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Posted: 24-Aug-2008, 05:38 PM
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An article today states that people worried about the high cost of keeping warm this winter will draw little comfort from the Farmers' Almanac, which predicts below-average temperatures for most of the U.S.

Since I have lived in Florida all my life I am curious of the experiences others have had with cold weather.

Do you have local customs that predict the coming winter? How do you stay warm inside and outdoors? Is there really such a thing as "Cabin Fever"?

And if given the choice, would you still live where there is so much snow to deal with each day, ie.. driving to work, missing school days etc.?

What do you do for recreation during the winter?

As I say, I am most curious about everyday life with snow.

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Posted: 24-Aug-2008, 06:00 PM
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Well my dear flora,
I think I am The only one who likes "cold weather" here, so let me say that during the cold months I LIVE.

During winter times we have different kind of ways to heat the house.
Some have the use of electrical thermostats or water heating systems or furnace and plenty more ways.
We use the slow cumbustion wood stove 24/7 all winter we practically don't open the electrical thermostats.
As to get warm outside well naturally one must wear boots for shoes in a foot of snow won't do at all and one has to dress with coats and mits and a hats especially when there is a snow storm.
I think what you are referring to about "cabin fever" is I think what they call the "winter blues" and what it means is that people tends to have a change in their humor and deal with day to day chores because of lack of natural light.The sun.
And the choice for living where there is snow and driving to work and all...there is no doubts in my mind when I say I would never live anywhere where there is no winter.
As for the local customs goes and this I learned from my dad, one cuts a little branch from a tree about 12" long and fix it near the window facing south and when humidity is in the air the branch bends down. In other words it moves depending on the barometric pressure.

This picture was taken last winter at the pittoresque Mont Tremblant, Quebec.And the most popular sport in winter...skiing.


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Posted: 24-Aug-2008, 06:19 PM
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I love cold weather the colder the better. It's that white stuff that keeps falling from the sky I hate.



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Posted: 24-Aug-2008, 07:01 PM
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I too like our Winters here, it has it's own beauty. smile.gif It's the treacherous roads I get sick of...Anyhow, we have a programmable thermostat to a forced air furnace, we dress in layers; the saying goes, "Wait 5 minutes, the weather will change".... Sure enough. rolleyes.gif We don't have a Fireplace installed yet, but it shall be installed before the Winter of 2009 thumbs_up.gif
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Posted: 24-Aug-2008, 08:58 PM
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Thank you so much for sharing!

Lady of Avalon I am going to constantly refer back to that picture and remind myself that there really are places like that. Thank you so much.

Leelee, I wondered about driving in the snow every day. Where I have encountered snow, it either didn't stay on the ground that long or the transportation department cleared the roads quickly.

Camac, just how cold does it get in your area?

My husband and I do primitive camping in November in Tennessee and that is about as cold as I can tolerate outside 24/7. I have a wool sweater from Ireland that I wear and found that it really is better than heavier coats. Somewhere I read that moist wool is more insulating. Has anyone heard that?

I have been told that the more acorns and bigger size means a colder winter. And here in Florida, we have fuzzy black catapillars and the fuzzier, the colder.

I am a sucker for the old wood fireplaces, but I find it hard to stay hydrated in the winter with having heat in the house constantly.

Do you have to prepare your pantry and keep well stocked in case of a snow storm? And how long have they been know to last?
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Posted: 25-Aug-2008, 05:25 AM
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QUOTE (flora @ 24-Aug-2008, 10:58 PM)
Thank you so much for sharing!

Lady of Avalon I am going to constantly refer back to that picture and remind myself that there really are places like that.  Thank you so much.

Do you have to prepare your pantry and keep well stocked in case of a snow storm? And how long have they been know to last?

Hi flora, glad you like the picture.This really beautiful in the mountains in winter time the view is just fantastic.

As for preparing the pantry and such, no I would say that that kind of preparation for the winter months is practiced more in the north country,way up north like in the Bay James area and further north for in these places there are only small villages with usually there is what they call a general store.

Here we have major commercial and conveniance stores everywhere so we don't need to "keep well stocked" for the winter season. A snow storm here could last for 1 to 2 days depending last winter was really quite exceptionnal for we didn't this kind of weather for over 20 years and people would tell stories about the fact this was the kind of winter we use to have then.We were piled up in snow this winter it was wonderful and fun.

The picture that I'm showing to you is the day after a major snow storm we had last winter,like the ones we use to get 20 years ago. I have another that I posted in the thread "What's it like outside". Enjoy...

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Posted: 26-Aug-2008, 03:46 AM
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Back in the village, winter was the season I loved most. I loved getting up in the morning, opening the door and seeing snow piled against it higher than my head. Winters these days are so mild by comparison *chuckles*

In winter here, to economise on fuel, I make everyone wear more layers like we used to back in the "pre-central heating days" of the 60s and early 70s. We had a coal fire in the living room and that was the only room in the house that was heated in winter - goodness, I'm sounding like the old man I am now! Hahaha.

My own grown up children ( two of them still live with us because of the high costs of having your own home) are told "Don't put the heating on when you're only wearing a t-shirt!" quite often. They are too used to modern conveniences and (since they don't pay the bills here) have no idea about fuel costs yet.

We're stocking up on jumpers for this winter, I may even get my knitting machine out for the first time in 10 years and knock up some nice fairisle 'sweaters' as I believe they call them in America.

Anything that keeps me warm gets my vote!


