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| Posted by: Patch 23-Aug-2009, 09:16 PM |
| The Tea Party Express bus is funded and on the move, headed to DC for a big Sept rally. The turn out has been great so far! I do not have an itinerary so watch for it in your community. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: stoirmeil 24-Aug-2009, 03:05 PM |
| http://www.teapartyexpress.org/tour/index.html Here is it, dear. Nothing very adventurous, but it looks sure-fire: California and out of town quick, a tentative blast in Phoenix while it's still legal, mosey east across the south preaching to the converted -- then go and whip up lots of starving Michiganders, as if that's any real favor to them, and one daring little hit and run windup in Washington. |
| Posted by: Patch 24-Aug-2009, 07:53 PM | ||
Our local group now has 16 who will be attending and the number is likely to grow. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: stoirmeil 24-Aug-2009, 08:05 PM |
| I notice you say "The Tea Party Express is funded". Who funds it? Are they passing the hat among the earnest participants and putting grassroot tea in the tank, or isn't this really powered out of some other kind of pocket? |
| Posted by: Patch 25-Aug-2009, 05:09 AM | ||||
Though the trip for the bus has now been funded by private donations if anyone wishes to support the idea, I will try to steer you to a group in your area. If enough from my area are interested, we will charter a tour bus. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: stoirmeil 25-Aug-2009, 10:30 PM |
| "Private donations" covers a multitude of possible donors. It's not an idle question, by the way -- the idea that the impetus for this mass movement is truly and spontaneously coming from the ground up is being put about, and it's very likely nothing of the kind. |
| Posted by: stevenpd 25-Aug-2009, 11:46 PM | ||
The Tea Party Express is sponsored by a conservative coalition of groups of which, Our Country Deserves Better PAC located in Sacramento, Calif is one. This PAC is the one that is receiving contributions for the tour. According to their web site, "The Our Country Deserves Better PAC is committed to defeating the candidates backed by Democrat Senate and House leaders, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, in the 2010 congressional elections. We will support conservative challengers in these election campaigns. We will then turn our focus to ensuring that Barack Obama is defeated should he chose to run for re-election in 2012." http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/about/issues.html According to the Federal Election Commission web site their FEC filing for 2008 indicates 884 individual donors. Each donating various amounts, from $200 to $5000, totaling $1,367,421. Occupations range from retirees and homemakers to CEO's from across the country. http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/?_08+C00454074 It would be safe to say that this group is a grass-root group. |
| Posted by: Patch 26-Aug-2009, 02:38 AM |
| I supported this trip though I doubt I will go to DC in Sept. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: englishmix 26-Aug-2009, 02:50 PM |
| We have 40 people already going to the DC rally in September from our area, and it is self-funded. The group doesn't even collect dues or anything. We pay our own way - don't need a government handout... |
| Posted by: Patch 26-Aug-2009, 03:10 PM |
| Same with our group. I think most are the same. This is a grass roots movement. I believe there will be some "private" help locally if one would like to go but could not due to their economic situation. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: stevenpd 26-Aug-2009, 08:27 PM |
| It will be interesting come September 12. |
| Posted by: stevenpd 29-Aug-2009, 08:59 PM |
| And they're off! |
| Posted by: stevenpd 30-Aug-2009, 11:36 AM |
| August 28,2009 - Sacramento, Calif. http://www.teapartyexpress.org/tour/index.html |
| Posted by: MacEoghainn 30-Aug-2009, 12:19 PM |
| More on the Water Problem in the Central Valley of California: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mwhGkiPfPzo&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mwhGkiPfPzo&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> |
| Posted by: englishmix 30-Aug-2009, 12:56 PM |
| By the way, my favorite tea is Biglow's Ceylon Breakfast tea. Its about time we turn the heat up and get these governing officials in the hot-water they well deserve to be in. |
| Posted by: stevenpd 30-Aug-2009, 04:55 PM | ||
I personally prefer Twining's Earl Grey. |
| Posted by: Patch 11-Sep-2009, 03:19 PM |
| Tomorrow is the day for Patriot/Founder's rallies and Tea Parties across the nation! We are expecting to fill the park tomorrow. There will be food vendors and quite an array of speakers. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Camac 11-Sep-2009, 06:35 PM |
| stevenpd; I my opinion there was only one Brand of Tea: TRUMPET; since it has been gone from the market (60's) I rarely if ever drink Tea. Camac. |
| Posted by: Patch 11-Sep-2009, 06:45 PM |
| I drink green tea, iced but only occasionally. From what I have heard on the radio, the local rally's are not likely to have a detrimental effect on the DC rally. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: MacEoghainn 12-Sep-2009, 05:22 PM |
| Crowd estimated at 1.2 (police) to 2 million people (ABC News) at the Washington Rally today. |
| Posted by: Antwn 12-Sep-2009, 05:54 PM | ||
Abcnews.com says 60,000 to 70,000 according to the DC metro fire department. Perhaps no one has an accurate figure. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tea-party-protesters-march-washington/Story?id=8557120&page=1 |
| Posted by: Patch 12-Sep-2009, 06:35 PM |
| I would tend to believe the police as they are experienced at those estimates in DC. I would expect them to under estimate a bit too. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Patch 12-Sep-2009, 06:38 PM |
| The local crowd was between 3500 and 4500 in a community of 24000. Take out the kids in the community and it is a fairly high percentage. Over 100 of our people went to DC also. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Patch 12-Sep-2009, 06:52 PM |
| At the Tea Parties I attended today, the talk in the crowds was about taxes and health care and opposed to both! Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: RebeccaAnn 12-Sep-2009, 07:33 PM |
| http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html Tea Party gave him a new title. 'Parasite-in-chief'" |
| Posted by: LibraryJim 12-Sep-2009, 08:48 PM |
