a philospher from an area of Glasgow called Govan. Seriously funny, but the accents (and more importantly, the slang) might be hard to understand. It starred a number of good Scottish actors - none of which would be considered handsome enough to win a part in a Hollywood movie - but they CAN act!

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Welsh Guy! That is how we Americans spell feces. So I understood the review quite well! laugh.gif

Cat! Thank you. I will check out the new show and see if I can find it on BBC America! As far as having a hard time understanding anybody? Hey, I can't understand a word Lexie and Golly says on Monarch of the Glen and they probably speak BBC English to you! wink.gif laugh.gif

I still plan to try to find Trainspotting and rent that. Y'all got me really curious now! But then I loved Pulp Fiction! Thought it was one of the most hilarious films ever! I am a very sick person! biggrin.gif
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Look what I found about Trainspotting!

http://www.pg.ru/train/now.html
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Posted: 11-Mar-2004, 10:58 PM
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Rose biggrin.gif You should try and rent `A shallow Grave` as well, it`s made by the same team and is a very good movie too thumbs_up.gif
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Okay, I will look for it! We don't get that series here on BBC America! I may have to order it through a movie service such as Netflix. Thanks Elly!
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