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Posted: 26-Aug-2008, 01:19 PM
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I'm in New York now, which is middling-cool most of the winter but not really much below freezing, and then the occasional cold snap with nights in the teens Fahrenheit. I grew up in southern New England, and 40 years ago it was cold in winter, many nights well below freezing, never much above 32F in the daytime, ands most of the time not above freezing then either. The pond at the end of my street was always fit for skating by Christmas, that is, ice 4" to 6" thick. I have to say I miss it. We always wore sweaters ("jumpers") and fleece sweatshirts in the house; the sleeping at night when it's cold out, with the window cracked just a bit for the fresh air unless it's truly frigid, is the best in the world. I loved shovelling snow too, my dad's 100 foot driveway. The exercise wasn't bad, but what I loved was the solitude, because I was the only one who would volunteer, and the soft hushing noise of new snow falling was very tranquil. About shovelling and snowstorms -- don't wait until the whole load falls. Do it several times, about every 6" or so -- then you can come in for a well justified hot toddy between bouts.

You do have to hydrate the air or you get lot of nosebleeds and coughing -- I remember we had steam radiators with pans of water on them that would be bone dry before morning. A big lobster-boiling pot full of water on the back of the stove constantly on low simmer helps a lot during the day -- we used to throw several spoons of cinnamon in it when there was nothing else cooking. My brother would get bronchitis too, and so we vaporized with tincture of benzoin. It is one of the most powerful memory smells of my childhood.

I've been through blizzards that lasted a day and a night without stopping, then took 2 to 3 days to really dig out and get moving. Everybody remembers thre blizzard of '78 -- we had 48" of snow on the flat, with some 7-foot drifts, and a bit north of us went to 54". I was in a small community of young musicians employed around a big church then, and after we all got in safe it was the most fun I've ever had. We shovelled all day, ate spaghetti like pigs and went out and shovelled some more. There was a man on the side street with a heart condition who was afraid they couldn't get an ambulance in to him if he needed it, so we shovelled out the whole street to the main avenue. I must have baked about 20 dozen cookies -- after we couldn't get out to buy more chocolate chips we just chopped up Hershey bars from the big bucket of leftover Halloween candy to put in them. What a mess! smile.gif
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Posted: 29-Aug-2008, 05:07 PM
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I wanted to thank everyone that has shared their experiences with me.

LOA, it still blows my mind how they can move that much snow to clear the roads so quickly.

Stormeil, thank you for sharing about the community. It is so sad that today everyone is out for themselves. Sometimes I think we encounter difficult times so that we may extend a helping hand to those who need it.

I know with tropical storms and hurricanes we have that opportunity and it looks like we will again very soon.

Teriodin, I did not think about Scotland's weather warming up compared to many years ago. I don't know what I would do if I opened the door to all that much snow! We get excited about flakes in the air. And we get excited when we can actually wear long sleeves or a sweater.

You mentioned about making sweaters. Were you really serious? How long does it take to complete one?

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Posted: 30-Aug-2008, 02:27 AM
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And if given the choice, would you still live where there is so much snow to deal with each day, ie.. driving to work, missing school days etc.?

Your average snowstorm does a lot less damage (and kills less people) than your average hurricane.
While we may get snow, by the time hurricanes reach us, they've been downgraded to "some rainfall." smile.gif Fay dropped a "whopping" .1" of rain on me yesterday, for example.

Most people don't have to deal with snow "each day." Where I live, we average 9" of snow per month during the Winter months. Of course we've had times when 3 feet or more dropped, but that's not exactly normal.
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I'm in New York now, which is middling-cool most of the winter but not really much below freezing, and then the occasional cold snap with nights in the teens Fahrenheit. I grew up in southern New England,

Stormeil, northern NY is farther north than Southern Maine or New Hampshire... smile.gif
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Posted: 30-Aug-2008, 09:33 AM
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It rarely gets truly cold here in North Carolina but when it does I love it. I thrive in cold weather. I just hate going outside in the summer when it's hot but I go out a lot more in fall and winter. I especially love snow but in recent years whenever we get any kind of winter weather it ends up being mostly freezing rain and some sleet. The freezing rain causes a lot of problems like downed power lines and broken tree limbs.


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In three months now Boreas will stir in the North and blow across the Arctic ice . Bringing at first that hint of chill in the air followed by the bone numbing blast that drop the thermometer to zero and below. Ilove it and can't wait. No Snow just cold,cold,cold. thumbup.gif clap.gif

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I love the cold weather!! I love snow! We don't seem to get the snow here in Connecticut like when I was a kid, we had a cottage a few years ago in New Hampshire, we we got a ton of snow there, I use to love to go snow shoeing.
And we would go to Gunstock,N.H. and go snow tubing, wicked fun that is.


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In 1961 I was working on a Hydro project on the Carrot River in Northern Saskatchewan. On the 28th of Sept. that year the temp was recorded at 29 below F. with the wind chill factor. It was so cold that the ducks migrating south were wearing Parkas and the dozer mechanics were lighting fires under the oil pans of the equipment to get them warmed up enough to start.


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As Skeleman says, North Carolina is usually fairly mild, but it can and has gone to extremes.The all time record low in my area (central NC) is -9* F (-23* C).

As for snow, the all time monster snow that folks my age and a little older talk about was March 1960. It snowed every Wednesday that month. The entire state was shut down. I only went to school three days that month. By the end of March, we had (around Charlotte) almost four feet of total accumulation. Not much for some places, but a bunch for us. A good (bad) ice storm can knock out power for a week, so we need to be prepared for that.

The reason we have so much trouble when there is a little bit of snow on the roads; it's not cost effective for us to keep all the snow clearing equipment they have up north and in the west and mid west. By the way, our all time record high in central NC was 109* F (43* C). And that is with a dew point in the upper eighties, close to ninety. (For a week or more, the lows at night did not go below 90* F.) At the time, I worked as a brick kiln fireman. Temps in my work area got up to 140*. I remember getting off work and walking outside during that heat wave and shivering because I was cold.


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