| i attended the rally in Tally -- Tallahassee, Fl. It was pretty well attended, I estimate about 300, but I haven't seen the news yet, so I don't know if that was how many showed up. But I had a good time, the people were friendly, polite, and enthusiastic. And well behaved. |
| Posted by: englishmix 13-Sep-2009, 12:09 AM |
| Local follow-up Tea Party Rally in Evansville, IN this Tuesday at the Civic Center. I'll be there. Perhaps I should wear a kilt, and when the media comes by, why I'll say "Here is what I have to say to our leaders" and then moon 'em... |
| Posted by: Patch 13-Sep-2009, 02:47 AM |
| In watching the news last night, the DC rally appeared to be as big as or bigger than the "million man march." I am certain there will be counts taken from photographs and those used to determine an accurate count. I have done that type of photography before and it is easy to cut the crowd on a computer immage to put a complete panorama together and then count multiple known areas. Special tripods are made specificlly to do this. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: MacEoghainn 13-Sep-2009, 07:52 AM | ||
That # was a very early estimate as the crowd was forming for the march down Pennsyvannia Ave. Here's a timelapse of a traffic camera of that area. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_sjvc6baor8&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_sjvc6baor8&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> 60 to 70 thousand people my a$$! You lefties can continue to try and marginalize this movement, but it isn't going away no matter how much you wish. |
| Posted by: Patch 13-Sep-2009, 09:48 AM |
| It was reported in the print media that this was the biggest rally EVER organized in DC. It is a growing movement of people of all political persuasions who do not want obama's change. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Antwn 13-Sep-2009, 01:47 PM | ||
If you had bothered to actually read my post you would understand that the quoted estimate was off of the ABC news website, it wasn't something I pulled out of my "leftist" butt pal. I wasnt' trying to marginalize anything, but to show that the same source can report widely different estimates, which seems to indicate a completly untrustworthy source. That untrustworthy source isn't me but ABC news. Isn't that obvious if their estimates vary from 70,000 to 2 million? |
| Posted by: Patch 13-Sep-2009, 01:57 PM |
| Without regard to the actual number this has become a national movement the likes of which no one alive today has ever seen. It will continue to grow. I am not sure if obama dropped his socialist ideas and became a "conservative" that it would falter. The American people have seen what could happen and want safe guards to prevent this from ever happening again! Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: RebeccaAnn 13-Sep-2009, 02:25 PM |
| Are how many were there really important? The fact is there were many and it is growing. The crowds are as far as the eye can see and beyond. They are proving we do have a voice and we can fight and be heard without violence. Get enough people together and they have nothing to do but listen and hear us, the people they claim to represent. If we can keep it building we can have a great and mighty Revalution and take back our government. We are a government created "by the people and for the people. One nation under God." It is time for us to stand and teach our children and to fight back. |
| Posted by: MacEoghainn 13-Sep-2009, 02:55 PM | ||||
You seem to have combined parts of my post in ways I hadn't intended. The article you linked to was very specific in that the 60-70k # was the fire departments estimate for the march, not the rally on the mall. That # was being reported before the march even began at 9:00AM. FoxNews (you know, the evil rightwing News agency) still refuses to characterize the crowd with anything greater than "10s of thousands" despite the evidence of at least 100s of thousands of people participating. As for the leftist remark....If you're not a leftest then I apologize for even implying you are one. However if you are a leftist then the remark stands....pal! |
| Posted by: Patch 13-Sep-2009, 02:56 PM |
| Hear Hear!! Yes it is important to teach our children about our great country. However we as families must do it as our education system is not doing their job in that respect! In talking with my sister, a retired teacher, we have been negligent in education for probably 20 years and that in a conservative area. Slàinte, Patch |
| Posted by: Antwn 13-Sep-2009, 04:11 PM |
| Is CBS news considered a leftist liberal commie pig news outlet, or can we assume a modicum of credibility there? Here's an interesting article naming the sources of exaggerated figures given in the millions of attendees - what a surprise, one was Freedomworks, the sponsors themselves! Yes, the fire and emergency squads, an independent non-political organization which has nothing politically to gain by any estimate enhancements are untrustworthy. Sure they are...... They're not compelled to sensationalize like news organizations either, whose livelihoods are dependent on viewership. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/12/blogs/coopscorner/entry5306381.shtml |
| Posted by: Antwn 13-Sep-2009, 04:24 PM | ||||||
How the hell did I combine parts of your post in ways you hadn't intended when all of what I quoted from your post was in the same post? The latest link mentions estimates of attendees at the mall, as well as the exaggerated attendence estimates. Please tell me how a time lapsed film of people in Washington DC provides any authoritative proof of attendance numbers? How exactly did you determine how many people were in the film? Your attempt to agrandize this movement doesn't lend it greater credibility either nor is there any meaning in the phrase "you lefties" outside of the realm of your own obtuse subjectivity. |
| Posted by: MacEoghainn 13-Sep-2009, 05:11 PM | ||||||||
So I can assume from your last you consider yourself a leftist?  |
| Posted by: Antwn 13-Sep-2009, 05:58 PM | ||
Ah! A leading question. The left/right dichotomy is your paradigm sir. As for your assumptions, I think what you've assumed is evident. Now if accuracy of perception and clarity is your goal in asking the question, my suggestion is give up the paradigm entirely, though I suspect the suggestion will be met with deaf ears. Labels contribute little to understanding, but only limit and pigeonhole both people and perspectives. |
| Posted by: Patch 13-Sep-2009, 06:26 PM |
| Those in the Tea Party groups cover the entire political spectrum though it could be reasonably assumed that all are capitalists. Slàinte, Patch |